Talk:East Texas

I'm moving the following list here because its presence in the main article clutters the page. I intend to eventually most of this information into the main text. -JCarriker 07:38, 12 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

I live here and there is nothing notable about the crime in East Texas as a whole region. There were zero references validating the statements the person wrote in the article. Most of this country has a "meth" problem and East Texas isn't special in that. There was a movie done a few years ago that highlighted meth use and it took place in East Texas but they could have used a different location and it would not have mattered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americandude2011 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

The cultural definition of East Texas in this article is shaky at best. Notably, the Handbook of Texas Online defines East Texas strictly by ecological and geographical terms. While many of the statements on population makeup (for example, number of minorities or being part of the 'Bible Belt') may be true, none of it is cited or referenced. Also, the article questions whether or not Houston is 'really' part of East Texas simply because it is more ethnically diverse. I vote for a complete reversion or edit of this page to a version that defines 'East Texas' in geographical and ecological terms only (with references), until the rest of the definition can be justified.Deatonjr 19:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

• I agree. The culture section is not really encyclopedia style. I understand the message in it, but it isn't written very well. --黒雲 user:Qaddosh 04:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
• You're right about Houston. However, it's still more "East" Texas than Bryan/College Station. Bryan/CS is basically the entrance to Central Texas, and it has the rolling prairies that make Central Texas. How can Bryan/CS be considered East Texas, when Palestine isn't even "officially" considered part of the Piney Woods, and it's covered with pines! Another good thing to add would be colleges and universities in East Texas. flutequeen84 23:20, 10 April 2007

Having grown up, lived and worked all over the the Houston metro, as well as a 6 yr college & work stint in Bryan/CS, here's what I have observed. Bryan/CS terrain is most similar to metro Houston's west half if you must compare it to something. BCS is in the flat Brazos valley, after all. Now travel to the southern and coastal parts of the Houston metro and you'll find the same oak and mesquite as well as palmetto, yaupon, oleander and the occasional backyard citrus. Or, basically what you'd find on the south Texas coast, where I was born. The remaining 25% of the Houston area on the north and east sides have more in common with "East Texas."

As far as climate is concerned, Houston is definitely part of East Texas. Although I must say 35"+ of rain per year is a rather abitrary number the Handbook chose, as Austin and San Antonio are still inside the same Koppen climate class as "East Texas."

http://www.tufts.edu/med/informid/images/seasonality/article1-Koppen_climate-500.gif

On another note, if "Shreveport, Louisiana is considered the "Gateway of East Texas" then at the very least, the Houston metro area counties need to be white, not striped, or this statement needs to be taken away.stonetlee 15:45, 08 August 2007

• It depends on what the point of this section is. If it is the encyclopedia style definition, then I agree with what you have said - this needs a rewrite. But if this is a perspective of human nature based on culture, upbringing, etc. relative to a person's geography, then deep East Texas is definitely a place that should be written on by itself without including of Houston or Tyler. And you're right on about Houston not being part of East Texas based on ethnicity. It's about living in the 4th largest U.S. metro versus towns where everything is closed by 9pm, and going out to eat means Dairy Queen. 76.184.172.48 21:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC) original Lufkinite & SFA'er; 11 April 2007Reply

• Harris - 1729 mile² (4478 km²)
• Liberty - 1160 mile² (3004 km²)

===In population=== (2000 Census)

• Harris - 3,400,578
• Fort Bend County - 354,452
• Montgomery - 293,768
• Jefferson - 252,051

• Baytown
• Beaumont
• Bryan
• College Station
• Conroe
• Galveston
• Houston
• Huntsville
• Longview
• Lufkin
• Marshall
• Nacogdoches
• Orange
• Paris
• Palestine
• Pasadena
• Port Arthur
• Sugar Land
• Texarkana
• Texas City
• Tyler

• Anahuac
• Carthage
• Deer Park (Battle of San Jacinto site)
• Freeport
• Henderson
• Jacksonville
• Jasper
• Jefferson
• Karnack
• Kilgore
• Lumberton
• Mt. Pleasant
• New London
• San Augustine
• Sulphur Springs

Hey, I noticed that the author omitted Liberty County from the list of Deep East Texas counties in the article,but included it in the "largest county" analysis. Just thought I'd drop a line in case the author did it by mistake.

Thanks for the article--DJ 67.162.202.190 (talk) 20:03, 9 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

B/CS is widely considered to be located in the Central Texas region of Texas, not East Texas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.195.113.244 (talk) 05:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

An IP has recently been pushing in changes to the article claiming [1] that East Texas is known as Dixie, and contains the Texas Triangle. "Dixie" is a nickname for the entire American South, and the Texas Triangle contains Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio, none of which are in the common definitions of East Texas. Lacking sourcing, I think these should be reverted. Dayewalker (talk) 16:35, 28 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

The article claims a contrast between East Texas and West "in which people of German and Hispanic heritage predominate." This would be true of Central Texas, where many Germans (and Czechs) settled, and of course anything south of San Antonio, but West Texas settlement was relatively late and primarily secondary migration. While there are more Hispanics, say, in Abilene or Midland-Odessa than there are in Tyler or Livingston, it is inaccurate to claim that Germans were the strongest group along the old Texas and Pacific (now IH 20) corridor. --Janko (talk) 17:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

According to the Federal Court districts, the Eastern District of Texas includes Denton and Collin counties. I'm not sure what that affects other than the courts, but it shouldn't be ignored. People from Plano and Richardson go to court in Sherman, but Sherman's headquarters is in Tyler. And that certainly has cultural and economic ramifications that shouldn't be ignored by the article, but it also probably mirrors other federal designations for other federal services that would be interesting to discuss if anyone is willing to put in some research and write it in to the article. See this map from uscourts.gov. Please reply to discuss.--Mrcolj (talk) 18:18, 3 March 2020 (UTC)Reply