Talk:Haikyu!!

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. There is consensus to move to a title supported by reliable sources. bd2412 T 14:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

• Haikyū!! → Haikyu!!
• List of Haikyū!! characters → List of Haikyu!! characters
• List of Haikyū!! chapters → List of Haikyu!! chapters
• List of Haikyū!! episodes → List of Haikyu!! episodes

– The official English title of this series used by all official English licensors (Crunchyroll for the anime, Viz Media for the manga) is "Haikyu!!" (no macron), not "Haikyū!!" Jeffinitelyjeff (talk) 05:05, 18 August 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 23:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

• Oppose per page creator. 排球 ("volleyball") is pronounced with a long u; so it won't hurt anyone to pronounce it correctly. This is primarily an article about a Japanese comic, if it is marketed overseas by people who don't know what the title means or how to pronounce it, that shouldn't concern us. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
• Support per MOS:A&M, which states "Use the most commonly known English titles for article names", which is based on WP:COMMONNAME. This applies to the use of macrons in titles as well. "Haikyu!!" is the official English title and the one in which reliable English-language sources will refer to the series as. It is not Wikipedia's place to enforce a naming standard that is not used by reliable English-language sources. —Farix (t | c) 11:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
• Support if the non-macron spelling is the one used by reliable sources we should follow suit.--76.65.42.75 (talk) 16:18, 20 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

But it isn't. e.g. here's a reliable English source which spells the long ū correctly. Haikyu with a short u would mean something else. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:23, 24 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Your source is from 2014. The English dub was announced in July 2017, making 2014 sources fairly irrelevant to the discussion.  ONR  (talk)  01:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

• Oppose: per In ictu oculi. This is the English Wikipedia but if the correct Japanese is with the long u then that should be the title. DrStrauss talk 09:18, 24 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
• Support move. The common English title lacks the macron, and moving the pages makes it easier to link from other articles, because many editors do not know how to type the macron. It doesn't matter that the romaji for the title includes the macron, because that is not how the series is known in English, either commonly or officially.  ONR  (talk)  01:38, 26 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
• Oppose: WP:MOS-JA. --Garam (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I beieve that guideline actually supports the move since the section regarding medis states Follow the general guidelines (above) to determine common usage. You should generally honor the current anglicization used officially by that party as it will often be the form in common usage in English-language reliable sources. That indicates to be that it supports using the non macron version since most English sources use it.--67.68.21.146 (talk) 01:28, 7 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

• Support per Farix (t | c). Wikipedia is the first place I saw use the macron; didn't know it had one before. Swordman97 ^{talk to me} 07:25, 4 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
• Support per nom and WP:COMMONNAME. If English language reliable sources don't include a macron, then neither should we.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:51, 13 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.