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I came across this award reviewing a draft and it appears to be a notable award mentioned in several articles. Thought you might be interested in creating an article. See also es:Gourmand World Cookbook Awards. S0091 (talk) 16:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hm, it has an entry in 8 language wikis. Definitely seems worth investigating, thanks! Valereee (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| For closing that discussion about moving wikipedia overseas. It might seem like an odd thing to be grateful for, but it almost certainly was for the best and I appreciate it greatly. Gaismagorm (talk) 11:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC) |
- Thanks, @Gaismagorm! Valereee (talk) 12:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- No problem! Gaismagorm (talk) 14:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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James Rowe, again
editIf you feel like saying something on the recent (todays) edits on the article and talkpage, please do. A little more at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#James_Rowe_(footballer,_born_1983). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've p-blocked from the article for 24 hours for EW. I'm afraid I'm not following the discussion very well...I don't know football, don't know the football-specific sources, and the Telegraph source is paywalled for me. And the editor's discussion style, I'm finding very difficult to follow at all. Before I go into the talk to try to moderate: Is this person objecting to using the Telegraph source to support the fact Rowe is married because the source says things the editor doesn't want readers to be able to click to from the article? Valereee (talk) 12:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- On that particular point, it seems the problem is/will be that source being used in the article at all:[4], which IMO doesn't fly since it's a decent on-topic RS. However, using the BBC instead in that particular case is of course acceptable, though unnecessary. But it it serves the peace. Which per [5] I'm sceptical of, SM intends to keep editwarring.
- My impression so far is that SM can accept no judgement/reading on a source other than his own (see the [6], [7] and [8] threads), and will edit-war to impose it.
- I don't know football either, which is why I leave the stats-discussion to others, but the Rowe-article has been problematic in other ways. On reading The Telegraph, have you tried [9]? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can often find a way get to these if I'm just a little less lazy. :) I'm wondering if the objection to that particular article being used at all is the headline, "Ex-Chesterfield manager ‘thrust exposed penis into massage therapist’s hand’, sex assault trial hears" which of course appears in the references. And if the only use of that source is to support that he has a wife, then it's not an unreasonable objection given that he was acquitted. Valereee (talk) 15:24, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, though it's one of the national in-depth sources that shows that the court-thing belongs in the article, and as of [10] it's the source currently there that says he lives in Derbyshire now. And for WP-purposes, the headline shouldn't matter. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I agree! I was just saying maybe that's the actual underlying objection. I'm assuming this editor is someone close to Rowe, and that for someone with a COI it's understandable why they would hate seeing that headline in the references. Valereee (talk) 16:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it's very underlying, SM has been pretty upfront on that. I didn't say I appreciate you involving yourself, but I do. And I hope you keep watching when the 24h ends ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Big family holidays here, I'll be around, but if I miss another EW, just ping me. Valereee (talk) 16:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Even less underlying. Potentially problematic, time will tell. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it's very underlying, SM has been pretty upfront on that. I didn't say I appreciate you involving yourself, but I do. And I hope you keep watching when the 24h ends ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I agree! I was just saying maybe that's the actual underlying objection. I'm assuming this editor is someone close to Rowe, and that for someone with a COI it's understandable why they would hate seeing that headline in the references. Valereee (talk) 16:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, though it's one of the national in-depth sources that shows that the court-thing belongs in the article, and as of [10] it's the source currently there that says he lives in Derbyshire now. And for WP-purposes, the headline shouldn't matter. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can often find a way get to these if I'm just a little less lazy. :) I'm wondering if the objection to that particular article being used at all is the headline, "Ex-Chesterfield manager ‘thrust exposed penis into massage therapist’s hand’, sex assault trial hears" which of course appears in the references. And if the only use of that source is to support that he has a wife, then it's not an unreasonable objection given that he was acquitted. Valereee (talk) 15:24, 27 November 2024 (UTC)