User talk:Octane

Blurr Bird

Aside from the fact that Angry Birds Blurr isn't a plane-he's a futuristic car-your insulting tone is entirely unnecessary. You've outright admitted that you don't know who Blurr is in the past; all Cyberlink was trying to do was help you out. Escargon (talk) 11:29, 28 September 2019 (EDT)

He could’ve just told me that that was the case, now he just edited the line without telling me why he is a car and I got confused. I’m sorry if i sounded insulting, it was not my intention. Octane (talk) 21:20, 29 September 2019 (CEST)

Mighty Eagle

As I know nothing about Angry Birds, I cannot tell if the page is supposed to say "Challenge Event price" or "Challenge Event prize" as your supposed typo-correction left one of each spelling on the page. --Khajidha (talk) 13:31, 15 October 2019 (EDT)

Well it’s just a little vocabulary: a “prize” is something you can win, a “price” is how much you need to pay for something. And since we are talking about the Unlock Type of Superion, it would be a prize, because you can win him after collecting enough Tokens. Octane 17:29, 17 October 2019 (CEST)

Which is not obvious to someone who does not play these games. Even with your explanation, it is not clear if he is automatically unlocked upon reaching a certain level of tokens (making it a prize) or if you have to redeem the tokens (which would make the token count into a price). --Khajidha (talk) 11:12, 18 October 2019 (EDT)

Yes, I understand. You have to buy the character with the collected Tokens, but in this case, we say prize. The Token price of the character is not the way it is unlocked, it’s just how many Tokens it costs. And since you have to work hard for your Tokens, it really is a prize to finally be able to get yourself a new bot. And the fact that everyone used the term “prize” before I even started contributing here makes me use “prize” as well. (Btw you really should start playing AB Transformers it’s a great game) Octane 21:52, 18 October 2019 (CEST)

Your explanation still leaves me confused, as I don't play this type of video game. I play very few video games at all. Let me see if I understand. When you reach a certain level of tokens, the ability to purchase a character becomes unlocked. But you still have to redeem the tokens to actually receive that character? --Khajidha (talk) 17:15, 19 October 2019 (EDT)

Okay so you have to spend your Tokens on the character, so you will lose the Tokens, but you get a new character. The amount of Tokens you spend however, is not the way a character is unlocked. The way it is unlocked is by spending collected Tokens on it. By playing the Challenge Event very actively, you receive Tokens for your hard work. When having collected enough Tokens you can finally buy a new character, and therefore it is a prize. Octane 21:12, 22 October 2019 (CEST)

"Okay so you have to spend your Tokens on the character, so you will lose the Tokens, but you get a new character." That's what I said.

"The amount of Tokens you spend however, is not the way a character is unlocked. The way it is unlocked is by spending collected Tokens on it." Seems to me that that is EXACTLY how it is unlocked. It isn't available until you spend the tokens. The ability to purchase it is unlocked simply by reaching the token count. At least that's what your explanation above seems to be saying.

"When having collected enough Tokens you can finally buy a new character, and therefore it is a prize." Still seems like a "price" to me, if you have to give up the resource of tokens to receive it. But, if that's the way the gaming community wants to mangle the English language, there's little I can do about it. --Khajidha (talk) 15:28, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Dammit you are making me mad and confused please leave the Angry Birds Transformers part to the people who actually play the game because if you don’t know anything about the game you shouldn’t write about it. Octane 21:33, 22 October 2019 (CEST)

You'll notice I did not write about it. I originally asked you to clarify which of two words you meant to use, as you had used each in different spots and (despite your statement before) simple knowledge of the meanings of the words was not enough to clarify which I should change. As for confused, all of your responses to now have been somewhat confusing to me. Several of them seem to contradict previous answers you have given. But my interest in this game is virtually nil and I am willing to end this discussion now. --Khajidha (talk) 15:48, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

While I don't play ABTF either, I think I can explain the discrepancy. Think of it like going to an arcade and using the tickets you've collected to get something from the prize counter. Every item is labeled a prize, even though it has a price in tickets. ABTF works the same way, with Tokens being a limited currency type earned during events, which can be spent on one of a selection of "prizes" for that event. So while there is a "price" in tokens to get Eagle, he is still labeled in-game as a "challenge event prize". Honestly, the whole thing could be simplified if it was just spelled out as "Challenge Event Prize (Cost: 10,000 tokens)" on the page. (Also, Octane, I recommend toning down the aggressive attitude.) -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 15:50, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Yes, that is how it works, thanks for helping me out Cyberlink. And for the aggressive attitude: I am trying my best to do something right on this site, but then a more experienced user comes whooshing into my discussion page and starts confusing me a big time. After a while, I get a little irritated and start getting more aggressive (you can find another reason for that on my user page). I’m sorry man I’m just trying my best to do something good. Octane 22:14 , 22 October 2019 (CEST)

That is beginning to make sense to me. But I don't understand if this is a mandatory redemption for that character or if the player can choose not to get it. Your explanation seems to answer another one of my questions. The character is not received until after the event ends, correct? It is not an immediate thing during gameplay? Also, what if the player has more than enough tokens? What happens to the extra? Can you set them aside to build up a greater quantity or do they disappear after each event? --Khajidha (talk) 16:36, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Again, don't quote me on this since I don't play the game and I'm basing this on footage and writeups, but to answer your questions one by one: Redemption is the only way to get the character, but it isn't mandatory; you could just as easily redeem your tokens for other event items and ignore the character if you so choose. Tokens can be redeemed for prizes at any time during the event, and whatever prize you choose is immediately available for use. Once the event ends, any remaining tokens the player has earned disappear and whatever prizes were being offered are no longer obtainable (though you of course keep anything you already spent tokens on). -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 16:57, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Please tag your images

Hi! You've been uploading a lot of ABTF game images without category tags. Please add image categories whenever you upload images to help keep the wiki organized. Take a look at the Thrust / Dirge / Ramjet Minion Pig images you recently uploaded for examples, as I added categories for those. Thanks! Prime Radiant (talk) 13:59, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

Thx for pointing that out, I’ll look out for that in the future! Octane (talk) 15:16, 16 July 2020 (EDT)

On upcoming characters

Please don't write character entries in future tense with guesses. "___ is a new character who will likely become unlockable in the next few weeks" is not actually helpful and will need a total rewrite in short order, and quite often that rewrite never happens. It's absolutely fine to simply leave a {{gamestub}} there instead until actual solid gameplay information is available. --M Sipher (talk) 07:08, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

Alright, so what do you propose I write down beside the gamestub in the future? Octane (talk) 07:21, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

...Did you not read what he said? Write nothing. Escargon (talk) 09:04, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

Basically, if a character(s) hasn't been announced yet or there's only very small hints and/or rumors, just leave a {{gamestub}} in the entry. Putting in future tense entries like "___ is a new character who will likely become unlockable in the next few weeks" means extra and unnecessary work for others, and can easily cause confusion. --Lonegamer78 (talk) 03:58, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Personally I don’t feel like there’s too little information to put a {{gamestub}} in these kind of pages. Besides, most of the time I’m the person who ends up rewriting the article. Octane (talk) 09:33, 5 September 2020 (EDT)