Talk:Shri

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Sri is a word which is taken with respect, and used when initiating any noble cause.

What does srimati/shrimathi mean? Is this to address women? Andries 12:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Feminine of Sri, but traditionally used to address only married women. Unmarried women are usually called Kumari (variously also meaning daughter, girl, etc., akin to English miss).

From what I know, Sri can also mean "bountiful". Komitsuki (talk) 09:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There's no such thing as a "feminine subjunctive gender" in Sanskrit. There's a feminine gender for nouns, and remnants of an ancient subjunctive mood for verbs..--Grammatical error 17:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sri is also used as an honorific, to indicate that the person being honored is prosperous. This ought to be in the article. nein? Alamandrax 14:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

I saw this:

"When used as a title for gods, Śrī is sometimes translated into English as Lord, but this is inaccurate and it is generally agreed that Śrī is best left untranslated."

But can a _definition_ of it be given, or is it not the kind of thing that has one per se? mike4ty4 (talk) 06:52, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We read that:

Sri, Shri, Shree, Siri or Seri (Devanagari - श्री, Bahasa- Seri,Kannada- ಶ್ರೀ, Tamil - ஸ்ரீ, official IAST transliteration Śrī) means wealth, is a Sanskrit title of veneration [. . .]. It is pronounced halfway between sree and shree.

Is this really correct for all the relevant languages? I know nothing about the relevant languages, but it's rare for languages as closely related as the romance languages to be all in such precise agreement.

When talking in English, we can choose between the "s" and "sh" sounds of "seat" and "sheet" respectively: we've no halfway phoneme. In English, what are the relative pros and cons of the "s" and "sh" sounds for, say, "Sri Lanka"? -- Hoary (talk) 07:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A pretty good article overall, this article needs sourcing. Tagged as such.--Lendorien (talk) 19:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are up to four languages found in the Balinese Wayang - Javanese, Balinese, Kawi and Pali - in addition to Bahasa Indonesia with its Malay borrowings which may be used these days in simple explanation for a wider audience. I have found a reference to Sri as being occasionally called Cili - but no confirmation as to which language context this is. It may even be a Sinicised pronunciation. 210.50.143.21 (talk) 13:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC) Ian Ison[reply]

Seri is pronounced that way in Thai, with the /r/ transformed to /l/, but I've never seen it transcribed with a soft /C/. The usual form is Sri, which undergoes elision of the /r/ altogether, and is always pronounced Si (or Ci, but never transcribed that way.) --Pawyilee (talk) 16:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The redirection header on this article is badly broken and has no links to any of the pages it is trying to link to. I do not know enough Wiki markup to fix it, though. Liam Proven (talk) 12:01, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Except for 1 line in lead and Etymology - everything else is copy pasted from Sri VasuVR (talk, contribs) 16:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and have gone ahead and copied the etymology section here and redirected that page. Abecedare (talk) 19:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The word "Shri' or "Sri' is the same word in the Indo-European, as 'Sir' as in a knighthood by the ancient Royal families of Celtic Britain, and also the common usage of "Excuse me sir, you dropped your card." It is not really "Mr" or "Ms". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Two Wrongs (talk • contribs) 16:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Have removed this as WP:OR, since the source only pointed to an online dictionary and didn't give any reliable indication of whether the title was a later addition or not. LouiseS1979 ^(pigeonhole) 15:28, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the title word should be fixed in its occurrences across the article, to be more consistent – Śhrī is an obvious over-transliteration nonsense. Also the note 1 has it wrong – compare with this or that. --Mykhal (talk) 12:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw Śhrī and went "what?"

The people working with Arabic script WP:MOSAR are tending toward using a strict transliteration when the word is first introduced, and a looser spelling that is easier on the eye in running text. Last time I was involved there, they were talking about rendering both ayin and hamza with straight-apostrophe, given that most English-speakers can't pronounce the difference.

Similarly with palatal श [ʃə] or [ɕə] and retroflex ष [ʂə] – the closest English spelling is "sha" for both. But people see śrī and simplify it to sri.

A problem with Indian terms is that everybody wants the spelling to reflect their pronunciation in their own language. Then we are likely to end up with the Tamil and Hindi speakers arguing about whether it's shri or sri. (As an aside, one Tamil blogger posted about changing the spelling of his name to ensure that people pronounce it sri-.) I'd love to have some guideline that says for pan-Indian topics, Wikipedia would stick to, say, Sanskrit or Hindi spelling for running text and be done with it.

For the long vowels, the old combinations like "ee" and "oo" (for ī and ū) look too colonial to me. I doubt many people would advocate shree as the preferred spelling. "ii" and "uu" are practical but unlikely to get much support: shrii. If avoiding diacritics, this leaves us with a single vowel for both long and short: shri. Long and short "a" are a bigger problem, but luckily that doesn't apply here.

On the other hand, if the title is "sri" and the text uses "shri"... sigh.

I'd like to see pronunciation guides for each entry in the table, but I'm loath to tag each one – it would look way too messy.

Pelagic (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, we've been there before with sri versus shri diff. Pelagic (talk) 20:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I get it that 108 is supposed to be magical. But where does 1008 come from? An explanation would be nice. Also, provided "sri sri" equals "sri 2", I wonder whether "sri sri 1008 sri" equals "sri 1010" ;) --Mykhal (talk) 13:07, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha. Indeed, modest they are not. Even one Shri/sir etc. is too many. 3 Shris is factor 3 too many , etc.

Zezen (talk) 09:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Am I understanding that section correctly? Like, for Shri 1008 Satyatma Tirtha, a person who comes to talk to him will stand there and say Shri 1008 times, then his name, and then say what they wanted to say?

Talking very quickly, you get about 4 "shri"s per second, so you'd be standing around in front of this guy for over four minutes before you'd even really begun your first sentence speaking to him.

And do you have to do the shri repetition every time you want to say something to him? Or is it like talking to the Queen of England? i.e. The formal greeting (Your Majesty) once to begin with, and then you can just address her simply as "m'am". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.7.207 (talk) 16:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn’t make reference to where this word is first used in Sanskrit literature? ChandlerMinh (talk) 07:23, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Marathi 103.87.28.118 (talk) 04:59, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]