Talk:Joseph Joffre

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A great deal of information on Joffre can be found in the book The Guns of August. Also, that book is extremely well sourced (in contrast to the article about it). I don't happen to have a copy with me, but I'll be able to retrieve it soon. Tenebrous 06:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this image mirrored? These awards should be worn on the left chest.--WooteleF (talk) 20:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In 1920 Joffre presided over the Jocs Florals in Barcelona, a Catalan literary certamen. — What is meant by Certamen? Is it Certamen (quiz bowl)? The word is not in general English usage, and is not in Webster's. Sca (talk) 17:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if it is named after him or not, but clearly if it is, it ought to be referced here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.78.194.182 (talk) 19:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In Toledo, Ohio there is a Joffre Avenue located 41 deg. 39' N, 83 deg. 35' W. Musicwriter (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously? That's written in the article?Landroo (talk) 04:43, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Given that a lot of people died from it (more than from the war iirc), it's by no means irrelevant. From memory Lloyd George was seriously ill in the autumn of 1918 as well. Lots of biographies of Queen Elizabeth I mention that she caught smallpox and recovered, although one of her ladies caught it off her and was scarred for life. Joffre lost weight in his old age - he looked noticeably thinner when he turned up to Sir John French's funeral in the mid-1920s - which may have been in part a result of surviving serious illness.Paulturtle (talk) 14:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An ironic discussion, in view of world events over the last two years, and proof, if proof were needed, that "I don't see why that's important and it ought to be deleted" is often just lack of knowledge by the person involved.Paulturtle (talk) 03:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is listed in his info box yet there is no mention of this in the article, let alone any link to data supporting this title as anything but some Wikipedian's fantasy.William (The Bill) Blackstone (talk) 12:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's an informal title AFAIK. It was used of the Commander-in-Chief designate before the war, again when Joffre was given responsibility for other fronts at the end of 1915, and again of Foch as Supreme Allied Commander in 1918. I've never come across a strict definition, but I do recall an old interview of Monty's in which he said that the French loved to distinguish between a bon General ordinaire and a grand chef. But then, if we're being pedantic, "Marshal of France" is not a rank but a political honour, which like a British peerage is retained even if the holder is imprisoned in disgrace (hence Petain was a Marshal until the day he died); the highest French rank at the time was General de Division.Paulturtle (talk) 21:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK CLC, you want nothing changed. Curious, Joffre wrote (as did Langel de Cary, as did a few others) a biography. Two volumes, I believe. Did any of these generals later have misgivings, maybe even nightmares, about the slaughters that they instigated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.81.156.18 (talk) 17:48, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]