User talk:Nbahn

Firstly welcome to Wikipedia since no has yet wrote on your talk page! Secondly per your comments, I've edited your additions slightly, in line with style and reference format. Also I wikilinked Richard Stengel so it goes straight to the controversy section on his page. If you have make any other edits and want help or a second opinion then I'm always happy to help. Best regards, LordHarris (talk) 17:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a look at your edits on the Priscila P page, they seem fine in terms of contents but then I'm no ultra liberal! The links/references do need work though. Also you can add double brackets to directly wikilink an internal wikipedia article for future reference, take a look at Help:Link and Wikipedia:Citing sources. Also Help:Contents is a good place to find out more about how to edit a page. The Wikipedia:Help desk can also be a great source of additional input and help. Best regards, LordHarris 16:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Nbahn, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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If this is not controversial: [1] then I don't know what is such. Any libelous statements under WP:BLP, whether on an article page or a talk page, must be tagged or removed immediately. You are entitled to your opinion, and of course you have more latitude on a talk page, but this is, after all, an encyclopedia, not a blog. Bearian 14:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I posted a comment on WP:AN, without naming you, for advice on what to do. Thank you for getting back to me. I don't want to scare you away. See the essays at WP:AGF and WP:BITE. Bearian 16:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nbahn! I've replied to your original post on Talk:Priscilla Painton. Your comments will be gratefully received there. ➔ REDVEЯS likes kittens... and you 20:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend the Gribbin biography (last of the references in his article), as well as The Complete Richard Feynman, which is a compilation of Surely, You Must Be Joking, Mr. Feynman and What do you care what other people say. Good-day. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 20:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not enough that something is in the news to be using the several templates related to {{current}} which include the "-section" and "-related" templates. They are PRIMARILY a notice to editors that many (as in a hundred or more) are editing the page, and if only a few edits a day are occring on the article or page, the template/tags are subject to removal.
If the aim is to get on the "current events" page of wikipedia, then take a look at Wikipedia:How the Current events page works]].
The edit history on the removal of the tag states that the policy on use of the several tags is located at: Template:Current#Guidelines.
The alternative, that many hundreds of thousands of articles have this non-informative template appearing on them is not acceptable, and pointless. Every article relies on some other source, often recent, and often not-so-recent. For example, one article constantly in the news George W. Bush never has this tag on it.
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's important that Time screwed the pooch on this one: it's not important to attack the particular staff members responsible, unless it becomes clear they were acting against the wishes of the magazine -- which definitely does not seem to be the case.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 05:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If there were an article written specifically about this incident, Hamsher's call would be relevant: it's definitely not relevant to an article on Time in general, and probably not to Klein either.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 05:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not questioning that the call occurred, or implying that it didn't happen as reported: I'm just saying I don't think it's in the top N most important things about these people.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 06:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My concerns were similar to that expressed above, namely that the incident seemed out of proportion to its significance to Glenn Greenwald's career and to Joe Klein's especially. The citation issue is just a minor style point, as I do understand it is not Wiki style to refer to other Wiki articles in quite that way. I think you handled that well but my WEIGHT concern remains.--Samiharris (talk) 11:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've read through the materials cited and I am more concerned than ever by the WP:WEIGHT issue here. I see that identical materials were posted in two articles so have amended my comments and also acted to alleviate this serious BLP issue. It is too large for Greenwald too, but in Klein it presents serious BLP concerns, so have reduced significantly the size of the material added there. BLP, as you know, requires that we bend over backwards to do no harm to subjects of biographies, and the "2007 controversy" seems far out of proportion to Klein's career.--Samiharris (talk) 15:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't reinstate the possibly BLP-violating language until a second opinion or more has been obtained from the BLP noticeboard. Really, there is no rush here. Let's wait for some more views. The rule is "do no harm" and it is unseemly to push language accusing someone of professional incompetence unless there is proper sourcing under Wikipedia rules.--Samiharris (talk) 20:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, there will be a reply on the BLP noticeboard. It sometimes takes a while because of the backlog. No hurry. It is always best to be cautious on BLPs, and policy requires such caution.--Samiharris (talk) 02:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that Klein "did" admit error after all, according to a Howard Kurtz article quoted on BLP Noticeboard or elsewhere. So I am withdrawing my objection. See? Waiting a bit wasn't so bad, and the process improved the artice.--Samiharris (talk) 19:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at the pages if I have time later tonight. Re. cold fusion: I'm afraid that enthusiasts have been running over the article here, but the basic summation is that cold fusion is impossible, if by cold fusion you mean fusion in the absence of high-energy particles (which is what the enthusiasts would like to be true). With a small source of high-energy deuterons and a little tritium, you can make a fusion source a few cm long that does release a very little energy - but it all comes out in neutrons. These designs, derived from atomic bomb triggers, are 'cold fusion' in the sense that the bulk of the device is not at high temperature, but there are a lot of high-energy particles flying around. Michaelbusch (talk) 06:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually rather surprised you sought my opinion on this: I do not have much experience editing political articles on Wikipedia, particularly those with a history of controversy. Now, looking over the articles, I don't see anything terribly bad, and I don't see anything too contentious on the talk pages. I may have distorted standards, given some of the editing disputes I've been involved in. Michaelbusch (talk) 07:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do try to keep a cool head. I'm afraid that is the only advice I can give. Michaelbusch (talk) 07:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I'm a little busy right now. I might not get to looking these over for another day. Just so you know I'm not ignoring the situation. Cheers, Pigman☿ 19:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on an article (see my user page) and I need to know if I have provided the proper documentation for an image that I want to use. Thanks a lot!

Can you pls provide the image link itself? †Bloodpack† 22:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How's this?<br. />

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabu-chan/167934737/

I see, but do you own that image? If you want to use that image on the article youre working on, first you have to upload it here in wikipedia. Afterwhich, make sure you tag the image with the appropriate copyright info. When youre set, you can now add the image to your article. Hope this helps. Happy wikiying! †Bloodpack† 22:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I realize you are trying in good faith to find some method of bringing certain content into the encyclopedia, but I do not believe that turning your user page into a POV fork of Joe Klein is an appropriate use of the space. It really belongs in a journalism or political publication.--Samiharris (talk) 18:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Samiharris is probably correct. I might suggest a solution which serves everyone: a subject-matter-specific sandbox which allows user to collect worthy sources and quotes, but keeps them off the user front page. I'm taking the liberty of creating such a page and copying the material over: User:Nbahn/Joe Klein sandbox. If this action is inappropriate or unwanted, please say so here, and I'll request speedy deletion. BusterD (talk) 22:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use the links I added above. I forgot to add: good first month! You are contributing in a good-faith, meaningful way on a very controversial subject, yet you are keeping pretty cool throughout. Try editing outside your interest area; you'll find it makes you a better editor in your area of focus. Do remember to use edit summaries; they help other editors to follow your intention. Again, nice work. BusterD (talk) 23:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you wish, you can now delete the content-specific material from your user page. I made no edits to the material I copied and pasted. BusterD (talk) 23:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that lovely? Now you can use your user page to say something nice about the kind of user you've become. Mine is a poor example and rarely updated. Look at Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy and related articles. IMHO, User:Yellowdesk has created a model for how to create a more encyclopedia-looking article out of what began as a series of current events. Yellowdesk's userpage is very functional too. Here's an example of a current event which was developed into a featured article: Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner. Anyway, love your work. Edit boldly, but be prepared for worse treatment than you've seen. And remember to be genuinely nice, especially in the face of personal attack. BusterD (talk) 23:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lamentably, the material on the user page seems to have been transplanted as an article, Joe Klein's 21st November 2007 Time magazine column, a blatant POV fork now justifiably nominated for deletion. This is an even worse use of the material than the user page. Rather than waste your time using this voluminous material where it does not belong, you really should work on getting it into a proper political or journalistic magazine.--Samiharris (talk) 16:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has nominated Joe Klein's 21st November 2007 Time magazine column, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Klein's 21st November 2007 Time magazine column and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 04:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<br. /> is not an HTML tag. <br /> or <br> is. Actually, these line breaks were not needed at all because paragraphs are automatically made whenever there is a blank line.

Like this. I've removed them to show that there is no difference (except for some of the quotations, where there were no blank lines around the ellipses). –Pomte 01:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Fred Bauder (talk) 03:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have answered your question on my talk page.Unschool (talk) 23:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good for you. You survived. In fact, User:Nbahn is unchanged in any way. You didn't throw a tantrum, or threaten to leave. You asked somebody for assistance and guidance. You haven't even really gotten testy with anybody. You are now a wiser and more careful editor. You've engaged in a meaningful way with several vastly experienced editors, and stood your own. Now what?

• Keep maintaining the pages you now watch. If your work is important to you, defend it against vandalism.
• Read other folks' articles. Find out what does work. Read some recent featured articles.
• Try editing in pagespace that relates to the subject matter you've covered. Expand your watchlist.
• Trim the work on your user subpage until it looks like an encyclopedia article, then repost it under a better name, or more likely as a section under another more embracing page name (Stengel, Klein, Painton). Don't get in a hurry on this. The more distance you put between now and then, the better perspective you'll have on exactly what inside your accumulation is encyclopedic.

But don't give up. And don't forget you still have this important work to do. All this is just one user's opinion, I'll grant, but I (and now others) have seen you bring something to the wikitable. Henceforth, I'll refrain from offering unsolicited advice, because I'm satisfied you can handle yourself without any additional help. If you ever do need help, remember to ask somebody. I'm not going anywhere. BusterD (talk) 13:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do be aware of this helpful article. BusterD (talk) 13:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And the work you've done (all perfectly preserved in your user sub space) is really very detailed, as many users have commented. The point the AfD really boiled down was encyclopedic tone and undue weight. If you feel you must convey this material immediately, then you should post to a group blog (Like Kos or DU), a watchdog (like Media Matters) or create your own blog. If you honestly believe this belongs on the pedia, then you'll have to earn the privilege (with one strike against you: the successful afd). Remember that a successful article isn't just a collection of minutia. A good article explains itself well, has a solid basis in notability, and stands the test of 1000 paper cuts (the edits of others). As is, you're not there. Again, read articles based on events. There may be a wikiproject for current events. I know there's a portal. You'll see there's a method which works. BusterD (talk) 13:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All this made me remember a talk I had with a professor in my last year of college. I had done a very technical and detailed piece on a very interesting historical figure, but the work was way too long and didn't explain itself well. Discussion got heated, this guy who occupied an endowed chair at a major university is screaming at me: "But why is it important? Why should anybody bother reading it?" My replies were rapid and pathetic: But he did this, and he did that, and he did the other thing. "But why should I care about any of that?" the professor begged. He made me feel bad for not making a better case. And this was like that for you. The AfD was screaming: "But how does all this worthy detail make the whole thing an encyclopedia article?" Minutia is important, but explaining the entire subject and giving perspective and proper weight is far more important than a listing of links from which the reader could decode the very points you're trying valiantly to make. BusterD (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget that kindness costs you very little. BusterD (talk) 14:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Re: screaming - I thought it strange at the time, but the guy was at wit's end trying to get me to understand the entire purpose of the study of history, he could see I was right at the edge of making that discovery, and he hoped his extreme passion might get me there. It did. Years later. Outcome: He's the only one of my former professors I stay in touch with, consider a friend. The story I was trying to tell then has become my life's avocation. Might end up with a PhD over it.
• Re: your first broken heart/article for deletion - It heals. You get passionate about other things or you make this passion stick. When you can look back at a lengthy writing career, you'll be happy you got this first one out of the way. Hey, sometimes the story comes right back at you: imagine how much fun this becomes if these players are again engaged in the sort of mucking with history you've detailed. Be ready. Don't stop gathering info. BusterD (talk) 14:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry it took me so long to formulate what is going to seem a very basic and simple solution to your desire to say something significant on the subject of Joe Klein. If I understand your premise, the subject misled the public. The subject is a Living Person, so you can't just write what you want. You must take a neutral stance and approach the subject as an encyclopedian. So I'd say: Let's make Joe Klein a featured article. Let that settle in your mind a bit before you take ANY action. Let's not bash the guy. That wouldn't be a good idea anyway. Exposing the guy through his own actions and writing? That's fair game, so long as the rules are obeyed. And since Wikipedia is not a tabloid, if you were actually successful in getting Klein's page to FA, it would be a mighty and perhaps worthy achievement to say something profound during this year's insubstantial insider political punditry. You'd find it difficult and contentious, but you'd sleep well at night. That's my advice. And I'd help. I suspect you'd find a few others already working in the content area. BusterD (talk) 13:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Watch what's going on at Mike Lupica. The issue is very similar to the issue with Stengel/Klein. Stay out of it, but watch what happens at the page. BusterD (talk) 13:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good links here. BusterD (talk) 05:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see you're back. Make sure to edit at your own pace. Trust yourself. Allow your gumption to build up. Anyway, nice to see your timestamp today. BusterD (talk) 14:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind welcome! Wutzit2ya (talk) 00:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hope your health improves. --Abd (talk) 12:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your comment at Template_talk:User_committed_identity#Easy_how_to. Many people have asked for similar help. Please try my attempt at such simple instructions here. Hope they help. Regards, Unimaginative Username (talk) 06:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not Dave Zirin -- Why the hell do you think I am?Editor437 (talk) 00:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The user has been blocked repeatedly and has constantly created sockpuppets. You can look at

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/SecretChiefs3 and the history of the Juan Cole talk page where the content was originally created, and constantly added by User:Thamarih, User:SecretChiefs3, User:MargBarBahaim, User:BahaimITCommitteeKissMyAss, User:BahaimItCommitteeKissMyAssAgain, all who are sockpuppets, and who were blocked.

Admins including User:Luna Santin and User:Thumperward have constantly reverted the blocked user, and have stated that this should continue; see here. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 14:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is User:124.179.173.65. Please keep an eye on the Juan Cole discussion page. Attempts to revert this page are vandalism and based solely on erasing embarrassing information regarding the political enemies of an organization on whose interests said reverting parties are acting on behalf. User Jeff3000 and User: MARussellPESE (and those other parties reverting an entire discussion page) are acting as an interested bloc. I draw your attention to the following as proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Frederick_Glaysher

More can be furnished from elsewhere on wikipedia.

Thank you. User:124.179.173.65.

Please don't do that again. The useful parts of this page are in the archives; the rest is ranting from a blocked and perennially disruptive puppetmaster. I've reverted and requested semiprotection for the page. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 11:23, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I humbly beg your pardon.

----NBahn (talk) 04:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the talk page. I have been blocked indefinately. 86.45.222.9 (talk) 13:58, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're growing to be the kind of user I'm very proud to edit with. Best of holidays. BusterD public (talk) 06:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two replies have been made at the help desk. ZooFari 20:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know of any administrators who would be willing to block this address for up to five days? Whomever this is has entirely too much time on his/her hands. --NBahn (talk) 20:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BusterD"

Looks like someone got them. School ips can be bad. Hope you and yours are well. All the best. BusterD (talk) 20:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you continue to sling big elbows and telegraph your punches (wikipedia is the one place I find where both tendencies are rewarded), it looks like you'll do fine. Nice work on a tricky subject. If you stay in a pagespace, usually someone more knowledgeable (or motivated) comes along and becomes an ally for getting the space up to A or GA class. Hope you're remembering to keep up with the Kleins. His mouth is ripe for foot. BusterD (talk) 11:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody will presumably undo the redirect, and then I'll AfD the damn thing. Also: Look forward to the AfD discussion, in which the fact that I redirected it while suspecting that I'd be un-done will be used as proof of my personal bad-faith. <eleland/talkedits> 00:50, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Following a comment of yours, I sent you an email to hopefully clarify what seems to be a misunderstanding.
Warm regards, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 01:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Joe you are welcome. It's a big subject. Can't quite understand why some people out there want to dis it so heavily. Weird. Hugh Mason (talk • contribs 15:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a Manual of Style guideline, more a requests for arbitration procedure. Statement headers are supposed to be at level four. Meaning that the header should be ==== Statement by KnightLago ====. Please let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks! KnightLago (talk) 21:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You stated that "there are Greek ultra-nationalists involved" in articles over Macedonia. I respect your point of view. But what makes you say that? Can you give some quotes that validate your point? If you are correct, it would help the situation by pointing out the 'offensive' language to those users. Thanks. Politis (talk) 12:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, at least you have a sense of humour - and that is balm to my soul :-) OK, forget the quotes. But can I ask you, did you know anything about the issue before you came across the page? And what were the pages that generated that reaction in you. I hope I do not sound critical, I certainly dont intend to be critical about something that was a spontaneous reaction, and I thank you for your response. Politis (talk) 15:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong about Greece inviting Serbia to invade the Republic of Macedonia - or rather, the paper you read gave you the wrong information (and yes, I am horrified at what the Serbs did to people, including to their own people during the Yugoslav wars). But thanks for your answer, much appreciated.Politis (talk) 19:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to bump into your page, but I happen to know about the episode you mentioned between Serbia and Greece. What actually happened (and is documented in multiple books and TV shows) is that Slobodan Milosevic, proposed to Constantine Mitsotakis to partition the Republic. Mitsotakis denied and replied to Milosevic that "Greece is a European country and we cannot even think of such things" and that "the last thing we want is to have these people back into our own territory". Here is a video of Mitsotakis himself mentioning the incident from 5:20 to 5:55, I'm afraid it is in Greek though. --Avg (talk) 19:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info.
--NBahn (talk) 19:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't respond on this sooner. Between the pretty weather and some personal writing ambition, I was pretty focused, and I never got back to your request. Based on your link, I suspect what you wanted to do was not merely welcome, but also express some caution. I personally like to {{subst:welcome}}~~~~ a bunch of folks, but keep it simple, using the template I installed on this page with my tildes. In case like the one you were seeing on Saturday, I'd suggest using warning templates, which are actually really handy to use. The first-level warnings read very much like welcome statements. I use some javascript tools to make the task easier. BusterD (talk) 12:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well we're past late May, so whad'ya say? Cheers! bd2412 T 00:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We originally picked TGI Friday's in Foggy Bottom as the meetup location, however I stopped by TGI Friday's this evening to make reservations. I was less than impressed. They apparently don't take reservations, except perhaps if you call 24 hours ahead of time. The staff was not so helpful, and the menu has hardly anything vegetarian which is an issue for some people.

So, I checked out the Bertucci's pizza/Italian place across the street (21st & I St NW). Their staff couldn't have been more helpful, think it will be fairly quiet so we will be able to hear each other, and is a very suitable place for us. So, reservations are made for Bertucci's at 5pm on Saturday. I hope you can make it to the meetup. --Aude (talk) 02:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message (and support)! I just found it really strange that those articles didn't exist. And yes, I have corrected the grammar on my page! NarSakSasLee (talk) 21:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

...day to you too! --Angeljon121 (talk) 03:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link to Glenn Greenwald's newest column. Seems Klein can't help but stick his foot in his mouth. BusterD (talk) 10:57, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see that I'm going to have to pull myself together and rewrite my article.....
--NBahn (talk) 20:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ... just fyi, you appended the other fellow's sig to my comment. I've added mine ... you might want to delete his sig. Best. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jonathan_Cook&diff=prev&oldid=328172801--Epeefleche (talk) 01:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nbahn, I'd like to ask you to reconsider your last comment on this AFD. Generally speaking I think "calling a spade a spade" is something to do when necessary, but clearly it isn't necessary or relevant here where the vast majority of people are !voting keep. Even if there are comments that you would like to criticize, surely it is far better to focus on those comments than on the perceived motivations of an entire side. I think your comment goes quite far off topic; I'll be surprised if I'm the only person to ask that you remove it or strike it. Regards, Mackan79 (talk) 23:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I second this request. You'd previously made the same point in the AfD in a more discreet manner that was unlikely to cause objections. EdJohnston (talk) 05:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I third it. (now that I am on the keep side of the vote, I feel comfortable sharing my feeling). I know from our prior interaction at the AfD that you're more diplomatic than that post.--Epeefleche (talk) 12:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am tired;
tired of the soul-sapping fear;
that fear of being tarred and smeared with the anti-semite label;
of dealing with the false innuendos and -- should that fail to wreck one's resolve -- the false charges;
I'm tired of it;
tired of it all.

Just one of you I could -- albeit with difficulty -- ignore.
With two of you I am unable to do so;
and the three of you form a bloc that I simply haven't the will to resist;
therefore, I will accede to your request.
I will strike through my comment (As opposed to removing it as I see that it has -- however odiously --been responded to; and I will not touch that user's comment.).

A couple of thoughts go through my head as I type this;
one is Clausewitz's dictum that war is merely the continuation of policy and politics by other means;
the other is a line popularly attributed to Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce: "I am tired; my heart is sick and sad."
I haven't the will to continue to carry this on. <br. />--NBahn (talk) 09:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Well that gave me a smile, so I hope you're not too tired of it all. I am really just the literalist, thinking of how to avoid the bad feeling on both sides. I'm sure the strike will be appreciated, so who knows, maybe a little outburst doesn't need to be a bad thing in the end. And maybe we're just tired because it's dark out. Mackan79 (talk) 10:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I'm glad that I was able to brighten at least one person's day.<br. />--NBahn (talk) 10:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, made me happily think of Blazing Saddles.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• For those of you who don't get that reference, or simply wish to reminisce, we have this.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• "Surely" I will have to make a point of seeing it.....<br. />--NBahn (talk) 02:53, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I accidently reverted your edit [2] I reverted myself afterwards. [3] Just a slow loading computer that was still shifting the text around. maclean (talk) 15:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem — stuff happens; C'est la vie.<br. />--NBahn (talk) 23:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's not early-onset Alzheimer's at all. It could be Halfsheimer's. That's only half as bad. Or it may be C.R.A.F.T. Syndrome (Can't Remember a Freakin' Thing.) <--- I cleaned that up a wee bit. Cheers, David in DC (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HA!<br. />--NBahn (talk) 04:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Please take me off the DC distribution list. Thanks. -- Y not? 16:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't figure out what the final plans are. There were so many options discussed, and the page is so full of conflicting options, that I can't figure out what was finally decided. Nothing I see is impossible for me, but I do want to know when it's going to be! -- BRG (talk) 20:27, 10 December 2009 (UTC) Oh, OK. I looked at the planning page, not at the page that had the final decision. Sorry. -- BRG (talk) 20:30, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

from Megaidler (talk) 13 December 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 23:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]

You're quite welcome; I don't know about you, but I think that a blank talk page is always a bit sad.<br. />--NBahn (talk) 04:02, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a friendly reminder, WP:AGF applies to IPs too. The IP that edited Incarceration in the United States has little or no history of vandalism; I believe he/she was mistaken, but not acting in bad faith (see my reply on the talk page for more details). Please try and avoid biting newcomers and intermittent editors who have not demonstrated bad faith. Being more careful before accepting their edits at face value is fine, but you were all but accusing him of deliberate bad faith editing. —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 21:59, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch. I take your point. I would, however, like to elaborate as to what my thinking was at the time I typed all of that out. It seemed to me (as it still does, mind you) that the stated reason was way too risible; I was not — and still am not — able to take such an argument at face value. Presumably, the journalist in question lives in Cuba; I would argue that it's who publishes him that determines ipso facto his notability, not his country of residence. So when I considered potential ulterior motives, I (perhaps all too naturally) developed a number of ugly possibilities. I was considering the likelihood of these various possibilities (being under their influence, as it were) while I was typing, and I suppose that it shows. Another possibility that I was considering in the back of my mind while typing was that it seemed to me that the odds were slim to none that the IP editor would actually check up on the history of the article; so I made a semi-conscious decision to try to get his (or "her"!) attention. I — very obviously — got yours instead. I would very much like to know if he truly believes in the tripe that he served up as a rationale; and if he does truly believe in it, then I would also like to know what his exact reasoning is. I'm sure that it would be fascinating.<br. />--NBahn (talk) 00:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An understandable response; I've had to check myself on other articles occasionally after involvement in Balkans related discussions. They tend to (not unreasonably) spike my sensitivity to bad faith. I still try to avoid jumping to the bad faith assumption. It's not just a matter of civility, it's in my own interest. I've seen editors accused of bad faith react by lashing out blindly; it leads to edit wars, and sometimes vandalism. When approached in a more friendly manner, they tend to be much more reasonable. I'm not excusing their response to a bad faith assumption, but if you can avoid unnecessarily antagonizing them, it's much better all around. —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 21:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was told via a banner above the main screen. I wasn't aware that the blacklist was for talk page warnings only, and that the banner can't be remobed. SOrry for the confusion. --Delta1989 (talk/contributions) 12:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is the capacity for our reservation with UNO's? If you didn't notice, agroup from Virginia Tech just signed up for ~15 people. That puts our most likely count to ~40 and 25 on the maybes.Sadads (talk) 16:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, we're now in discussions about Wikipedia:Meetup/DC_10. Hope you can join us! Was it you, by any chance, who used a bot to push notifications out to our usuals? If so or if not, would you be able to help get the word out? --rocketrye12 ^{talk/contribs} 03:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rocketrye12--

I've basically been off of Wikipedia since January; however, if there is anything that I can do to help (at least, anything that has not already been done), then just say it!<br. />--NBahn (talk) 05:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got a question. Will the events going on for Meetup/DC 10 be paid for by WMF or paid for by members (me, you, etc)? Just curious as to whether or not I should put some money aside on the 1st (payday) for events/dinner/etc. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 00:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just bringing this to your attention as it got covered up. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 04:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Editors/members pay for their own grub; anything with the Smithsonian Institution better be free, or else there might be a full-scale riot!
;-)<br. />—NBahn (talk) 04:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grub can be paid for, just need to know where we are going so I know what to allot, but I guess that will be planned. Didn't know we were going to the Smithsonian. Really hope I can get a ride, I would really like to see the Smithsonian. Live this close to DC, never actually been to DC since I was 3....and that was on a Greyhound bus, so it doesn't really count. :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So I finally looked up Winchester, VA; Whooee! You certainly are out THERE!!! Your best bet is to — somehow — make your way to Germantown, MD. If you can make your way there, (I don't think that Greyhound is all that viable an option) I can give you further instructions (or, conversely, meet you there) regarding mass transit.<br. />—NBahn (talk) 01:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, I am waaaay out there :) It is nice out here though, nothing ever happens. I could, possibly, make it to Vienna and ride the Metro in. Would need to get a ride to do that. So I am not sure if that is an option. I will wait for the date for the event to published and see what I can do in the finance department (I am broke right now) and take it from there. :) - NeutralHomer • Talk • 01:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly would I need to be furnishing a card for? ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 14:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that I wasn't specific enough in my posting; in order to reserve the space at Tortilla Coast, a credit/debit card is required. I'm trying to find someone who would be willing to use their card for such a purpose; I'll post the details later today.<br. />—NBahn (talk) 13:00, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you considered contacting someone from the Foundation to see whether they would put down the deposit? ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 00:48, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is generally not much encyclopedic value in what we call a "gallery" (a collection of multiple images of a given person); and if the images are not public-domain, then having a whole gallery of them violates the fair-use principle. Look at how few images are in a major article like Martin Luther King, Jr.. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm understanding you correctly, then what you're saying is that while a series of such photos — in and of themselves — would be most unwelcome in Wikipedia itself, a link to such a gallery would be acceptable. Exactly how accurate would you say that my characterization of your views is?<br. />—NBahn (talk) 04:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm less of an expert on how Commons treats these things; I pretty much stick to WP and Vikipedio (the Esperanto Wikipedia). --Orange Mike | Talk 13:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NBahn (I have also replied on AnmaFinotera's talk page). While galleries are not always "encyclopedic" on WP, Commons welcomes free license images, and a link to a Commons gallery (using {{Commons}}) is most welcome. G.A.S^talk 09:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• G.A.S—
  Thank you very much for the courtesies of your replies.<br. />—NBahn (talk) 12:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:09, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, got an email from you this morning with a doc that I was not able to open (google docs error), what's up? Also, Kate had mentioned progress with the Smithsonian for DC10, anything to report? Also, I think it may be time to tally up the votes...gotto get reserving! --rocketrye12 ^{talk/contribs} 18:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--rocketrye12 ^{talk/contribs} 18:55, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

But I'm surprised about something: I would have expected you to delete Hunter S. Thompson's entry from the list. May I ask you what your reasoning was? I rather obviously don't follow it.
Respectfully,<br. />—NBahn (talk) 14:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually rather embarrassed to admit this, but there really was no reasoning... it was just carelessness on my part (it was a bit late. I thought I had deleted the whole thing). Thank you for bringing that to my attention. It's (hopefully) fixed now. ;-) Ryecatcher773 (talk) 18:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow I am not on your list, although I have left comments. Do you still need help with the reservation? Racepacket (talk) 07:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bloody hell; I've let things slip, as it were. I suppose that we could go to a buffet-style dinner (at $15 a head), but I put out word on the announcement talk page that it would be each table's tab..... But I've just received an email from Unique Morris at UNO's Chicago Pizzeria & Grill at Union Station; in it, she says that they want it on one bill. So I guess that I'd better put a notice on the planning page..... May I trouble you to email me?<br. />—NBahn (talk) 07:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Do you want a 5:30 p.m. start or a 6:00 p.m. start? Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nbahn! We are looking for editors to join the Smithsonian Institution collaboration, an outreach effort which aims to support collaboration such as Wiki-Academies, article writing, and other activities to engage the Smithsonian Institution in Wikipedia. We thought you might be interested, and hope that you will join us. Thanks!!!

Hey, I thought you might want to see this since you have your list of interested people. You don't have to do any planning this time ! Yeah! You should come to dinner and enjoy it, Sadads (talk) 00:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that taking reservations without prepayments is a mistake. Racepacket (talk) 22:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• (Since I can't PM you, I'm responding here.....)
  Then please either post here or contact Ryan Dellolio either at ryan(at)gwu(dot)edu or at one nine one four four two four two zero seven five.<br. />—NBahn (talk) 05:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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	The Anime and Manga BarnSakura Award
	I award you this BarnSakura in recondition of your contributions to anime and manga articles during 2010 and because everyone deserves a little recondition every once in a while. ;) —Farix (t | c) 17:44, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am both humbled and honored by your recognition (as you can see, however, it´s been a while since I last edited anything here).<br. />—NBahn (talk) 18:57, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to WikiXDC, a special meetup event and celebration on Saturday, January 22 hosted by the National Archives and Records Administration in downtown Washington, D.C.

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Archives of American Art Backstage Pass! - You are invited!

The Smithsonian is hosting its first Backstage Pass at the Archives of American Art in, Washington, D.C., on Friday, July 29. 10 Wikimedians will experience the behind the scenes aspects of archiving the world's largest collection of documents and photographs related to American art. After a complimentary lunch, an edit-a-thon will take place and prizes will be awarded. Followed by an evening happy hour. We hope you'll participate! SarahStierch (talk) 16:49, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GLAM Baltimore 2011 - You are invited!

GLAM Baltimore 2011 is a series of GLAM related events that will take place July 22-23 in Baltimore. The weekend launches with a happy hour for emerging GLAM professionals and concludes the following day with a lively discussion and series of breakout sessions on the morning of the 23rd. Attendance to both is encouraged but not required. We do hope you'll participate for this exciting event! See you in Baltimore! SarahStierch (talk) 13:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The first ever WikiProject National Archives newsletter has been published. Please read on to find out what we're up to and how to help out! There are many opportunities for getting more involved. Dominic·t 21:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject National Archives Newsletter July 2011 News Featured article contest This week, our first multilingual featured article contest was announced. We are aiming to improve the articles on the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, or Bill of Rights to featured or good status in English and other languages. Prizes for winners will be a gift package from the National Archives including a book of your choice or a tote bag, and other swag, plus, of course, a special barnstar. August 6 backstage pass Plans are in the works for a meetup and backstage pass event at the National Archives II facility in College Park, MD. There will be a regular social meetup, a discussion with Dominic about WP:NARA, a tour of the building by NARA staff, and then time for a scanathon and editathon in the research rooms and library until the building closes at 5 pm. Keep your schedules open! From our recent uploads: ...see more. Special requests: This section includes special requests from the NARA staff: Archival Recovery Team The National Archives' Archival Recovery Team (ART) is a team of law enforcement agents and archivists who investigate NARA's lost and stolen documents. They have received media attention ([4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]) and would like to request an article be written for the team, if Wikipedians deem it notable. It is hoped that making more information about the group available on Wikipedia will increase public awareness of the documents they are seeking to recover. Ongoing Today's Document challenge The Today's Document challenge is an opportunity for Wikipedians to get their work related to National Archives holdings spotlighted on Archives.gov and the National Archives' tumblr. Each day the National Archives selects a document related to the day's date to showcase. The goal is to get articles related to the selected documents on the main page in ""Did You Know...?" the same day that the National Archives features the document. Alternatively, other appropriate articles related to National Archives holdings not already selected will be used for new documents of the day by NARA staff and posted to their tumblr. Wikisource WP:NARA has a sister WikiProject on Wikisource, WS:NARA. On Wikisource, editors transcribe, proofread, and arrange documents. This helps to make little-known documents more discoverable, or well-known documents more searchable, and improves accessibility. See the files being worked on. If you are new to Wikisource and would like to participate, there are experienced Wikisourcerors willing to be mentors. New contributions A list of some recent contributions to the project: Wikipedia District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act (Fetchcomms) Court of the Patriarchs (CutOffTies) Opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom (Fetchcomms) Wikisource1 Memorial of Queen Liliuokalani in relation to the Crown lands of Hawaii Petition from women of Brookline Resolutions of the Joint Committee on the Washington Monument H. R. 4982 A Petition For Universal Suffrage Susan B. Anthony petition for remission of fine Alexander Hamilton's commission to take rank as Colonel 1Credit goes to Prosody, Theornamentalist, Inductiveload, Digipoke, George Orwell III, Kathleen.wright5, BirgitteSB, and Zhaladshar Tools Archives.gov grabber (Slakr) Future plans Major image contribution The National Archives has hundreds of thousands of digitized documents in its holdings. We are working on a bulk upload to Commons of one particular cache of about 123,000 TIFF master files in the next few days! Once uploaded, these will require a massive community effort to help categorize the files on Commons and add them to articles on Wikipedia or transcribe them on Wikisource. Inclusion in the online catalog We are currently working on a system for including links to pages on Wikimedia projects in the National Archives online catalog. The Wikimedia projects are hosting an increasing number of transcriptions of National Archives documents and high-quality image and video files that are not available through NARA's own site. Links to these Wikimedia pages in the documents' actual catalog records will benefit the end user by providing them access to further resources about the documents, and they will also demonstrate the National Archives commitment to supporting Wikimedians' efforts. To stop receiving this newsletter, please remove your name from the list.

DC Meetup 21 - Who should come? You should. Really.
	DC MEETUP 21 is July 29! This meet up will involve Wikipedians from the area as well as Wiki-loving GLAM professionals. See you Friday! SarahStierch (talk) 16:32, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Archives Backstage Pass - Who should come? You should. Really.
	On Saturday, August 6, the National Archives is hosting a Wikipedia meetup, backstage pass tour, and edit-a-thon in College Park, Maryland. Meet staff and fellow Wikipedians, go behind the scenes at the National Archives, help digitize documents, and edit together! Dominic·t 21:30, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there! I was going to be in Leesburg, Virginia for the 150th anniversary program and re-enactment at Balls Bluff. One of my friends is a battlefield guide up there, and I was wondering how you'd feel about coming up the historic Balch Library or the Leesburg Public Library to be part of a WLL event? I'm just roughing in the idea right now. Get you a private wikipedian tour of the battlefield before the reenactment... I'm going to ask a couple of other DCers. BusterD (talk) 16:12, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about this tardy reply — I am quite honored that you would think of me; unfortunately, I am no longer in the D.C. area.<br. />—NBahn (talk) 18:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to hear from you. Hope things are well. BusterD (talk) 19:04, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DC Meetup 23 & Annual Membership Meeting

Wikimedia District of Columbia, the newest officially recognized chapter, is holding its Annual Membership Meeting at 1pm on Saturday, October 1, 2011 at the Tenley-Friendship Neighborhood Library. Agenda items include: election of the Board of Directors for the next two years approval of a budget for the 2011-2012 fiscal year report on the activities and accomplishments of the past year social gathering afterwards at a nearby restaurant Candidate nominations are open until 11:59pm EDT on Saturday, September 24. We encourage you to consider being a candidate. (see see candidate instructions) The meeting is open to both the general public and members from within the DC-MD-VA-WV-DE region and beyond. We encourage everyone to attend! You may join the chapter at the meeting or online.

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National Archives Backstage Pass - Who should come? You should. Really.
	You are invited to the National Archives in College Park for a special backstage pass and scanathon meetup with Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, on Saturday, October 8. Go behind the scenes and into the stacks at the National Archives, help digitize documents, and edit together! Free catered lunch provided! Dominic·t 16:23, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Loves Libraries DC & edit-a-thon
Wikipedia Loves Libraries comes to DC on Saturday, November 5th, from 1-5pm, at the Martin Luther King Jr Memorial Library. We will be holding an edit-a-thon, working together to improve Wikipedia content related to DC history, arts, civil rights, or whatever suits your interests. There may also be opportunities to help with scanning historic photos plus some swag! You're invited and we hope to see you there!
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Fine Art Edit-a-Thon & Meetup - Who should come? You should. Really.

FINE ART EDIT-A-THON & DC MEETUP 26 is December 17! The Edit-a-Thon will cover fine art subjects from the Federal Art Project and the meet up will involve Wikipedians from the area as well as Wiki-loving GLAM professionals. You don't have to attend both to attend one (but we hope you do!) Click the link above and sign up & spread the word! See you there! SarahStierch (talk) 17:45, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to the National Archives ExtravaSCANza, taking place every day next week from January 4–7, Wednesday to Saturday, in College Park, Maryland (Washington, DC metro area). Come help me cap off my stint as Wikipedian in Residence at the National Archives with one last success! This will be a casual working event in which Wikipedians are getting together to scan interesting documents at the National Archives related to a different theme each day—currently: spaceflight, women's suffrage, Chile, and battleships—for use on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons. The event is being held on multiple days, and in the evenings and weekend, so that as many locals and out-of-towners from nearby regions1 as possible can come. Please join us! Dominic·t 01:28, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply] 1 Wikipedians from DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, New York City, and Pittsburgh have been invited.

Who should come? You should. Really.
	She Blinded Me with Science: Smithsonian Women in Science Edit-a-Thon will be held on Friday, March 30, 2012 at the Smithsonian Archives in Washington, D.C. This edit-a-thon will focus on improving and writing Wikipedia content about women from the Smithsonian who contributed to the sciences. It will be followed by a happy hour meetup! We look forward to seeing you there!

Sarah (talk) 04:22, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please join us for a Wikimedia DC Meetup & Dinner on Saturday, May 5. This will be a great opportunity to meet other Wikimedians from the DC area, discuss upcoming Wikimedia DC activities and events, and have fun over dinner and drinks. All ages are welcome! Kirill [talk] 04:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please join us for the second Smithsonian Institution Archives Edit-a-thon! This event will focus on Smithsonian history including the history of the Institution's museums, archives, research centers and the people behind them. This will be a great opportunity to learn about the Archives, work within them & with staff, and learn more about the world's largest museum complex. We hope you'll join us on Friday, May 25. Please sign up here! Sarah (talk) 21:48, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply] Note: You received this message because you were listed here. If you no longer wish to receive messages of this nature, please remove yourself from that list.

"Masterpiece Museum" Edit-a-Thon at the Smithsonian American Art Museum

The Smithsonian American Art Museum and Wikimedia DC present the "Masterpiece Museum" Edit-a-Thon. Drawing from their vast vaults of art, the caretakers of the Smithsonian American Art Museum have meticulously drawn forth canvas jewels to import into Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia articles. The museum directors and staff are excited about this project, and would love to have experienced Wikimedians help in the effort! Kirill [talk] 18:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply] When August 10, 2012, 10 AM - 4 PM Where Smithsonian American Art Museum, 7th & F St NW, Washington, DC Signup Details & signup

Backstage at the Smithsonian Libraries is part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries 2012, the second annual continent-wide campaign to bring Wikipedia and libraries together with on-site events. Running this fall through October and November, libraries (and archives) will open their doors to help build a lasting relationship with their local Wikipedian community.

Organized by Wikimedia DC, this event will take place on October 12, 2012, and will include new editor training, a "backstage pass" tour of the National Museum of Natural History, and an edit-a-thon. Everyone is welcome to attend!

Kirill ^[talk] 18:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

December 10 is Ada Lovelace's birthday! Not only was she the world's first computer programmer, but also the world's first female open source developer! Come celebrate with Wikimedia District of Columbia at Busboys & Poets for an informal get together!

The Washington, DC event will be held on Monday, December 10, 2012 at Busboys & Poets on 5th St NW & K St NW near Mt Vernon Square. The area is easily accessible by the Red Line Chinatown stop and the Yellow Line and Green Line Mt Vernon Square stop, as well as by WMATA buses.

Kirill ^[talk] 14:16, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please join Wikimedia DC and four other local media nonprofits—the National Press Club's Young Members Committee, 100Reporters, IRE and the Fund for Investigative Journalism—in winding down another year with a night of well-mannered frivolity.

The festivities will take place on Friday evening from 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM in the Zenger Room on the 13th Floor of the National Press Club, located on 529 14th Street NW, near Metro Center. There will be meat and vegetarian appetizers as well as a cash bar with specially reduced drink prices all night long. In addition, we will be exhibiting the finalists of the Wiki Loves Monuments photo contest at the event.

Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 04:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please join Wikimedia DC for Happy Hour at the Capitol City Brewery at Metro Center on Thursday, February 28 at 6 p.m. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 34. Hope to see you there! Harej (talk) 02:26, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nbahn, since you are interested in meetups in DC, I'd like to invite you to attend the Cato Institute's "Wikipedia and Legislative Data" events on March 14. (There's also an all day workshop on March 15; let me know if you are interested, we may be able to add more people.)

There will be an introduction to Wikipedia and open edit-a-thon in the afternoon, and a Sunshine Week Reception in the evening. I hope you can make it!

• Please sign up here
• Announcement on Cato's blog
• Background from Cato sponsor Jim Harper's perspective
• Background from Wikipedian Pete Forsyth's perspective

Hope to see you there! -Pete (talk) 19:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Guapo's at Tenleytown-AU on Saturday, March 9 at 5 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 35. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 14:02, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In honor of Women's History Month, the Smithsonian and the National Museum of Women in the Arts are teaming up to organize a Women in the Arts Meetup & Edit-a-thon on Friday, March 29, 2013 from 10:00am - 5:00pm. The event is focused on encouraging women editors while improving Wikipedia entries about women artists and art world figures. This event is free of charge, but participation is limited to 20 volunteers, so RSVP today! Sarasays (talk) 23:17, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, April 13 at 5:30 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 36. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 19:06, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for two exciting events this weekend:

On the evening of Friday, April 19, we're hosting our first-ever WikiSalon at our K Street office. The WikiSalon will be a twice-monthly informal meetup and collaborative editing event to help build the community of Wikimedia enthusiasts here in DC; please join us for its inaugural session. Light refreshments will be provided.

On Saturday, April 20, we've partnered with the George Washington University to host the All Things GW Edit-a-Thon at the Teamsters Labor History Research Center. Please join us for behind-the-scenes tours of the University Archives and help edit articles about GWU history.

We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! Kirill ^[talk] 20:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, May 11 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 23:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of May 24 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 18:26, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use.

Please go to the event page to get more information, including a detailed program schedule.

If you are interested in participating, please register by sending an email to pmhmeet@gmail.com. Please indicate if you are coming in person or if you will be joining us via the webinar. After registering, you will receive additional information about how to get to our campus (if coming in-person) and details about how to join the webinar. Klortho (talk) 00:51, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Thursday, June 6 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 11:56, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry for the last-minute notice, but on Saturday, June 8, from 3 to 6 PM, Wikimedia DC and the Cato Institute are hosting a Legislative Data Meetup. We will discuss the work done so far by WikiProject U.S. Federal Government Legislative Data to put data from Congress onto Wikipedia, as well as what more needs to be done. If you have ideas you'd like to contribute, or if you're just curious and feel like meeting up with other Wikipedians, you are welcome to come! Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

I hope to see you there!

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Harej (talk) 04:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, June 15 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 19:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

	Great American Wiknic DC at Meridian Hill Park
	You are invited to the Great American Wiknic DC at the James Buchanan Memorial at Meridian Hill Park. We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck! :)

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Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, July 13 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 00:18, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the Smithsonian American Art Museum You're invited to the Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon, part of a series of edit-a-thons organized by the Smithsonian American Art Museum to add and expand articles about American art and artists on Wikipedia. This event will include a catered lunch and special tours of the Luce Foundation Center for American Art and the Lunder Conservation Center at the Smithsonian American Art Museum. 9:15 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. on Friday, July 19, 2013 Smithsonian American Art Museum Meet at G Street Lobby (9th St. & G St. NW, Washington, D.C.) Capacity is limited, so please sign up today! If you would not like to receive future messages about meetups, please remove your name from our distribution list. Message delivered by Dominic·t 03:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC).[reply]

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Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, August 24 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 03:59, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Wednesday, August 24 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 11:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you free on Saturday, September 14? If so, please join Wikimedia DC and local Wikipedians for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages are welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please visit the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 18:51, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next WikiSalon, which will be held from 7 to 9 PM on Thursday, September 5 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon is an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 14:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next WikiSalon, which will be held from 7 to 9 PM on Thursday, September 26 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon is an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 05:46, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for a special WikiSalon at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Library's Digital Commons Center. We will gather at 3 PM on Sunday, October 13, 2013 to discuss an important topic: what can Wikipedia and the DC area do to help each other? We hope to hear your thoughts and suggestions; if you have an idea you would like to pursue, please let us know and we will help!

Following the WikiSalon, we will be having dinner at a nearby restaurant, Ella's Wood Fired Pizza.

If you're interested in attending, please sign up at the event page. We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 02:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

You are invited to two upcoming events in DC:

• Meetup at Capitol City Brewery on Saturday, January 25 at 6 PM. Please join us for dinner, drinks, socializing, and discussing Wikimedia DC activities and events. All are welcome! RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.
• Art and Feminism Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, February 1 from Noon – 5 PM. Join us as we improve articles on notable women in history! All are welcome, regardless of age or level of editing experience. RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.

I hope to see you there!

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Harej (talk) 00:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there!

Our February WikiSalon is coming up on Sunday, February 23. Join us at our gathering of Wikipedia enthusiasts at the Kogod Courtyard of the National Portrait Gallery with an optional dinner after. As usual, all are welcome. Care to join us?

Also, if you are available, there is an American Art Edit-a-thon being held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum with Professor Andrew Lih's COMM-535 class at American University on Tuesday, February 11 from 2 to 5 PM. Please RSVP on the linked page if you are interested.

If you have any ideas or preferences for meetups, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/DC.

Thank you, and hope to see you at our upcoming events! Harej (talk) 18:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Come one and come all. To a presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history.

• Show the Internet who is the better editor.
• Be the creator of culture that you know you are.
• Spread the knowledge of noteworthy people who no one but you cares about.
• Lead the charge to a better Wikipedia --- eventually.

Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See you at the Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street, Laurel, MD on Thursday, September 11, 2014 at 7:00 PM EST. See http://www.meetup.com/Wikimedia-DC/events/205494212/ for more information. Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiSalon is a special meetup usually held during the first and third full weeks of every month, from 7 PM to 9 PM. It's an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss Wikimedia wikis and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own.

If you're coming by Metro, the closest station is Dupont Circle (on the Red Line). If you're driving, a lot of parking opens up downtown after 6:30 PM, so finding a parking space (even a free one) should be easy. Once you've found the building, go to Cove on the second floor. We will be in the conference room.

When: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM

Where: The Cove, Dupont Circle, 1730 Connecticut Avenue NW, 2nd floor, 20009, DC

For more information, see http://www.meetup.com/Wikimedia-DC/events/205500822/

My best regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 02:25, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia DC's Upcoming meetups

• Thursday, September 11: “Wikipedia and YOUR History: Taking Control of the Internet, One Article at a Time!”

  A presentation at the Laurel Historical Society about how you can help verify, validate, and edit the information that is on the front line of local history. Laurel Pool Room, 9th and Main Street in Laurel, MD. 7 PM.

• Wednesday, September 17: WikiSalon

  Come for the pizza, stay for the conversation. 7 PM – 9 PM

• Saturday, September 20: September Meetup

  Get dinner and drinks with fellow Wikipedians! 6 PM

• Sunday, September 21: Laurel History Edit-a-Thon

  Local history for Wikipedia! 10:15 AM – 4 PM

• Saturday, September 27 – Sunday, September 28: Please RSVP for the Open Government WikiHack at Eventbrite by clicking on the link. The National Archives and Records Administration and Wikimedia DC are teaming up to come up with solutions that help integrate government data into Wikipedia. 10:30 AM – 5 PM each day

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