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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 15

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 15, 2024.

Stray (film)

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 1#Stray (film)

Code phrase

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 1#Code phrase

7777

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The result of the discussion was delete. asilvering (talk) 23:46, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target, page history shows that this can also refer to You Only Live Twice (novel). 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Feel status minus Actual status Inconsistency

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#Feel status minus Actual status Inconsistency

Texvc

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#Texvc

T:WPMHA

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 5#T:WPMHA

T:QB

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author request. plicit 12:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only has one incoming link. A shortcut to the quote box template does not need frequent access, as it isn't necessary for regular maintenance of the project. With the new template alias, TM:QB is a sufficient shortcut for navigating to this template. Utopes (talk / cont) 21:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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T:TRACKLIST

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) (non-admin closure). Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The T: pseudo-namespace is not something that can be used by any template. Pages with this prefix are located in mainspace alongside articles, so usage of the T: space should be limited to pages which are frequently accessed.

In May 2024, the "TM" alias was created to easily access templatespace titles, which further diminishes the need of having T: space titles at all. This page was created in June 2024, and does not have a substantially strong need to exist. T: space titles are primarily used for quick access to templates required for the maintenance of the project; this new title is not one. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"Beevor, Anthony"

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:UNNATURAL punctuation; Beevor, Anthony was redirected around the same time to the same page by the same user. Created in error? 1234qwer1234qwer4 16:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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January 3, 2003

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#January 3, 2003

26, November, 2006

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#26, November, 2006

16 August 2006

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 4#16 August 2006

Swimming at the 2022 Summer Youth Olympics

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (talk) 20:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Event moved to 2026. So this redirect is no longer needed. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to sort this out (for myself, at least): In 2020, a user (Dinnerbrone) created a redirect for (only) swimming at the 2022 SYO event to point to the 2022 SYO page, but then, due to COVID-19, the event (swimming and archery and everything else) was rescheduled to 2026. Our 2022 SYO article was renamed over a redirect in January 2021, at which point a bot came by to fix the double redirect.
I'm somewhat confused because I don't see why the redirect was particularly helpful in the first place, and it seems that's the only sport for which that user created a redirect. I thought there would be a slew of other redirects to deal with, but I do not find that to be the case. So, I'm agreeing with nominator: delete; nobody's going to be looking for one activity at an event that (although planned) never even happened. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 17:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - useful at {{Swimming at the Summer Youth Olympics}} which has entries for 2010, 2014 and 2018. It is natural for 2022 to be there, given that it is in the past, and it cannot be a redlink. The target explains what happened, and in two years time there may be specific content about swimming. Or when a swimming page is created for 2026, the redirect may be retargeted there. Jay 💬 16:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Jay. It was planned to occur in 2022, so there will be sources about it being planned to happen in 2022 that people will look up. We have content that explains it did not happen in 2022, and why. That other events don't have redirects is irrelevant. Thryduulf (talk) 19:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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January 1, 2003

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 8#January 1, 2003

List of Dota 2 heroes

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#List of Dota 2 heroes

7 October 2023

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The result of the discussion was retarget to 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel. Legoktm (talk) 00:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

We do not redirect dates to portalspace. For the infinite dates in history that could have redirects, only this one targets portalspace. Of the two described major events that occurred on this date, Operation Al-Aqsa Flood has 132,000 monthly pageviews while 2023 Herat earthquakes has 1,000 monthly pageviews, and at the time this was discussed that was considered the only other major event of note. This is a likely search term and should have a mainspace target, as all other date redirects do. Utopes (talk / cont) 14:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies about the blanket statement; I've since been proven wrong about that. 1234qwer's assessment revealed 5 other dates which are redirecting to portal space, which have been nominated above. (In fact, the only reason why I said there were no others, was because you went through the correct diligence & proper rcatting during the previous RfD, and correctly labeled this one as a "redirect to portal space". 😅 This made it the first item in Category:Redirects to portal space, the category I came across, and the only item which is a date in this category. Hence my belief that this was the only one, and that if we DID target individual dates to portal space, there'd be a precedent populating here. So thank you for the correct rcat 🙏). The blanket statement was therefore premature because there were other dates that were, but were NOT tagged with the rcat.
I did not intend on nominating October 7, 2023, October 7 2023, or Oct 7, 2023. I agree that these should all have the same target, but the primary purpose of this nomination was to identify a target outside of portal space, which could be for the attack, or for 2023#October if people are divided on this point. But I do think "retargeting this to 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel to match the targets of the other redirects for this date" is a suitable outcome. I don't have a concern with the others, as they target mainspace titles at this moment.
This is likely going to be a start of a larger movement towards how we deal with date redirects on Wikipedia, as there are a number of inconsistencies between different targets for different formats of the same date. At the very least, I intend on categorizing all of them in the next couple months, depending on how big of a project it is. There's a lot of inconsistencies between different date formats targeting different titles with seemingly little difference between. An example is January 6th, 2021 and January 6 2021 having different targets, which I just stumbled across. This is certainly a problem, but I don't know how widespread this problem is, and how many dates this effects, so I don't intend to do too many at once for these. Another example is how January 2, 2003 targets Portal space, but January 3, 2003 does not; also an inconsistency which I hope can be addressed soon. But in the meantime, if there is a suitable mainspace title that can be identified for the portal-space CNRs, that would make the subsequent discussions a bit more streamlined, I'd imagine.
To answer your original question @Tamzin:, I won't object to anyone adding October 7, 2023 and the others to this nomination if anyone'd like. But for me personally, I don't have an immediate problem with their current targets, at this current time. I'll likely be going back through every date redirect that exists all at once, based on some pre-created criteria, to do some type of en-masse nomination & discussion, but I wasn't thinking about that right now. If you think it WOULD be beneficial to have those dates in this RfD, that works for me and I can get those added, but yea I wasn't originally going to. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I've created a new rcat, for {{R from date}}, which is designed for redirects consisting of a specific date, and point to an event or a description of one or more events, which discuss the date. I'll add a few to the rcat for now (mainly because a lot of these dates may not be discussed at their current targets, and may or may not stick around for long). But hopefully, this rcat allows for a more manageable look over all of the date redirects that currently exist on Wikipedia, which there is a large amount of, and can assist with recognition and maintenance of the date redirects we have at this time. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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MOS:NDASH: other uses

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 13:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upon the transition to a dedicated MOS namespace, this is not how we do MOS redirects. Mixed caps makes this unlikely, MOS:NDASHOTHER exists (& the anchor is broken for both of which, but WP:NDASH works). For a shortcut which is generally meant to be swift, it wouldn't be plausible for someone to start typing the shortcut in all-caps, place a colon, and switch to spaced-out lowercase. Utopes (talk / cont) 13:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a long, non-standard, and redundant shortcut (with an average of one pageview every 2 months). jlwoodwa (talk) 15:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as long and unwieldy, making it fundamentally useless. If we keep this I might have to create the redirect WP:SHORT: How to use a WP shortcut that's short and easy to use. In any case, as Nom mentions, the current shortcut doesn't even lead the user, fatigued from having entered the "shortcut", to the place we're supposedly leading them. So the redirect is useless and then unhelpful. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 16:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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.Albizia chinensis

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Page is deleted. (non-admin closure) Utopes (talk / cont) 21:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created in error; moved away from this title a minute after creation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2022 Surat building collapse

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 13:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the target article was created by mistake with this name and then moved. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – The article was only at this (incorrect) title for 1 hour before being moved away. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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European Hollywood

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 13:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of Hollywood at the target, and this is by far not the only studio that has been dubbed that. 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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March 27 Movement

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention in the target page. Only one hit online, but that might be a mistake/typo. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Footman Frenzy

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#Footman Frenzy

Standard for the Andalusian Language

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 24#Standard for the Andalusian Language

Online education

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 6#Online education

Speako

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wikt:speako. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 08:02, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

seems to refer to speech errors in general, and not just spoonerisms. opinions? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to wikt:speako, which is indeed defined as a mistake made when speaking, and not a spoonerism in particular. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The game (the game)

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 29#The game (the game)

Master Levels

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 27#Master Levels

Hastings East (Vancouver)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Hastings Street (Vancouver). Jay 💬 09:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention at target. Could refer to East Hastings, or to a more general neighbourhood/area as in [1]. Thoughts? Cremastra (talk) 21:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: No plausible target has been provided yet for this redirect…
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Hastings Street (Vancouver) as an {{R avoided double redirect}} per Cremastra; seems plausible enough. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Operation Dryfront

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 28#Operation Dryfront

Upper chest

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The result of the discussion was keep. asilvering (talk) 23:43, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Specific concept in question as such not detailed in given target. Hildeoc (talk) 08:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Klein (businessman) (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G14. plicit 23:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Sam H.

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 10:48, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created by now blocked sockpuppet. Title is too ambiguous to direct to any article or existing DAB page, nor suitable as a DAB page in its own right. Bungle (talkcontribs) 09:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Taking a look at Special:PrefixIndex/Sam H, this is massively ambiguous, and I don't know of any precedent or particular reason for disambiguating these kinds of titles. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also note that neither Sam Houston nor Google search results suggest that "Sam H." is commonly used to refer to Sam Houston. jlwoodwa (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Draft:2023 Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 24#Draft:2023 Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup

Brian de Regt

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, unless there is an appropriate local target for this page. Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful. Additionally, the plain {{soft redirect}} template is not used in the mainspace (WP:SOFTSP). See here for precedents. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 05:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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