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Lo sapevi?

Sapevi che è possibile utilizzare l'editor visuale in dispositivi mobili?

Tocca l'icona della matita per cominciare a modificare. La pagina probabilmente si aprirà nell'editor di wikitesto.

Vedrai un'altra icona di matita nella toolbar. Tocca quella icona per commutare tra l'editor visuale e quello di codice.

Non dimenticare di salvare le tue modifiche quando hai finito.

Puoi leggere ed aiutare a tradurre la guida utente, che contiene maggiori informazioni su come usare l'editor visuale.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has wrapped up most of their work on the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual diff tool. The team has begun investigating the needs of editors who use mobile devices. Their work board is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are fixing bugs and improving mobile editing.

• The Editing team has published an initial report about mobile editing.
• The Editing team has begun a design study of visual editing on the mobile website. New editors have trouble doing basic tasks on a smartphone, such as adding links to Wikipedia articles. You can read the report.
• The Reading team is working on a separate mobile-based contributions project.
• The 2006 wikitext editor is no longer supported. If you used that toolbar, then you will no longer see any toolbar. You may choose another editing tool in your editing preferences, local gadgets, or beta features.
• The Editing team described the history and status of VisualEditor in this recorded public presentation (starting at 29 minutes, 30 seconds).
• The Language team released a new version of Content Translation (CX2) last month, on International Translation Day. It integrates the visual editor to support templates, tables, and images. It also produces better wikitext when the translated article is published. [1]

• The Editing team wants to improve visual editing on the mobile website. Please read their ideas and tell the team what you think would help editors who use the mobile site.
• The Community Wishlist Survey begins next week.
• Se non stai leggendo questo messaggio nella tua lingua preferita, aiutaci con le traduzioni! Iscriviti alla mailing list dei traduttori o contattaci direttamente. Ti notificheremo quando il prossimo numero sarà disponibile per la traduzione. Grazie!

—Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

1. Section editing
   • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
   • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
2. Loading overlay
   • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

• Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲 Try Edit Cards.
• Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
• Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
• Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use. The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

• Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to the team about how editing can be improved.
• Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team wants your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

• On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
• There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
• Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

• In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
  • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
  • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
  • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
• Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

• Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
• Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
• Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The Editing team hopes to share results in November. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

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The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

• On 31 March 2020, the new rispondi tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
• The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
  • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
  • a rich-text visual editing option, and
  • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

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This issue of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily.

• Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature is called "Strumenti di discussione". The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing @. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster now. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
• New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
• New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
• Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

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Sette anni fa di questo periodo il team di editing ha offerto l'editore visuale alla maggior parte degli editori di Wikipedia Da quel momento, gli editori hanno raggiunto molte pietre miliari:

• Più di 50 milioni di modifiche sono state realizzate usando l'editor visuale sul desktop
• Più di 2 milioni di nuovi articoli sono stati creati con l'editore visuale. Più di 600.000 di questi nuovi articoli sono stati creati nel 2019
• L'editor visuale sta diventando sempre più popolare. La proporzione di tutte le modifiche fatte utilizzando l'editore visuale è incrementato ogni anno dalla sua introduzione.
• Nel 2019, il 35% delle modifiche fatte dai nuovi arrivati (gente registrata con ≤99 modifiche) ha usato l'editor visuale. Questa percentuale incrementa ogni anno.
• Quasi 5 milioni di modifiche effettuate nella versione mobile del sito sono state fatte con l'editor visuale. La maggior parte di queste modifiche sono state fatte da quando il Team di Editing ha iniziato a migliorare il visual editor per smartphone nel 2018.
• Il 17 Novembre 2019, è comparsa la prima modifica da uno spazio esterno ed era stata fatta dall'editore visuale per smartphone. 🚀 👩‍🚀
• Gli editori hanno fatto più di 7 milioni di modifiche nell'editor wikitext durante il 2017, includendone la creazione di 600.000 nuovi articoli. Il Editore wikitext 2017 il Visual Editor creato nella modalità wikitext. Lo puoi scegliere nelle tue preferenze.

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lo strumento Reply è disponibile come Funzione Beta in Wikipedia araba tedesca ed ungherese dal marzo 2020. Le prime analisi mostrano risultati positivi

• Più di 300 editori hanno usato lo strumento "reply tool" in quattro Wikipedia. Loro hanno postato più di 7.400 risposte durante il periodo di studio
• Delle persone che hanno postato un commento usando lo strumento Reply, circa il 70% di loro l'hanno usato più volte. Circa il 60% di loro l'hanno usato in vari giorni.
• I commenti dagli editori di Wikipedia è positiva. Uno di loro ha detto, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة. ("credo che lo strumento possiede un brande impatto; permette di risparmiare tempo per rispondere rispetto alla procedura tradizionale che implicava di muoversi con il mouse al link Edit e di editare la sezione o la pagina, che è generalmente molto lontana dal commento. E l'utente trova il box per editare molto rapidamente usando lo strumento Reply")[2]

La squadra di editori ha rilasciato lo strumento Reply come una funzione beta in altre otto Wikipedia, agli inizi di agosto. Queste wikipedia sono in lingua: cinese, ceca, georgiana, serva, curda sorani, svedese, catalana e coreana. Se desideri usare lo strumento Reply tool sulla tua Wiki, ti preghiamo di dircelo Usertalk:Whatamidoing (WMF)

Lo strumento Reply è ancora in attivo sviluppo Per le richieste dalla Wikipedia tedesca ed altri editori, è possibile personalizzare il riassunto. (La risposta predeterminata del riassunto è "Reply") A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

• The new requirements for custom user signatures began on 6 July 2020. If you try to create a custom signature that does not meet the requirements, you will get an error message.
• Existing custom signatures that do not meet the new requirements will be unaffected temporarily. Eventually, all custom signatures will need to meet the new requirements. You can check your signature and see lists of active editors whose custom signatures need to be corrected. Volunteers have been contacting editors who need to change their custom signatures. If you need to change your custom signature, then please read the help page.

Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. Per essere informato riguardo gli sviluppi di questo nuovo strumento, siete pregati di aggiungere Strumento di nuova discussione la pagina del progetto all'elenco della vostra cronologia

Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussione)

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The Reply tool is available at most Wikipedias.

• The Reply tool has been deployed as an opt-out preference to all editors at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.
• It is also available as a Beta Feature at almost all Wikipedias except for the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias. If it is not available at your wiki, you can request it by following these simple instructions.

Research notes:

• As of January 2021, more than 3,500 editors have used the Reply tool to post about 70,000 comments.
• We have preliminary data from the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedia on the Reply tool. Junior Contributors who use the Reply tool are more likely to publish the comments they start writing than those who use full-page wikitext editing.[3]
• The Editing and Parsing teams have significantly reduced the number of edits that affect other parts of the page. About 0.3% of edits did this during the last month.[4] Some of the remaining changes are automatic corrections for Special:LintErrors.
• A large A/B test will start soon.[5] This is part of the process to offer the Reply tool to everyone. During this test, half of all editors at 24 Wikipedias will have the Reply tool automatically enabled, and half will not. You can still turn it on or off for your own account in Special:Preferences.

The new tool for starting new discussions (new sections) will join the Discussion tools in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures at the end of January. You can try the tool for yourself.[6] You can leave feedback in this thread or on the talk page.

During Talk pages consultation 2019, editors said that it should be easier to know about new activity in conversations they are interested in. The Notifications project is just beginning. What would help you become aware of new comments? What's working with the current system? Which pages at your wiki should the team look at? Please post your advice at notifications-talk.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

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All'inizio dell'anno, il gruppo di lavoro del modulo di editazione svolto una ricerca sullo Modulo Rispondi. Il principale obiettivo era determinare se il modulo Rispondi aiutava i nuovi editori a comunicarsi in wiki. Il secondo obiettivo era osservare se i commenti fatti dai nuovi editori utilizzando l'utensile necessitavano di risposta inmodo più frequente che quelli fatti con l'editore di pagine di wikitexto.

I risultati base sono stati

• I nuovi nuovi che avevano accesso automatico ("per default") al modulo Rispondere erano più inclini a pubblicare un commento in una pagina di discussione.
• I commenti pubblicati dagi nuovi editori usando il mosulo Rispondere sono stati anche meno necessitati ad avere risposta che quelli che fatti mediante l'edizione di pagina.

Questi risultati confermano al gruppo di lavoro Edizione che il modulo è utile.

Guardando avanti

Il gruppo di lavoro sta operando per mettere il modulo Rispondere alla portata di tutti come una preferenza opzionale nei prossimi mesi. Questo già è una realtà nelle Wikipedias araba, ceca e ungherese.

Il prossimo passo è risolvere una sfida tecnica. Dopo, distribuiranno il modulo Rispondere primo a le Wikipedias che hanno partecipato nello studio. Dopo, lo implementeranno a tappe successive alle altre Wikipedias e a tutte le wikis ospitate sui server di WWF.

Puoi attivare "Strumenti di discussione" in Caratteristiche Sperimentali. Una volta attivato il modulo Rispondere, puoi cambiare le tue preferenze in qualsiasi momento in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussione)