getHumanTimestamp issues (tracking)
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	saper
	Apr 25 2014, 12:40 PM

Description

Tracking bug to understand MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() should really do.

Additionally this function can be hooked (as it is done by Extension:CLDR) and
it is difficult to predict what should be its expected output.

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Severity: normal
See also: T69959: The "ago" mechanism is untranslatable due to sentence split
Whiteboard: leteam?

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Reference: bz64430

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Status	Assigned	Task
Open	None	T111596 Relative timestamp different between nojs and js mode ("1 day ago", "a day ago")
Open	None	T31235 Make MediaWiki consistent in how it displays time
Open	None	T66430 getHumanTimestamp issues (tracking)
Duplicate	None	T48541 Timestamp is grammatically wrong [regression]
Resolved	None	T47385 MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() unlocalizable
Resolved	None	T57886 CLDR breaks core timestamp tests
Resolved	revi	T56731 For Korean language, "1 second/minute/hour ago" timestamp messages in Echo shown in English (plural >=2 is correct)
Resolved	None	T64607 MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() (aka timestamps in echo) not translated into Chechen
Resolved	Mhutti1	T123544 Document the content of a parameter fed by getHumanTimestamp()
Open	None	T123545 Document expected lego usage of hours-ago, monday-at, yesterday-at and friends
Open	None	T123553 getHumanTimestamp() returns conjoined date + time from sprintfDate() for past years
Open	None	T123556 Use getHumanTimestamp or the ago mechanism consistently
Resolved	Amire80	T141423 Add true dates and times to so called "human readable time stamps" as a tooltip or mouseover.
Stalled	None	T133468 Language::getHumanTimestamp does not do what it says it should do

Event Timeline

• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to High.Nov 22 2014, 3:21 AM

• bzimport added projects: MediaWiki-Internationalization, Tracking-Neverending.

• bzimport set Reference to bz64430.

• bzimport added a subscriber: Unknown Object (MLST).

saper created this task.Apr 25 2014, 12:40 PM

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Nemo_bis added a subscriber: Language-Team.Dec 2 2014, 10:14 AM

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Id1fb340c5f5e6f100e5227d0dfdb4a3001d8fb9e https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116722/
I50e28f601944955ac85e0a847941d7b4824e51e3 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116278/

Jdforrester-WMF closed subtask T48541: Timestamp is grammatically wrong [regression] as Declined.Mar 5 2015, 10:03 PM

Nemo_bis changed the status of subtask T64607: MWTimestamp::getHumanTimestamp() (aka timestamps in echo) not translated into Chechen from Open to Stalled.Apr 19 2015, 11:07 PM

revi closed subtask T56731: For Korean language, "1 second/minute/hour ago" timestamp messages in Echo shown in English (plural >=2 is correct) as Resolved.Nov 15 2015, 9:10 AM

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Nemo_bis mentioned this in T111596: Relative timestamp different between nojs and js mode ("1 day ago", "a day ago").Jan 13 2016, 8:03 PM

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Nemo_bis mentioned this in T69959: The "ago" mechanism is untranslatable due to sentence split.

Nemo_bis mentioned this in T123556: Use getHumanTimestamp or the ago mechanism consistently.Jan 13 2016, 8:07 PM

I am almost opposing the use of so called human readable time stamps like "a day ago" etc..

They are unsuited for listings. Constant format changes inside columns, unchanged list content but changing appearance depending on when you (re-)request a list are just awful for readers.

Maybe, they may be acceptable inside sentences, yet I do not want them almost always.

Possibly, a user setting enabling or disabling them would be a solution unless I can talk you out of them.

Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.Jan 15 2016, 9:58 AM

@Purodha Can you name the places which you think these are not appropriate? Perhaps in separate tasks, because I do not think that is something the i18n people should necessarily be working on.

Nemo_bis added a parent task: T111596: Relative timestamp different between nojs and js mode ("1 day ago", "a day ago").Jan 18 2016, 2:25 PM

Nemo_bis closed subtask T123544: Document the content of a parameter fed by getHumanTimestamp() as Resolved.Jan 22 2016, 10:07 PM

@Purodha: Can you answer the last comment by @Nikerabbit please?

Aklapper renamed this task from getHumanTimestamp issues to getHumanTimestamp issues [tracking].Feb 16 2016, 3:21 PM

Aklapper lowered the priority of this task from High to Medium.

Aklapper removed a subscriber: • wikibugs-l-list.

In T66430#2031492, @Aklapper wrote:

@Purodha: Can you answer the last comment by @Nikerabbit please?

For instance in lists. I wrote so already.

@Purodha That is not specific enough to help anyone even verify the problem. I am asking exact places. I am expecting screenshots, URLs or functions in code.

Nemo_bis renamed this task from getHumanTimestamp issues [tracking] to getHumanTimestamp issues (tracking).Jun 10 2016, 5:52 PM

Quiddity removed a parent task: T4007: [DO NOT USE] Tracking bug [superseded by #Tracking].Jul 14 2016, 3:50 AM

Danny_B added a project: Language-Team.Jul 26 2016, 11:59 PM

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• Purodha added a subtask: T141423: Add true dates and times to so called "human readable time stamps" as a tooltip or mouseover..Jul 27 2016, 7:56 AM

Nemo_bis added a parent task: T31235: Make MediaWiki consistent in how it displays time.Dec 29 2016, 7:52 AM

SamanthaNguyen reopened subtask T48541: Timestamp is grammatically wrong [regression] as Open.Jan 5 2017, 9:52 AM

Nemo_bis added a subtask: T133468: Language::getHumanTimestamp does not do what it says it should do.Jan 8 2017, 9:09 AM

Amire80 closed subtask T141423: Add true dates and times to so called "human readable time stamps" as a tooltip or mouseover. as Resolved.Apr 11 2018, 4:07 PM

Amire80 added a project: I18n.Jun 25 2018, 10:55 AM

Amire80 moved this task from Untriaged to Date and time on the I18n board.

Amire80 removed a project: Language-Team.Jun 25 2018, 11:13 AM