Talk:Billy "Crash" Craddock

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On 14 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Billy Craddock to Billy "Crash" Craddock. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Billy asked me to emcee a show in Lake Charles, La. He headlined over Dolly Parton and Johnny Rodriquez. Billy had a stage presence that was just palpable! The crowds responded to Rub It In, and Sweet Magnolia Blossoms, and it was every way as Elvis' fans reacted. He is a gentleman, kind and even allowed me to interview him in his Hotel room before the show. I was a DJ from the promoting radio station. I shall never forget the electricity of this man, and his obvious joy of being on stage with a crowd that loved every minute of his show! (RGTrumps)

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Nice work! --CutOffTies (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hanging drywall?

What on earth does that mean? Is it something to do with the building trade? 220.240.82.127 (talk) 06:54, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Drywall, sheetrock,plasterboard, same thing to different regions. 2601:CF:1:3B0:F474:95A7:B5:6792 (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 November 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved to Billy "Crash" Craddock. Supporters have good arguments citing WP:NICKNAME. If their is normally consensus against using a nickname in this fashion, it is not present in this RM. (non-admin closure) cyberdog958^Talk 19:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Craddock → Billy "Crash" Craddock – This seems to be a case like "Weird Al" Yankovic where the usage of quotes is almost overwhelmingly preferred. He's listed as Billy "Crash" Craddock on AllMusic, iTunes Store, Spotify, and almost every source I could possibly find, with almost no usage to the contrary. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support virtually all refs within article support using "Crash".--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 23:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Theparties (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I always oppose the use of nicknames in quotes like this. Either Billy Craddock or Crash Craddock, but not a mixture of both. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Necrothesp: WP:NICKNAME says avoid such a stylization unless it is found in the name in the overwhelming majority of independent reliable sources, and I have yet to find a single source referring to the singer as anything other than Billy "Crash" Craddock. I haven't found a single source calling him just "Billy Craddock" or "Crash Craddock". Literally 100% of the sources render his name Billy "Crash" Craddock. Do you also oppose "Weird Al" Yankovic as an article name? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, frankly. It should be Weird Al Yankovic without the quotes. They're completely unnecessary. But this is clearly a different situation anyway. He's known as Weird Al; Craddock isn't known as Billy Crash. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is he "not known" as Billy "Crash" Craddock when literally 100% of the sources out there support that name in that fashion? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please reread what I said! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You said "you" oppose nicknames for personal reasons and that he's "not known" as "Billy 'Crash' Craddock". I said literally 100% of sources call him that, and failed to find a source calling him anything else. What is your proof that he's not known that way? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I didn't say either of those things. Please read comments fully before you allege people have written things that they have not written. I said he wasn't known as Billy Crash (not Billy 'Crash' Craddock), to refute your inaccurate comparison with Weird Al Yakovic. I do not oppose the use of nicknames in this way "for personal reasons". I oppose them because RMs almost always oppose them and I believe in consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Necrothesp: You're still dodging the question of "how is he not known" as Billy "Crash" Craddock? By what standards is he "not known" by anything else? What evidence do you have? Also, opposing them per precedent is ridiculous when you're literally the only opposer here and everyone else is pushing for support. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ping @Caldorwards4:, @Martin4647:, @Sammi Brie: Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 23:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I get 85 results in ProQuest for "Billy Craddock", some of them for other people (particularly obituaries), and 1,999 for "Billy Crash Craddock". Support. (I was unaware of this RM until this ping) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Billy "Crash" Craddock appears to be the more common name as used on his album covers and Billboard chart history. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 07:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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