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A fact from Curtis Aiken appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 May 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Curtis Aiken set the New York State Public High School Athletic Association single-season boys' basketball scoring record?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Curtis Aiken.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 03:01, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Curtis Aiken led the West to victory over New York City in Empire State Games scholastic basketball? Source: https://www.proquest.com/docview/424399471
- ALT1: ... that Curtis Aiken set the New York State Public High School Athletic Association single-season boys basketball scoring record? Source: https://infoweb-newsbank-com.chipublib.idm.oclc.org/apps/news/document-view?p=NewsBank&t=&sort=YMD_date%3AA&maxresults=20&f=advanced&val-base-0=%22Curtis%20Aiken%22%20924&fld-base-0=alltext&docref=news/0EB194F41B1386AB
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Charles Sorby
- Comment: 4th of 10 QPQs for this review

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 18:57, 1 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Curtis Aiken; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I much prefer ALT1 to ALT0 here, though both check out (used newspapers.com on the second one), because ALT0 is less approachable to non-sports readers. Why are there all the (disputed) in text, though? I'd like an explanation before I approve. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Disputed means that the numbers continue to be cited in WP:RS but are not shown at nysphsaa.org. There is a whole paragraph in the text devoted to this subject.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Sammi Brie: how's this going? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:28, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - Is there a better way to handle this issue?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - My apologies — I must have missed this ping while busy with other things. Tony's explanation makes sense. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:08, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        User:Sammi Brie, Hey, I was thinking maybe I should handle all the disputed stuff with notes. Thoughts?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:23, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        @TonyTheTiger: A footnote on first use of "disputed" would be incredibly helpful to readers. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        User:Lightburst, can you unpromote this for a few days, I am travelling and having some flight issues (already delayed 22 hours at BCN). Give me about 72 hours.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        User:Lightburst, you can restore this nomination.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Non-RS details

Curtis E. Aiken born 07/23/1964, which seems wrong because to be eligible for the 1982 Scholastic games, I thought you had to be 17 or under based on an August 1982 date.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Search result

This snippet appears in a search result "Bennett team made it to the state Class B championship game with Curtis......Aiken, fellow Yale Cup legends Vory Billups and Junie Hemphill took the..." I assume this was a senior class accomplishment. This is from The Buffalo News Feb 18, 2005, page B1, "THE GREATEST DEBATE ; NIAGARA FALLS' TALENT IS UNQUESTIONED, BUT IS IT THE BEST LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL TEAM EVER?: [FINAL Edition]" Wilson, Allen TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:48, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

HOF facts I would like to source

https://bennettsportshalloffame.org/inductee/curtis-aiken/

The New York State Sportswriters’ Association named Curt Aiken Co-Player of the Year in New York State in 1983.
From the team contribution standpoint, Curt led Bennett to The Buffalo News #1 small school ranking after both the ’82 and ’83 basketball seasons. Bennett participated in the state NY SPHSAA basketball tournament both years, capturing the state public school class “B” championship at Glens Falls, NY in 1983.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 05:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another one! I will (ideally) be able to review this within one week. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 05:11, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cool I am happy now to pass this wonderful article for GA status. Congrats! ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 23:01, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check

Earwig says good to go.

Prose

In the lead, can "record for a few years" be given a more specific time frame?
- O.K. although I do not do this for any of his college records.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, I think it looks more informative for the lead section. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 23:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In the first efn note, give a short description of what the NYPHSAA is since it as no wiki entry. This will help provide some context for readers as to how this is source authoritative on records.
- I just linked it.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:49, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In § High school, recommend opening with his full name. Also:
- OK.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:51, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Should "As a youth" not end in a comma?
- Yes-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:52, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"in Buffalo" – wikilink.
- OK-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:54, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"West New York team" – does this have an article?
- No. The hope is that the reader learns from the Empire State Games link.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:58, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"was a NYPHSAA record" – here too, like the efn note.
- ??????N-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:57, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oh I see! You misspelled NYSPHSAA as NYPHSAA so when I searched it on Wikipedia I did not find any entry for it. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 23:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"career total to 2,162 (disputed)" – why is this disputed?
- This is the same content described in EFN[a]. Can I use that EFN twice in the same article?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:02, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes! @TonyTheTiger: For future reference, I added {{efn|name="Dispute"| to the first efn note and typed {{efn|name="Dispute"}} to repeat it. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 23:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"It was only the second time" – just "It was the second time" would suffice.
- OK-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"(McDonald-sponsored)" – no need for parentheses, and it should be "McDonald's-sponsored".
- thx-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:44, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"and he was not announced within 5 days of the hiring announcement of Brown" is an awkward sentence.
- Is it OK now?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yep—looks good. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 23:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"in field goal percentage" – should be "in field goal percentage with". Also:
- Thx.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:07, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Change 56.9% to 56.9 percent per MOS:%.
- OK-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"60%" – 60 percent.
- OK-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:15, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink MVP.
- Done-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:17, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How about "and Louisiana–Lafayette, and was joined on the tournament team" for improved flow?
- That would be ungrammatical. You would have to retain the he to make the comma appropriate to set off an independent clause, but then we would essentially be back where we started.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:23, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"games open division, Aikens and" – Aikens?
- Is this better?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, nice work! ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 23:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"39.3%" – percent.
- Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:27, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would split the third sentence in § Career to "Panther broadcast in 2010. When Groat became unable …" otherwise it reads jaggedly.
- Thx.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:30, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Refs

Passes spotcheck on refs 3, 18, 20, 34, 40 and 57.

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