Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solid State Records

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. Whether it should be kept outright or merged can be addressed via a merge discussion, but it's clear that we have no consensus to delete this article. asilvering (talk) 21:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect, or selectively merge into Tooth & Nail Records. It was disputed by one editor and reverted, thus seeking community input. The imprint itself doesn't satisfy WP:NCORP and not fit to have a standalone article. Graywalls (talk) 19:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Entertainment, Companies, and Washington. Graywalls (talk) 19:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or Merge. The nominator himself doesn't argue for deletion, and if a merge is desired, that is typically handled through the use of the merge template; there's no reason that this needed to go through AfD. The label clearly meets the sense of one of the more important indies as described in WP:MUSIC, and as the article's sources already demonstrate, it routinely gets coverage in the music press (which makes sense, since it has had several dozen notable artists signed to it). Since this is a sublabel of Tooth & Nail, I'm not terribly picky over whether it is merged into the parent label article or not, but since we very clearly wouldn't want a redlink here, I don't understand why this discussion was even opened. Chubbles (talk) 12:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Record labels are not evaluated under WP:NMUSIC. We've been through this discussion a million times. This article is uanble to satisfy NCORP to have its own standalone article. Graywalls (talk) 23:14, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  We certainly have been through this discussion a million times, and it doesn't change the fact that NCORP doesn't make any more sense as an evaluative tool for labels as it would for bands (which are nearly all for-profit corporations). I am as tired of arguing about this as you are. Chubbles (talk) 07:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Take it to Village Pump if you want to see "record labels" classified into a different bin of SNG. Until consensus grants a change, it remains under NORG/NCORP. @Chubbles:, you said don't understand why this discussion was even opened. I would have been happy with the re-direct I made or re-targeting. This is the reason it ended up here for further discussion. Graywalls (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What in this particular case, would satisfy the NCORP criteria? I am aware of sources, primarily interviews, that cover the origins and history of Solid State Records. I would be willing to dedicate some time to adding that history if that would benefit the article and this conversation. Metalworker14 (talk) 14:31, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Metalworker14: It's explained in depth at WP:NCORP. Amateur interviews and podcasts do not count whatsoever. Contents from interview that come things said by company/band personnel do not count towards notability, because that's not in-depth independent coverage. Please ask after having fully read the guidelines. Graywalls (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep or Merge. Subject is a long-lasting indie label, seeking to delete because coverage is primarily discussed in context of their signing seems silly, and actively making Wikipedia less valuable as a resource. The notability of releases from this label should contribute, not sure what we could ever find to make a label notable in the eyes of those who wish to delete. glman (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  not sure what we could ever find to make a label notable in the eyes of those who wish to delete I mean, Motown has multiple books written about it. More reasonably, Warp Records comes to mind as an example of a WP:NCORP-meeting indie label. Mach61 17:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We are hovering between Keep and Merge but those are two very different outcomes. I can say that, at this point, this article is safe from Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.