User talk:Escargon

Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. Gren is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. Mimi 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren's never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn't have an English name. Those examples don't work at all. Escargon 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, "Alexa"). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I've shown with my examples.

And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! Mimi 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character might be based off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to Alexis in the notes/Stevo 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

Eh. Whatever, I don't even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I'm not the best one to ask about it. Escargon 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.User:MetroPlex71

You need to settle down just a little bit. --M Sipher 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.Escargon 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - SoundWave 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. Escargon 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Thanks. - SoundWave 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It's getting a little bit fishy....User:MetroPlex71

Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - Bumblejumper 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)

You're saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. Escargon 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn't want it on there I won't add it again, okay? :) - Bumblejumper 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)

No, it's not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don't add it again. Escargon 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Sorry, I won't add it again. But plz don't be so cross, I didn't know it was against the rules I'm new here. what exactly do not mean "major trouble? - Bumblejumper 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. Escargon 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)

Okay, it's completely understood. :) But if I say "Bank robbers stink" is that okay? (Just thought I'd better ask so I don't violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - Bumblejumper 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)

That is acceptable. And no, I don't. Escargon 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)

For the second time, chill. --M Sipher 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)

Why did you revert everything I wrote about Shadows Rising? Please let me know-- Nathan!

EDIT: Alright, now I noticed that it wasn't exactly the same, my apoligies. Escargon (talk) 15:53, 23 May 2023 (EDT)

Zobovor's fake BW names on BW DVD

Thanks for reverting my edit. i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters! --Rhymus (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)

Moving pages

You realise that when you move pages, as you've been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a [[x (Kre-O)]] page, you're meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap alone shows 333 mainspace links! (There's a reason for the bolded "Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding." text!). - SanityOrMadness (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)

Prime image

Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime's appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we're sticking with the image we already had. Escargon (talk) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

That's not how it works. Escargon (talk) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

But shouldn't it be? --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

No. Escargon (talk) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --TillAllR1 (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Look, I didn't make the rules. You're going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. Escargon (talk) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --Detour (talk) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

The Vigilant Town

Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4

But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that's the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2

Please check the differences before reverting. Klink (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --Detour (talk) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Eh. I hadn't seen the episode, and I'd trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. Escargon (talk) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Tenses

Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! Jalaguy (talk) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, sorry about that. I'll remember next time! Escargon (talk) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

Helloooo

Hihi, I didn't realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! Antimatter (talk) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)

Hello there! One of our admins is too, User:FortMax. Escargon (talk) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)

Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! Antimatter (talk) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

Nice talking to you, too! Escargon (talk) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

Response

What are you specifically talking about.--8492nd (talk) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy's pages. Escargon (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Scorn's caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I'm not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn't get in the way of information, on and information based site.--8492nd (talk) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--8492nd (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

No, it really shouldn't. And no, that's not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone's updated a talk page. Don't put responses to things on your talk page to other people's talk pages. Escargon (talk) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Why shouldn't it? It's the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.

And, for the most part in my experience, wiki's use the method of response I use, as it guarantee's the user get's the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.

Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--8492nd (talk) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.

And I'm not sure where you get that idea from. You're going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.

And no, I'm not. Escargon (talk) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it's not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin's are the one who are really the one's to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter's into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--8492nd (talk) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

......It's a public forum. Just because I'm not a moderator doesn't mean I shouldn't tell you that you're not doing what's right and ask you to stop. Escargon (talk) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

And even then, why wouldn't I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn't some message board. Escargon (talk) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won't have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it's just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy's, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it's a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same "rank" as them, you don't truly have the authority to make any real demands.

Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.

As to misinterpreting the rule, it's easy to do, as not every situation fit's into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --8492nd (talk) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

TFWiki doesn't have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it's basic stuff like 'please don't remove captions/add scores of new captions'. Admins aren't always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people's throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. Jalaguy (talk) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Alright. Escargon (talk) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Well how many Transformers Wiki's are their?--8492nd (talk) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

A couple. But we're the original one. Escargon (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--8492nd (talk) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

No, it doesn't. We've been around since 2006. We're far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. Escargon (talk) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--8492nd (talk) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

In response to comment on abates page

While those are notable achivements, I've been part of much smaller wiki's and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own ideas, take them from other sources.

As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a "fly by night" user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn't stick around. I don't know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn't be anywhere near tens of thousands.

But I'd still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I'd like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--8492nd (talk) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Would you knock it off? You've already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki's. Just stop. Escargon (talk) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

I've moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not "No it doesn't" and hyperbole--8492nd (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Oh my god knock it off. I was guessing the numbers, not hyperboling, and you're still persuing it. You think that just because there's only a few TFWiki's it doesn't matter we're the best. Look at all those other wiki's. They're shit, like almost every wiki.

Stop persueing this. Escargon (talk) 23:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Well, no I'm not. I've left that issue alone. Now I'm asking why you didn't considered my earlier point valid at the time. Now I simply wish to know if you actully had a point to counter my earlier comment or not. Now it has become a curiosity, not somthing I want to use to achive an end. And I will point out that wasn't my point when I made the comment.--8492nd (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

EDIT: And techcially, you were using hyperbole, given that your stated numbers were vastily larger than the real number......and I'm pretty sure hyperboling isn't a proper word.--8492nd (talk) 00:03, 19 July 2014 (EDT)

Swoop

Did Hasbro actually explicitly state they still have the name "Swoop"? Or are you extrapolating that from the explanation for AOE Strafe being named that way because of his two heads? I just checked the USPTO website - two entries for "Swoop" filed by Hasbro are listed as "dead", though that only means the name is not ®. It could still be ™ - but then I found entries for "Swoop Coupe" filed by Mattel and a goddamn COMPANY named "Swoop LLC" operating in the "toys" field that has its company name trademarked, both listed as "live" on the USPTO website. Knowing Hasbro's lawyers, they wouldn't touch the name with a ten foot pole at this point.

So again I ask, do you know of an explicit "We still have the name" statement by Hasbro, or are you simply basing an assumption on the fact that "trademark problems" was not explicitly cited as the reason for the name change for AOE?--Nevermore (talk) 07:33, 27 July 2014 (EDT)

"utterly stupid"

try not to be exactly that insulting when interacting with other people, please and thank you --ItsWalky (talk) 01:35, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, that was rude. Sorry. Escargon (talk) 01:43, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

Formatting titles

Quick reminder to follow the style guide when referring to the titles of things. e.g. episode names are wrapped in quotes, franchise names are italicised, and so on. Jalaguy (talk) 10:51, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

Okay. Escargon (talk) 10:54, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

Fire in the Dark Mini-Cons

May I consult with you on organizing the Fire in the Dark Mini-Cons since that community discussion seems to have died? I'm currently trying to figure out how to do Reptix and Ironlunge as they are the only beastformer volume 4 Micron Boosters to have already appeared in fiction, as Beast Wars: Uprising Predacons. As BWU appears to lack Mini-Cons (though Maximals/Predacons are roughly the same size as Micromasters), would it be appropriate to split the pages and classify the Aurex Mini-Cons as being associated with the original toys while the Primax Predacons are repurposings of those toys? This thought occurred to me because Ask Vector Prime classified the quasi-ROTF promotional Mighty Mini-Con Team as Aurex characters, which rather makes sense given the relative absence of Mini-Cons in Tyran. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 11:36, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

• shrugs* I guess. Escargon (talk) 15:11, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

Taking you up on your offer

Any idea who this might be? He is one of the Autobots who appear behind John Henry, near the end of the third chapter/issue. --Ascendron (talk) 22:42, 2 September 2015 (EDT)

Sorry I'm late! School stuff. Anyway, the stacks on his head remind me of Magnus. Escargon (talk) 16:20, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

Ah, yes. Sometimes these things seem so obvious once they're pointed out to me. Thanks! --Ascendron (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

You're welcome! (P.S. it appears the Legends comics are back up.) Escargon (talk) 17:07, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

Ask Vector Prime

Are you an Ask Vector Prime writer, like Jim Sorenson?--Primestar3 (talk) 07:55, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

Yes. Escargon (talk) 16:53, 11 September 2015 (EDT)

oh ok thanks for answering.--Primestar3 (talk) 10:09, 12 September 2015 (EDT)

Since you have transcribed other videos from the Ask Vector Prime Facebook, would you also be able to transcribe the Hammerstrike video of Rook's Facebook for this source page? I tried to at first but the more muffled parts became very hard for me to comprehend. --Sabrblade (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2015 (EDT)

Optimus Prime

Please stop reverting my edits. Please.

Earth-7642

I thought it wasn't official because it was only in Marvunapp but actually that designation was in one of the Marvel Handbooks.--Primestar3 (talk) 19:53, 11 December 2015 (EST)

It may be official for Marvel, but it's never been stated ANYWHERE else besides that Wikia that the Transformers crossovers was a part of it. Escargon (talk) 19:54, 11 December 2015 (EST)

"It may be official for Marvel" The note started with "In Marvel continuity", the note was basically about the Marvel side of things. Whatever though, I'm just saying.--Primestar3 (talk) 15:21, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

I dunno why you're bringing this back up 2 years later, but having since found the listing in question, literally all the handbook says is that its the one where Spider-Man met Superman. The whole TF things comes from the the Marvel Addendum, and if you actually read the notes on the article, the author said that adding the non-DC stuff to it was just because he felt like it, not that it was actually official. Escargon (talk) 15:27, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

(I just stumbled upon this conversation, that's why I brough it up again) Nevermind I read your post wrong. I thought you meant that while the NAvTF story being part of 7642 may be official for Marvel, it's not official for Transformers (while the note itself was about the Marvel side of things). Sorry for the confusion.--Primestar3 (talk) 15:49, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Kmc

Why did you revert my edit to Dissolution Part 2: Anomie? I think a "sigh" doesn't quit explain things. --Kmc (talk) 21:50, 2 February 2017 (EST)

I think she's either getting at the irrelevance of mentioning the universal stream designation or the lack of clarity in the note about what Rodimus is wrong about. I have added back in a clearer note about Rodimus's recurring idiocy. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 12:23, 4 February 2017 (EST)

List of universal streams

Was there something wrong with adding "our" Quadwal universe to the list? It's on the Quadwal page. If I did something wrong with the formatting, please let me know, I've never added to a wiki page before. FirstStrike1177 (talk) 20:33, 18 December 2017 (EST)

Because it was never called out ever at all in fiction. Escargon (talk) 21:02, 18 December 2017 (EST)

Doesn't he make references to our Quadwal time, just never a specific universe number? "Our reality" is even listed in the Notes on the Quadwal page in this wiki.FirstStrike1177 (talk) 21:08, 18 December 2017 (EST) Would it have been more accurate to put Quadwal Cluster instead of an unknown number since that's what Vector Prime typically says when referring to our universe? I just thought that by Quadwal Cluster he meant most/if not all Quadwal universes.FirstStrike1177 (talk) 21:15, 18 December 2017 (EST)

The notes logically extrapolate that. If the universe wasn't called out, we don't need an article on it. Escargon (talk) 21:46, 18 December 2017 (EST)

I wasn't making an article on it, just noting that we're classified under the Quadwal classification on the list of known universes. If someone hasn't read all of Ask Vector Prime, they don't know that Quadwal is a joke on the fourth wall, and they want to know if our universe even got a classification from Vector Prime (aka me for a good thirty minutes) having it noted that he did in fact say we're of the Quadwal Cluster on the main universe list is a time saver. FirstStrike1177 (talk) 22:19, 18 December 2017 (EST)

What she's trying to say to you is that the list is only for stream designations that have been officially and formally (or as "formally" as they were given like in such cases as "Aurex Something Something" and "Primax yadda-yadda Zeta") given in official Transformers media. We know that our real world exists in the Quadwal Cluster, but it's official stream designation was never actually ever given, meaning that we can't include it in this list at all regardless of our knowing that it does exist anyway. It's the same reason that we don't have stream designations listed for things like the Beast Machines cartoon, the Victory cartoon, any of the live action films after the first one, the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon, or pretty much any piece of Transformers media that isn't on that list. We know that all official Transformers media does exist, but not everything has an official stream designation that has been given by a piece of official Transformers media, and therefore, everything that doesn't have an official stream designation is left out of the list since the list is only for stream designations that have been officially given. Otherwise, we'd have to start making up stream designations for everything, and that's not what this Wiki is supposed to do. Besides, the very first line of description text in the Quadwal section ("A strangely divergent continuity family.") already links out to the article for our real world anyway, so the fact that our real world is represented by/inside the Quadwal Cluster is already indicated by that line of text on the main list page. --Sabrblade (talk) 01:26, 19 December 2017 (EST)

Why?

Please explain why you revert just about everything I contribute on this wiki? I do not understand. At least people who reverse my edits explain. Lucky Hugs (talk) 23:43, 19 December 2017 (EST)

Your edits to the CNN page are written out of universe. They're supposed to be written in universe. And your first couple edits shouldn't be adding captions. Escargon (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Could you please elaborate on the "out of universe" part? What do you mean by "out of universe"? How can I fix it and why didn't YOU fix it? And I do understand the caption part. Lucky Hugs (talk) 00:07, 20 December 2017 (EST)

You're writing it with things like "in Revenge of the Fallen." It's supposed to be written in universe. You shouldn't expect others to fix your mistakes, either. Escargon (talk) 00:14, 20 December 2017 (EST)

I see, but all you had to do was remove a sentence and fix some grammar to fit to that sentence removal. Lucky Hugs (talk) 00:17, 20 December 2017 (EST)

...People have lives outside of editing wikis. I was working, so it was easier at the time to revert your changes. And you're still not correctly formatting it: articles that aren't episode or comic summaries are always written in past tense. Escargon (talk) 00:21, 20 December 2017 (EST)

I conjugated as much as I could see that could be conjugated to the past tense. Lucky Hugs (talk) 00:26, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Grammar

I hadn't really taken a look at any of your synopses before, simply because it's a lot of text. But I glanced over this one and it was just... hard to read.

I'm not a proofreader and I hate feeling like I'm nitpicking or whatever, especially when you're doing such good work and especially when you've put whole orders of magnitude more work into this wiki than me, but it took me over half an hour to comb through this one and fix the errors. I'm still not really happy with how it turned out, because one way or another I have very little formal understanding of grammar and I feel like a lot of things slipped by me. Also, I'm really not sure how much of what's wrong with this synopsis was just carried over from the old version.

Recurring errors:

• Ship names were not italicised.
• Sentences often had far more commas and clauses than they should've - like, there were some extremely long sentences in there that really should have been cut in half.
• Commas were often placed on the wrong side of connectives (i.e. like "I went to the store, and approaching the counter, said hi to the shopkeeper." instead of "I went to the store and, approaching the counter, said hi to the shopkeeper.").
• This is where my lack of formal training comes into play, but you used lots of -ing verb like "turning", "blasting", "running" etc. particularly at the start of sentences. Didn't read right to me, especially if more than one was used in a single sentence.
• Sentence subjects were often unclear, usually as a result of the above errors.

Please carry on doing what you're doing, but maybe take the time to carefully read back what you have both as you finish each sentence, and as you finish each section. If you really don't have time I'll carry on trying to do my best to clean up, because I'd rather see this content up than not at all.

I don't have time to go and check any of the older synopses, but I'd just leave those anyway and carry on with the new content.The Wadapan (talk) 05:54, 5 February 2018 (EST)

Yeah, that wasn't my best summary. It might of been just the general eh-ness of the story, but I'll remember to try and read through in later stuff, since I do know I made a few mistakes in older summaries here and there. Think I'll go over those ones too when I get a chance. Escargon (talk) 06:02, 5 February 2018 (EST)

Thank you, by the way, for fixing that up. Escargon (talk) 09:09, 5 February 2018 (EST)

No problem - like I'm say, I'm happy enough to keep doing it.The Wadapan (talk) 11:51, 5 February 2018 (EST)

Upcoming comic releases

I guess this is mostly towards the upcoming Lost Light issue but I guess it can apply to any other comic really. How come the articles aren't created for the comics until after the issues have been released? To an extent, I get that it might be done because the issues are too far away and they might even end up getting cancelled. That's why for example on Wikipedia, a movie that has only started production and is to be released in like, 3 years, gets a draft rather than an article. But in the case of Lost Light #16, the issue comes out tomorrow. Would it be better to already have at least some of the article ready? Panagiotis Zois (talk) 07:59, 13 March 2018 (EDT)

We have a guy who does all of the articles for the IDW comics on the day they're released. Putting up empty skeleton pages serves no point. Saix (talk) 08:12, 13 March 2018 (EDT)

SG Sludge/Kakuryu/Doryu

Any chance you'd have links to Gauntt's comments on these guys?

(Also, nice work on D&D, very tidy now.) Crossfire 03:14, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Can't access Twitter right now, so I'll have to wait till I get home, but yeah, I can link them. Escargon (talk) 07:34, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Here we are: [1] Escargon (talk) 10:16, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Very interesting, thank you! Do you think we should add this to the D&D page? Crossfire 11:55, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

I'll probably add it to their articles once I get around to creating them (eventually). Escargon (talk) 14:12, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Car Robots names

IS there some reason you're unilaterally changing them now after you didn't discuss it much? Saix (talk) 13:10, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

I'll remind you I had explicit permission from M Sipher. I've been meaning to get around to it, but I've been busy. Escargon (talk) 13:12, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Sipher isn't the only person here and the way you're going around it (leaving some names like Gigatron) makes no sense. Why is this an issue when BWU and IDW have given those characters names that aren't their RID ones? Saix (talk) 13:20, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Sipher is an admin. I only left in Gigatron and the like in as a compromise; I'm fully willing to convert those names as well. As for BWU, it's given characters aside from RID/CR ones different names, and, as stated in the past, is a mish-mash of stuff occupying it's own unique corner, and shouldn't influence pages one way or another. Gigatron's only called that in IDW because of Megatron; practically every other RID character that's show up used the English name. Escargon (talk) 13:26, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Unused images

I've been going through the uncategorized images trying to sort as many as I can into their proper place, and I found a handful of images you uploaded around a year and a half ago that aren't currently being used on any pages. I'm not sure where they're from, so I was hoping you could at least tell me where they came from so I can apply the proper template and put them somewhere until we can figure out what to do with them.

• File:SGSunbow.jpg
• File:Sgtranstech.jpg
• File:SGTransTechAirazor.jpg
• File:TTRhinoxFinalGoodbye.jpg

Thanks much. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 22:59, 17 November 2018 (EST)

...Aw, shit, I never did get around to adding those.

They're from Epilogue Two. Escargon (talk) 18:22, 18 November 2018 (EST)

In defense of NexusShard17

I don't think it's entirely fair to call NexusShard17's work done "for no reason". In the case of the Manatronatee image, he probably removed it because he assumed Saix had tagged it for deletion for good reason, something that I do not believe you caught. In the case of Arcee / Chun-Li, he must have been confused on whether the figure represented Transformer scanning human or the other way around. After all, it's not that hard on this site to get carried away while tackling a tedious set of problems, and Nexus Shard17 does handle a lot of grunt work. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 18:39, 17 December 2018 (EST)

Ah, I see. My apologies. Escargon (talk) 20:21, 17 December 2018 (EST)

Dazlestrike

Excuse me, I'm trying to make a page for Dazlestrike, the Lionizer repaint, but I'm unsure if he's an Autobot or Decepticon. I was wondering if you know what faction he is, if you don't then that's fine. Thanks.--CyclonustheWarrior (talk) 14:38, 29 January 2019 (EST)

Why are you asking them specifically? You should put your question here. --notirishman (talk) 21:57, 29 January 2019 (EST)

Sorry, just thought I'd ask someone at the wiki, however, I honestly do wonder what I was thinking. --CyclonustheWarrior (talk) 14:33, 30 January 2019 (EST)

About the Forged To Fight Windblade stats

Did I not just say they were on every character page? We did it for Transformers: Earth Wars, we're doing it for Forged To Fight, so please stop deleting important Game info. Thanks! Xaapro213 (talk) 20:24, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

You clearly didn't read my edit summary. Escargon (talk) 20:50, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

For 1. You just edited out Important Game Info I got. I was watching some footage of the Earth Wars Campaign Updates, and you just deleted that. For 2. What you're basically asking, is for me to go into every single character page that we've compiled for Battle Tactics, Earth Wars, and Forged To Fight, make a separate SRC page for each game, including Game details, stats, who is strong against who, and what not? Not including all the stuff like Character Growths, Stat bonuses, Rankings, Levels, Star ratings, and whatever else? Because that's basically what I'm getting. Xaapro213 (talk) 20:59, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

Yes.

Character pages are not for those stats. Escargon (talk) 21:09, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

The stats are pointless, unreadable, an absolute eyesore, and not the sort of thing we should keep catalogued on the wiki. We don't keep Tech Spec numbers here, either. It's best to keep each FTF section based on the corresponding stories. --ItsWalky (talk) 21:25, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

That’s fine. That’s ok. Fine by me. This is totally fine. Not like I’ve spent the last 2 years compiling game stats for Forged To Fight, now for it to be rendered completely and utterly pointless. Ok. FIne. Totally fine. Thanks. Xaapro213 (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

There happy now? I Purged every character statistics page and replaced it with a stub. Now I gotta replay every chapter of Forged To Fight's Campaign along with replaying the monthly Legacy series to get Story info! Xaapro213 (talk) 21:53, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

...Did you miss the bit where I said you could copy-paste those on a /src page, separate from the character articles? Escargon (talk) 21:57, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

Hachette covers

>Hey, I don't know if Hachette has used the Dreamwave MTMTE profile for Getaway or Banzai-Tron at all,

>but I can tell you that they were done by Dan Khanna, rather than the usual Guido or Figueroa. Escargon (talk) 19:35, 22 September 2019 (EDT)

I looked over the covers. Which ones were you talking about? I didn't see any covers featuring either of those characters. --MistaTee (talk) 10:20, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

My apologies; I had thought I had seen one for the Mutineer's Arc of Lost Light with Getaway on the cover, but I was mistaken. Escargon (talk) 10:23, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

Gotcha. And were you referring to the Bludgeon art, as opposed to Banzai-tron? --MistaTee (talk) 10:45, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

Nah, I did mean Banzai-Tron; I mentioned him cause he was the only other one Khanna did that got published, and figured it was possible he might show up at some point. 10:53, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

Bruticus

>Hello, I see you reverted my edit. If you could please tell me what differentiates the plot hole I pointed out from the rest of the ones that are allowed to be listed in the continuity errors section, that would be much appreciated, as your comment on the revision could be just as easily applied to any point in any continuity errors section on any page in the wiki. Thanks! Skywarp (talk) 11:39, 29 September 2019 (EDT)Skywarp

Honestly, I think that you're note was fine looking back, it just could have done a bit of paring down. I think a lot of the cartoon sections can have a look over for what really is a continuity error and what isn't. Feel free to re-add it; I'll come back and pare it down a bit later. Apologies for my overly-zealous take down of it. Escargon (talk) 12:08, 29 September 2019 (EDT)

TLK HMS Aliance Bot Robot Mode

Hi I was a bit confused by the response to the removal of my note, just need to clarify my comments on the concept art of the HMS Alliance resembling a scuba diver like Seaspray's ROTF HFTD Voyager figure released in 2010 I think that's when it was. Just in case I should ask to see because I was at first taken aback by there being two concept arts in that book with HMS in their name.

One is on pg. 390 the "HMS Alliance" and I think on pg. 392 or 391 there is another robot mode named HMS Victory. They both look completely different.

I removed the note mostly because I’m waiting for a scan of it to add it to the article. There were also a few things wrong with it and at the time I was at work, so I just removed it. I’ll add it back in and fix it a bit tonight. Escargon (talk) 16:44, 6 December 2019 (EST)

File:RID18 cvrB.jpg

Why'd you change the description for this cover? It's incorrect and I can't undo it. --MistaTee (talk) 23:19, 6 December 2019 (EST)

That was an accident on my part. Never edit the wiki when you're tired. Escargon (talk) 08:53, 7 December 2019 (EST)

Indeed! Thanks. --MistaTee (talk) 10:47, 7 December 2019 (EST)

Question

Thank you for reverting my changes, I'm really new to this wiki and I don't know what goes where. so where do I put the hellion accent?--Applefart 20:50, December 10 (EST)

Probably be best on the notes section of Flywheels' page. Escargon (talk) 21:27, 15 December 2019 (EST)

IDW 2019 #1

The original sentence is both redundant and confusing. It says literally the exact same thing twice - except for listing two different final issues. Why is the longer version better than just picking one of the halves? --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 22:31, 15 February 2020 (EST)

mmmm. Compromise completed. Escargon (talk) 22:38, 15 February 2020 (EST)

Bad decision choices.

You made a bad decision for taking down some of the warrior client files for certain unreleased characters from Transformers Universe. Those were the closest thing to a bio those characters have. StormJet (talk) 14:36, 26 April 2020 (EDT)

You mean the ones that you copied pasted directly from them without even trying to rewrite them in the slightest? You're goddamned right I did.

But hey, since you clearly understood how to search through the history to find out who did so you could come to my talk page and whine all passive-aggressive about it, you can find those things you copy pasted in the history, rewrite them yourself, and then put them back in! Unless that's too much work for the likes of you-oh wait, it clearly is, because you've been told off about it before. Oh well! Guess they'll stay that way until someone fixes it, since you clearly can't! Escargon (talk) 14:43, 26 April 2020 (EDT)

Animated edits.

Hi, terribly sorry, but might I ask why you got rid of the notes I put on Animated Hoist, Lyzack, and Clippers pages? LordCringeTheCringiest (talk) 22:05, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

None of those are canon. Derrick J. Wyatt DID design them, but they're fanart years after the fact. Escargon (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

Fair, sorry about that, I just thought it would be interesting information. LordCringeTheCringiest (talk) 22:22, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

Female Transformers captions

Okay. I just saw a user with very few edits changing captions with no explanation. Still don't like the idea of off site discussions having an impact on the site. Never have, never will. It plays into the "elitist" image some people have of us. --Khajidha (talk) 10:20, 13 July 2020 (EDT)

Steige Category

I see that you undid my change to remove the article Steige from the Fan Terminology category. This page is a simple redirect to Siege. The person who created the page simply said 'because i keep typing it in because i forget it's not its actual name'. Somebody then added it to the fan terminology page.

Given that its just a redirect AND its just because one person keeps misspelling it; I don't believe it should be showing up on the list of fan terms at https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Category:Fan_terminology

If it is a proper fan term then there should be an article about it; not just a redirect.

I've made my changes again. Elleby (talk) 00:25, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

Sentinel Zeta Prime doesn't exist

I hereby discharge you from duty. TransformersFan00 (talk 10:54, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Prime Problem Audio error

So when Megatron ordered Laserbeak ejected which was “Soundwave Eject Laserbeak Target Optimus Prime” the “Target” part he said sounded more like an Ironhide voice than Megatron voice before it was back to normal in the “Optimus Prime” part. Did I clear up enough for you to understand? Nelspeedracer (talk)

...so? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 23:04, 12 September 2020 (EDT)

So how are fiction sections written if they can't be detailed?

I write up a partial, almost completed stub about Mirage and you ERASE it? There's just as much detail there as any other genre/history of his character as mine. I literally wrote all the parts he was involved with in his initial appearance. It's his fictional story. What else? I'm just learning to hyperlink things in a wiki, cut me a break. I'm trying. How about instead of deleting the whole thing, you just edit it to fit instead? I thought this is supposed to be a contributing wiki, not a "sorry, I don't like what you wrote" wiki. You gotta give me more than one day to learn this stuff. Jeezus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MirageX (talk • contribs).

It is not our job to make your writing fit our style guide, it's yours. Help:Style_guide --Riptide (talk) 20:47, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Looking at what you wrote, the main pieces of advice needed here are: 1) Character histories are written in the past tense. 2) They are also written "in-universe," ie: the text should not contain sentences like "in episode X." That's what storylinks are for, added to the end of sentences/paragraphs to identify the media in which the action described occurs. 3) Keep things tight. Write a general overview of the events, not a beat-for-beat description of everything in a scene. Not every single action or line of dialogue is worthy of being noted. This a good rule of thumb for any "handbook" or "fact file" style writing, but it's sadly something that many, many fan wikis don't do, favouring detail over readability. - Chris McFeely (talk) 21:16, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

SG TransTech Megatron

But in the main picture, you can barely tell his colors and his body is obscured. The other image shows his full color composition.--Primestar3 (talk) 21:58, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

It's not a good image if the one you upload is 400 pixels wide and you can barely tell what's going on. If you can upload a bigger picture, then go ahead. Escargon (talk) 22:05, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

Azrael & Grimlock

May I ask why my edit was remove, I saw the 'Absolutely not', but can you please expand on that, I'm new here and need to know why on these matters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Azrael (talk • contribs).

Welcome to the wiki! Your edit was reverted because characters' intro sections should generally focus on their personality, rather than physical attributes like their alt-mode or weapons (as these can often vary quite a lot between stories). See Help:Example character article for more details about how those type of pages are handled on the wiki. Jalaguy (talk) 14:03, 8 November 2020 (EST)

Thank you for the input, and what I was trying to achievement is what that character in general has across stories, toys, official bio ect for weapons and ability. On an another note, I'm planning once I learn the image input system to put in the official bios form G1, Dreamwave, and IDW as a means to achieved what I text above and to help spread official information given to us, any thoughts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Azrael (talk • contribs).

Those kind of wide-sweeping changes to what the wiki puts on character articles would need to be discussed among the userbase beforehand – I would suggest starting a discussion on the Community Portal to see if there's consensus for your ideas. Jalaguy (talk) 17:48, 8 November 2020 (EST)

We also generally frown on just straight-up whole-cloth copying the official material outside of special circumstances. The rare instances are usually when we are archiving data for potentially "lost" media, or an English translation of a massive information source you can't find on a billion other websites (such as the G1 timeline found in the Japanese Kiss Players compilation). We are not, by and large, that kind of archive site. --M Sipher (talk) 19:05, 8 November 2020 (EST)

Ok thank your for your impute.

Kickback

Why not tho? The artist says it is professional work. Primestar3 (talk) 14:30, 14 November 2020 (EST)--

Because the bulldozer has absolutely nothing to do with the grasshopper. Escargon (talk) 14:34, 14 November 2020 (EST)

BotCon info

I have the BotCon info you requested. PM me on Discord when you get the chance so I can send it to you. Fanofcoolstuff27 (talk) 20:19, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Revolution reissues revisions

Why did you revert my changes to the Revolution issue reprints? For miniseries, to avoid excess content (and having to make a change on each issue if one thing is changed for a collection), we have been listing them in this manner. Reason being, suppose yet another collection includes the full Revolution story comes out. Why add that to each individual issue? Now if some collection only includes ONE issue of the series, that collection can be mentioned on the issue's page. See Infiltration issue 6 for example.--MistaTee (talk) 20:30, 22 February 2021 (EST)

I just don't think there's anything wrong with fully listing out stuff. It might be repetitious but I think if someone is looking for a specific issue and where it's collected it's better to have all of it on one page. Escargon (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2021 (EST)

Well, it's the way we've been doing them for many many series, so I'm going to change them back. --MistaTee (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2021 (EST)

Technobots Selects

What you're suggesting is an entirely different standard from how fiction is typically recorded on this Wiki. The general policy has never been to do this. When a Combiner appears in a story without disassembling, only the Combiner is recorded as an appearance on the issue/episode pages. The individual fiction pages also reflect this. It would be necessary to begin a major undertaking going back through every piece of fiction on this Wiki to adjust to the standard you are suggesting. I know off-hand the limbs of Defensor, Menasor, and Bruticus are not recorded separately in Selects, except for one or two who appear as individuals. You'll find the same thing for Energon era Combiner limb sections. Furthermore, Nosecone, Lightspeed, and Afterburner do not even appear on panel in Super Megatron comic 1 -- you can see Computron's head and upper chest (Scattershot) and his left arm (Strafe). Fiction sections also have never recorded off-panel cameos like that. --Xaaron (talk) 14:06, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

I'm going to work, so I can't respond to this in depth, but I absolutely think that it should be said in some format. In any case: [2] Escargon (talk) 14:12, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

I've given up on influencing policy on the Wiki. I am just pointing out that, if that's the standard you want from the Fiction sections, they currently do not function that way. Another example is the Prime Wars Trilogy cartoons -- The Dinobots appear separately from Volcanicus, so they all have Fiction sections. However, Predaking, Victorion, Devastator, Menasor, and Computron also appear throughout the series. Of those 27 Combiner components, only 5 have Fiction sections, because only 5 appeared as separated limbs / vehicle modes. --Xaaron (talk) 14:28, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

I (somewhat obviously) agree with Escargon, while it's probably overkill, say, from episode to episode in a given cartoon, I would certainly say it's noteworthy enough to proliferate to the rest of the subgroup when the combiner is their only appearance in a given setting. -AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 14:58, 30 July 2021 (EDT)

Armada Reference

Hey, isn't the comment about not trusting someone as far as they can throw them a reference? Here: https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Detection&action=history Octane's original bio went something among the lines of Megatron not trusting him as far as he could throw Devastator. It is very similar with Demolisher's comment on Thrust Tylerwu (talk) 15:09, 30 November 2021 (EST)

No, because that is a normal phrase that people in real life use. Escargon (talk) 15:39, 30 November 2021 (EST)

Blackout vs Grindor

"absolutely not." is kinda vague, I'm gonna need you to elaborate.

Getting to my main point though, I'm not trying to say that The two helicopters are the same guy, (Hasbro themselves have confirmed otherwise) but I really think that it deserves mention in some capacity that Grindor is rusted to shit and has broken components that are rather visible if you pay attention. Blackout was the only other con shown (in the film, anyway) to be dumped into the abyss with Megatron. given that the writer's strike was also going on, Grindor being a revived Blackout at some early point is a possibility, albeit an unconfirmed one.

I understand that correlation =/= causation.

The reason I'm so hellbent on getting this across is that these details are hardly mentioned (if at all) on Grindor's article.

Furthermore, it's an interesting footnote.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but it's something that I passionately think deserves at least some kind of attention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Banannixx (talk • contribs).

I only reverted you because it was done once already. If you can provide proof of your claims, than do so on the talk page, but otherwise, I think what you say is a massive stretch at best. Escargon (talk) 18:42, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Big Daddy (SG)

Look I know the design of Big Daddy (Movie) in Memory’s Splinter that was not that figure. It was larger G1 Micromaster Big Dady. I can’t get a hold of the artist but I know he’d say the same thing I have. 6Rocket-Jet0 (talk) 11:10, 28 February 2022 (EST)

As drawn in the comic he still has the Wheeljack style grilled mouthplate, the blog behind Movie Big Daddy's head from his engine, and the weapons of Movie Big Daddy. The artist's style is such that he just makes designs simplified. Sorry, but you are just straight up wrong. Escargon (talk) 11:16, 28 February 2022 (EST)

Legacy Burn Out

Hadn't seen the livestream myself, so I wasn't aware they'd been explicit about the gender there. Only knew Road Rocket had been referred to as female because of the notes, so I thought noting the change was relevant. I added a note to the bottom of the page explaining that the description contains an error instead. I figure people who look it up and see the product description and then see the Wiki entry might be potentially confused about the discrepancy.Tjfosko (talk) 10:43, 22 July 2022 (EDT)

Shattered Glass profiles

Locoman on the discord has confirmed can harmonize the bios to reflect both the FunPub stories so they can be more continuity neutral. If you have ways you'd prefer to edit the bios I'm happy to work with you, but otherwise I'd appreciate if you didn't just revert my edits TransFormersfan1 (talk) 12:36, 31 October 2022 (EDT)

Warning

I'm going to be perfectly blunt: you were moments away from getting blocked for a week due to your behavior on the Sideways talk page before I talked things down to a warning. That's not going to happen twice. Regardless of your past contributions, you have had a history of combative behavior with others, including staff, and it has reached a point where other active editors have become actively discouraged from editing because of it. Writing up AVP does not give you ownership of those articles or how it is interpreted or portrayed, nor does it give you the right to overrule or invalidate others' opinions. In fact, it could be argued that because you wrote for the column, working on those articles constitutes a conflict of interest. I respect the work you've done for the wiki up to this point, but you need to get yourself in check and watch your attitude going forward, or else you will be looking at block time, and if it continues, I can’t guarantee it’ll stay temporary. Please take some time to cool down before resuming editing. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 13:24, 13 December 2022 (EST)

There's not going to be any further problems because I'm stepping back from this place/taking a hiatus until such a point in the future comes where that changes. Escargon (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2022 (EST)

Godzilla GIF

We happen to have that GIF present on The Champ page, so... should it still be there? And should we have this GIF deleted? MrBeastie87 (talk) 10:21, 25 January 2023 (CDT)

Alright, well, there, it is very specifically representing one of the references the episode makes to a real-world thing. It's not for the Godzilla page itself because it is not a Transformers image. Escargon (talk) 11:28, 25 January 2023 (EST)

I don't think it needs something like that if it happens to be a very well-known moment, so with or without it, I think most people would know which specific moment that is referring to. Besides, I think it would make more sound if we simply cited a video on YouTube that has the dropkick moment from the movie, instead of relying on a GIF that has no relation to Transformers.

Also a little off-topic, but doesn't the Spock page have a screen capture that has not a Transformers image? Like, why use that if we could've just cropped a panel featuring him from the Star Trek vs. Transformers crossover? MrBeastie87 (talk) 10:50, 25 January 2023 (CDT)

Wheelie was watching that specific scene in Dark of the Moon. It's visible on the TV screen. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 11:58, 25 January 2023 (EST)

Ah, okay. I figured that's why. I may've forgotten about that moment, lol. MrBeastie87 (talk) 11:01, 25 January 2023 (CDT)

Final warning

After much discussion among the mod team following the latest incident (here) of overly-aggressive behavior towards another user, you are being given your final warning. Any other instance where a moderator needs to step in will result in a permanent ban not only from TFwiki, but from its sister wikis as well. This has come from discussion of multiple instances of being needlessly combative with other users over a long period of time, and many chances to change your behavior. --M Sipher (talk) 16:33, 16 July 2024 (EDT)