George Vincent Gilligan Jr. (born February 10, 1967) is an American screenwriter, producer, and director. He is best known as the creator, primary writer, executive producer, and occasional director of the AMC crime drama series Breaking Bad (2008–2013) and its spin-off prequel series Better Call Saul (2015–2022). He also wrote, directed, and produced the Breaking Bad sequel film El Camino (2019).
Vince Gilligan | |
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 Gilligan in May 2018 | |
| Born | George Vincent Gilligan Jr. February 10, 1967 Richmond, Virginia, U.S. |
| Alma mater | New York University (BFA) |
| Occupations |
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| Years active | 1992–present |
| Spouse |
Holly Rice (m. 1991) |
Gilligan's other work includes writing, directing, and producing some episodes of the Fox science fiction series The X-Files (1993–2002) and co-creating its spin-off series The Lone Gunmen (2001), as well as co-writing the screenplay for the superhero film Hancock (2008). He has won four Primetime Emmy Awards, six Writers Guild of America Awards, two Critics' Choice Television Awards, two Producers Guild of America Awards, a Directors Guild of America Award, and a BAFTA Television Award.
Early life
editGeorge Vincent Gilligan Jr. was born in Richmond, Virginia, on February 10, 1967,[1] the son of grade school teacher Gail and insurance claims adjuster George Vincent Gilligan Sr.[2] He was raised Catholic but would later describe himself as "pretty much agnostic".[3] His parents divorced in 1974. He and his younger brother Patrick were raised in Farmville and Chesterfield County, where they attended J.P. Wynne Campus School, the laboratory school run by Longwood College where their mother also taught; Gilligan would later use the J.P. Wynne name for the fictional high school where Walter White teaches in Breaking Bad.[1][4][5]
Growing up, Gilligan became best friends with future film editor and film title designer Angus Wall. His interest in film began when Wall's mother Jackie, who also taught alongside Gilligan's mother at J.P. Wynne, would lend her Super 8 film cameras to him. He used the camera to make science fiction films with Patrick.[6] One of his first films was entitled Space Wreck, starring Patrick in the lead role. One year later, he won first prize for his age group in a film competition at the University of Virginia.[1] Jackie would take Wall and Gilligan to Richmond and drop them off at Cloverleaf Mall to see films, encouraging both of them to pursue a career in the arts. Gilligan later said, "I wouldn't be where I am today if it weren't for Jackie. She was a wonderful lady and a real inspiration."[6]
Gilligan was recognized for his talents and creativity at an early age. His father described him as a "kind of a studious-type young man, and he liked to read, and he had a vivid imagination". He introduced Gilligan to film noir classics, as well as John Wayne and Clint Eastwood Westerns on late-night television.[6] Gilligan won a scholarship to attend the prestigious Interlochen Center for the Arts. After eighth grade, he moved back to Chesterfield to attend Lloyd C. Bird High School.[1] After graduating from Lloyd C. Bird High School in 1985, he went on to attend NYU's Tisch School of the Arts on a scholarship, receiving a BFA in film production.[7] While at NYU, he wrote the screenplay for Home Fries and received the Virginia Governor's Screenwriting Award in 1989 for the screenplay, which was later turned into a film.[4] One of the judges of the competition was film producer Mark Johnson, who was impressed by Gilligan and called him "the most imaginative writer" he had ever read.[6] Gilligan also studied holography under Jason Sapan at Holographic Studios in New York City.[8]
Career
editThe X-Files and The Lone Gunmen
editGilligan's big break came when he joined the Fox television drama The X-Files. Gilligan was a fan of the show, and submitted a script to Fox which became the second-season episode "Soft Light".[9] He went on to write 29 more episodes, in addition to being co-executive producer of 44 episodes, executive producer of 40, co-producer of 24, and supervising producer of 20. He also co-created and became executive producer of The X-Files spin-off series The Lone Gunmen. The series only ran for one season of 13 episodes.
Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul and El Camino
editGilligan created, wrote, directed, and produced the AMC drama series Breaking Bad. He created the series with the premise that the hero would become the villain. "Television is historically good at keeping its characters in a self-imposed stasis so that shows can go on for years or even decades", he said. "When I realized this, the logical next step was to think, how can I do a show in which the fundamental drive is toward change?"[10] He added that his goal with Walter White was to turn him from "Mr. Chips into Scarface".[11] While pitching the show to studios, Gilligan was initially discouraged when he learned of the existing series Weeds and its similarities to the premise of Breaking Bad. While his producers convinced him that the show was different enough to still be successful, he later stated that he would not have gone forward with the idea had he known about Weeds earlier.[12]
Breaking Bad received widespread critical acclaim and has been praised by many critics as being among the greatest television dramas of all time.[10] Gilligan has been awarded numerous times for writing, directing, and producing the series. The Writers Guild of America has awarded him four times in straight succession, from 2012 to 2014; three as a part of the Breaking Bad writing team and one individually for writing the episode "Box Cutter".[13][14][15] He also received two Primetime Emmys in 2013 and 2014 for producing the show. In 2014, he won the Directors Guild of America Award for Outstanding Directing in a Drama Series for directing the finale of Breaking Bad, "Felina".[16]
In September 2013, Sony Pictures Television announced a deal with AMC to produce a Breaking Bad spin-off prequel entitled Better Call Saul, to focus on character Saul Goodman from the original series, before he became Walter White's lawyer, and to star Bob Odenkirk reprising his role as the title character.[17] Gilligan co-created the series with Breaking Bad writer Peter Gould, with both of them acting as showrunners. The first episode, which Gilligan directed and co-wrote, premiered on February 8, 2015.[18] He would leave the Better Call Saul writing staff early in the third season to focus on other projects, resulting in Gould becoming sole showrunner. This transition had been planned since the show's debut.[19] Gilligan remained involved in Better Call Saul's production in a reduced role, directing episodes in the fourth and fifth seasons, before returning to the writers room in the sixth.[20][21][22]
In July 2018, it was announced that Gilligan had agreed to stay with Sony TV on a new three-year deal.[23] His deal via his High Bridge Productions company was renewed in 2021.[24]
Gilligan quietly developed the script for El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie, which wraps up the story of Jesse Pinkman following the events of "Felina", Breaking Bad's finale, ahead of the show's tenth anniversary. Gilligan subsequently led its direction and filming. The movie was released in a limited theatrical screening and on Netflix in October 2019.[25]
Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and El Camino, along with various short-form web series associated with these series, have been described informally by the shows' staff and fans as the "Gilliverse".[26] Following the broadcast run of Better Call Saul, Gilligan said he does not plan to create any more works related to Breaking Bad.[27]
Battle Creek
editIn September 2013, Sony struck a deal with CBS to produce a new television series created by Gilligan and David Shore entitled Battle Creek. Based on a script written by Gilligan ten years prior, the show follows the partnership of two police detectives who must compete with a seemingly-perfect FBI agent. Gilligan co-wrote the first episode with Shore, the showrunner of the series.[28] CBS ordered thirteen episodes and the series aired on CBS starting March 1, 2015.[29] CBS decided not to renew the series for a second season.[30]
Wycaro
editAfter Better Call Saul finished its run, Gilligan worked on a new show, a science fiction genre piece that has been compared to The X-Files and The Twilight Zone.[31] The show, Wycaro, received a two-season order from Apple TV+ in September 2022, with confirmation that Rhea Seehorn, who played Kim Wexler on Better Call Saul, would be in a starring role.[32][33]
Other work
editFilm
editGilligan first had a screenplay produced in 1993 for the romantic comedy film Wilder Napalm. While working on The X-Files, one of Gilligan's early screenplays was produced in 1998 as a film, Home Fries, which starred Drew Barrymore and Luke Wilson.[34] He also rewrote the screenplay for the 2008 Will Smith film Hancock, which was originally written by Vincent Ngo.[35]
Television
editGilligan was hired by The X-Files creator Chris Carter to be a consulting producer on his new series Harsh Realm. After The X-Files, Gilligan wrote an episode of the short lived police procedural series Robbery Homicide Division and an episode of the ABC series Night Stalker. Gilligan made his acting debut in 2014 in "VCR Maintenance and Educational Publishing", the ninth episode of the fifth season of NBC's comedy series Community. He plays a cheesy actor hosting "Pile of Bullets", a fictional 1990s VCR-based video game.[36]
Unrealized projects
editIn 2007, Gilligan and fellow The X-Files producer Frank Spotnitz wrote a sci-fi pilot entitled A.M.P.E.D., which was not picked up for a full series.
In 2016, it was announced that Gilligan would be developing an HBO limited miniseries about Jim Jones and the 1978 Jonestown tragedy. The series would be based on the 1982 non-fiction book Raven, and would be co-produced by Octavia Spencer and Gilligan's longtime collaborator Michelle MacLaren.[37] However, in 2018, Gilligan said that he had slowed down on developing the project.[38]
Personal life
editGilligan married Holly Rice in 1991.[2][39] They have no children.
Raised Catholic, he identifies as an atheist. Gilligan has proclaimed that he finds it "hard to wrap my head around it (atheism)".
Filmography
editFilm
edit| Year | Title | Director | Writer | Producer | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1993 | Wilder Napalm | No | Yes | No | |
| 1998 | Home Fries | No | Yes | No | |
| 2008 | Hancock | No | Yes | No | Co-written with Vincent Ngo |
| 2019 | El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Television
edit| Year | Title | Creator | Director | Writer | Executive producer | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1995–2002 | The X-Files | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Also creative consultant, consulting producer, co-executive producer and co-producer |
| 1999–2000 | Harsh Realm | No | No | No | Consulting | |
| 2001 | The Lone Gunmen | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | Co-created with Chris Carter, John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz |
| 2002 | Robbery Homicide Division | No | No | Yes | No | |
| 2005 | The Night Stalker | No | No | Yes | No | |
| 2007 | A.M.P.E.D. | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | Pilot Co-written with Frank Spotnitz |
| 2008–2013 | Breaking Bad | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | |
| 2015–2022 | Better Call Saul | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Co-created with Peter Gould |
| 2015 | Battle Creek | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | Co-created with David Shore |
| TBA | Untitled Vince Gilligan TV series | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Upcoming series |
Television episode credits
edit| Year | Show | Season | Episode number | Episode title | Director | Writer | Original airdate | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1995 | The X-Files | 2 | 23 | "Soft Light" | No | Yes | May 5, 1995 | |
| 1996 | 3 | 17 | "Pusher" | No | Yes | February 23, 1996 | ||
| 4 | 4 | "Unruhe" | No | Yes | October 27, 1996 | |||
| 10 | "Paper Hearts" | No | Yes | December 15, 1996 | ||||
| 1997 | 12 | "Leonard Betts" | No | Yes | January 26, 1997 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | ||
| 14 | "Memento Mori" | No | Yes | February 9, 1997 | Co-written with Chris Carter, Frank Spotnitz and John Shiban | |||
| 20 | "Small Potatoes" | No | Yes | April 20, 1997 | ||||
| 5 | 3 | "Unusual Suspects" | No | Yes | November 16, 1997 | |||
| 6 | "Christmas Carol" | No | Yes | December 7, 1997 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 7 | "Emily" | No | Yes | December 14, 1997 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 1998 | 8 | "Kitsunegari" | No | Yes | January 4, 1998 | Co-written with Tim Minear | ||
| 12 | "Bad Blood" | No | Yes | February 22, 1998 | ||||
| 19 | "Folie a Deux" | No | Yes | May 10, 1998 | ||||
| 6 | 2 | "Drive" | No | Yes | November 15, 1998 | |||
| 4 | "Dreamland" | No | Yes | November 29, 1998 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 5 | "Dreamland II" | No | Yes | December 6, 1998 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 1999 | 10 | "Tithonus" | No | Yes | January 24, 1999 | |||
| 14 | "Monday" | No | Yes | February 28, 1999 | Co-written with John Shiban | |||
| 20 | "Three of a Kind" | No | Yes | May 2, 1999 | Co-written with John Shiban | |||
| 21 | "Field Trip" | No | Yes | May 9, 1999 | Teleplay co-written with John Shiban (story by Frank Spotnitz) | |||
| 7 | 3 | "Hungry" | No | Yes | November 21, 1999 | |||
| 4 | "Millennium" | No | Yes | November 28, 1999 | Co-written with Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 2000 | 8 | "The Amazing Maleeni" | No | Yes | January 16, 2000 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | ||
| 12 | "X-Cops" | No | Yes | February 20, 2000 | ||||
| 14 | "Theef" | No | Yes | March 12, 2000 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 21 | "Je Souhaite" | Yes | Yes | May 14, 2000 | ||||
| 8 | 4 | "Roadrunners" | No | Yes | November 26, 2000 | |||
| 2001 | The Lone Gunmen | 1 | 1 | "Pilot" | No | Yes | March 4, 2001 | Co-written with Chris Carter, John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz |
| 2 | "Bond, Jimmy Bond" | No | Yes | March 11, 2001 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 7 | "Planet of the Frohikes" | No | Yes | April 6, 2001 | ||||
| 8 | "Maximum Byers" | No | Yes | April 13, 2001 | Co-written with Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 12 | "All About Yves" | No | Yes | May 11, 2001 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 13 | "The Cap'n Toby Show" | No | Yes | June 1, 2001 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 2002 | The X-Files | 9 | 7 | "John Doe" | No | Yes | January 13, 2002 | |
| 15 | "Jump the Shark" | No | Yes | April 21, 2002 | Co-written with John Shiban and Frank Spotnitz | |||
| 18 | "Sunshine Days" | Yes | Yes | May 12, 2002 | ||||
| Robbery Homicide Division | 1 | 4 | "Free and Clear" | No | Yes | October 18, 2002 | ||
| 2005 | Night Stalker | 1 | 10 | "What's the Frequency, Kolchak?" | No | Yes | March 17, 2006 | |
| 2007 | A.M.P.E.D. | Pilot | No | Yes | Unaired | Co-written with Frank Spotnitz | ||
| 2008 | Breaking Bad | 1 | 1 | "Pilot" | Yes | Yes | January 20, 2008 | |
| 2 | "Cat's in the Bag..." | No | Yes | January 27, 2008 | ||||
| 3 | "...And the Bag's in the River" | No | Yes | February 10, 2008 | ||||
| 4 | "Cancer Man" | No | Yes | February 17, 2008 | ||||
| 2009 | 2 | 6 | "Peekaboo" | No | Yes | April 12, 2009 | Co-written with J. Roberts | |
| 13 | "ABQ" | No | Yes | May 31, 2009 | ||||
| 2010 | 3 | 1 | "No Más" | No | Yes | March 21, 2010 | ||
| 13 | "Full Measure" | Yes | Yes | June 13, 2010 | ||||
| 2011 | 4 | 1 | "Box Cutter" | No | Yes | July 17, 2011 | ||
| 12 | "End Times" | Yes | No | October 2, 2011 | ||||
| 13 | "Face Off" | Yes | Yes | October 9, 2011 | ||||
| 2012 | 5 | 1 | "Live Free or Die" | No | Yes | July 15, 2012 | ||
| 2 | "Madrigal" | No | Yes | July 22, 2012 | ||||
| 2013 | 16 | "Felina" | Yes | Yes | September 29, 2013 | |||
| 2015 | Battle Creek | 1 | 1 | "The Battle Creek Way" | No | Yes | March 1, 2015 | Co-written with David Shore |
| Better Call Saul | 1 | 1 | "Uno" | Yes | Yes | February 8, 2015 | Co-written with Peter Gould | |
| 2016 | 2 | 10 | "Klick" | Yes | Yes | April 18, 2016 | Co-written with Heather Marion | |
| 2017 | 3 | 1 | "Mabel" | Yes | Yes | April 10, 2017 | Co-written with Peter Gould | |
| 2 | "Witness" | Yes | No | April 17, 2017 | ||||
| 2018 | 4 | 9 | "Wiedersehen" | Yes | No | October 1, 2018 | ||
| 2020 | 5 | 8 | "Bagman" | Yes | No | April 6, 2020 | ||
| 2022 | 6 | 2 | "Carrot and Stick" | Yes | No | April 18, 2022 | ||
| 8 | "Point and Shoot" | Yes | No | July 11, 2022 | ||||
| 12 | "Waterworks" | Yes | Yes | August 8, 2022 | ||||
Acting
edit| Year | Title | Role | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 | Community | Devon / Pile of Bullets' Host | Episode: "VCR Maintenance and Educational Publishing" |
| 2015 | Comedy Bang! Bang! | The Commissioner | Episode: "Lil Jon Wears a Baseball Cap and Sunglasses" |
| 2017 | Penn Zero: Part-Time Hero | Axalon (voice) | Episode: "Mr. Rippen" |
| 2018 | American Dad! | Himself (voice) | Episode: "(You Gotta) Strike for Your Right" |
| 2019 | What Just Happened??! with Fred Savage | Himself | Episode: “Spoiler” |
Awards and nominations
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