Pompyxmori

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! --Vahag (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi. I cannot find this anywhere. Where did you get it? --Vahag (talk) 09:45, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's a Western Armenian construction particular to the Istanbul Armenian dialect. It's a cute colloquialism formed from the Armenian word հոս and the turkish stem "-iken (-իքէն)". Although in Turkish any verb can take the stem, in Istanbul Armenian, there are only a handful: հոսիքէն, կայիքէն, չիկայիքէն, երթալնիքէն, գալնիքէն. Due to the paucity of this construction, I argue that these forms should be lexicalized. Since there are many Eastern Armenian colloquialisms on Wiktionary, I thought there should be more attention spent on Western Armenian. — This unsigned comment was added by Pompyxmori (talk • contribs).

I am the only Armenian contributor of this website, and I don't know Western Armenian. I can dig in the literature and occasionally add some stuff, but I will ignore most requests for Western Armenian. If you want to promote your variety here, you will have to contribute yourself. --Vahag (talk) 10:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Բարեւ! Մինակ կ'ուզէի քեզի բարեւ ըսել :) Hovsepig (talk) 23:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Նմանապէս. Ձեր կայքէջը պատառ մը ուսումնասիրելէ ետք, ըսել կ՚ուզեմ որ խիստ հետաքրքրական է ձեր լեզուաբանական մասնագիտութիւնը։Pompyxmori (talk) 21:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Pompyxmori: մերսի շատ :D ես ալ հետաքրքրուած եմ ձեր մասին -- ամեն օր չէ պոլսահայ մը կը գիտնամ որ լեզուասէր մըն է :D Hovsepig (talk) 22:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Միայն թէ պոլսածին չեմ։ Նիւեորքաբնակ երիտասարդ մըն եմ. տունը «խօսակցական» (թրքախառն) հայերէն կը խօսինք։ Իմ մասնաւոր հետաքրքրութիւնը հոգելեզուաբանութիւն եւ մանկական մշակութային-մտահայեացային զարգացում (psycholinguistics and child cultural-conceptual development)։ Pompyxmori (talk) 14:24, 9 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Pompyxmori lol hi irl. Hovsepig (talk) 02:46, 9 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

That's a big word (thanks for providing the English translation otherwise I wouldn't get it :P) That's cool about your origins :D

Hiya @Pompyxmori I just wanted to verify, did you mean that you still speak the dialect that's described in Adjarian's "Քննություն Պոլսահայ բարբառի" book? I can email you a PDF of it if you don't have it. The main features of that dialect was like դուռ is pronounced like [dur], and causatives are -ցունել. Based on what I heard from linguists from Istanbul, I was told that the Istanbul population shifted to speaking standard western, so I’m curious to have a better sense of the kind of dialect that you speak Hovsepig (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Hovsepig I misspoke. In the phonological sense, the object of study for most dialectologists, the Bolis dialect is non-existent to the mercy of SWA. On the flip side, the Adjarian's 1902 lexicon is still in use, and its crystallized pronunciation reflects Ottoman-influenced Turkish rather than its contemporary counterpart. However, call me crazy, there are still micro differences between SWA speakers of Beirut and Istanbul, to the extent where I can tell them apart. Also, there is a new SWA accent among younger speakers in Bolis, where stress patterns have started to look more Turkish. For example, Armenian surnames typically have stress on the ultimate syllable, but this has drifted towards the penultimate syllable: e.g. Esayán to Esáyan. Pompyxmori (talk) 15:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oh that sounds fun to know about :D Hovsepig (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Pompyxmori Hi again! I saw your reply and I'd be really interested to hear what you know about Ramgoren (because I don't know anything about it). I would especially be interested to hear what kinds of phono changes you've noticed :D Feel free to email me with a bucket of info (email on my site on my user page) because I'm super interested :D Hovsepig (talk) 02:09, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply