Talk:Green Lantern

With all due respect to Mr.Nodell, I own a copy of Steranko's HISTORY OF THE COMICS Vol. One and in it, Finger claimed he was the one who had the idea of using "Alan Ladd" as a play off the name Aladdin. Finger commented on the actor of the same name on how they missed a publcity opportunity! Since Finger is the same writer who came up with the "Bruce Wayne" identity for Bob Kane's Batman, I tend to believe he did likewise for Nodell's Green Lantern.MARK VENTURE (talk) 04:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

I think it would be worth adding a sentence or two about that, if you have the citation. Jeff (talk) 23:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Bill finger was brought on after Martin Nodell created the green lantern. He was NOT a co-creator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:201:4300:EBC1:14B3:86B0:892F:E937 (talk) 03:06, 25 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

You can have your opinion on it, but Bill Finger is officially credited with co-creating Alan Scott's Green Lantern. Please check 'Batman: The Brave and the Bold S3 E11'. In the credits you can clearly see he has official credit from WB/DC. It says, "Green Lantern/Alan Scott created by Martin Nodell and Bill Finger". If you can't access the episode, here's a link to a picture of the credit: https://imgur.com/a/xhY886t Kaii-El (talk) 06:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Someone might want to clean up the last para in this section, updating the sequence of this "trilogy", publication dates etc., I'm not enough of a scholar to be reliable, I just happened to notice the availability of Blackest Night after seeing the reference here and looking it up on Amazon.Jeff (talk) 21:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Shouldn't we make an article about the War of the Green Lanterns storyline. I mean, it may not be as important as Blackest Night or Brightest Day, but is still pretty important for the Green Lantern series. So, what do you say? Leader Vladimir (talk) 23:27, 25 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

There needs to be more references. Such as for their ability to Time travel,use Telepathy, use Hypnosis, Allowing wearer to phase through things, and the wearer being able to Digitiz himself.If references can't be put up I The Multiverse (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC) think some of these should be removed from Powers and Abilities.Reply

Oh and the reference that goes with kryptonite is inaccurate so it should be removed The Multiverse (talk) 19:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC).Reply

The lead speaks of the DC Universe (mentioned again in the body of the article), but it does not link to anything nor does it explain what the "DC Universe" is. So: what is it? AugustinMa (talk) 08:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

The way I understand it is that it's the main storyline for DC Comics. --PixieDragon (talk) 12:55, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Given at least eight instances of vandalism committed against the article in the last month, can someone please lock the page to unregistered users? Thanks. 12.233.147.42 (talk) 23:28, 31 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Since he knows I dabble in Wikipedia, I received a snail-mail letter from John Hertz asking me to clean up the reference to Alfred Bester and the Green Lantern Oath citing his research including discussions with LASFS members who back the change. Paradoox (talk) 18:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)Rick Kovalcik aka paradooxReply

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why is Jong Li (Dragon Lord) not mentioned in the article? I miss him! Qwertzu111111 (talk) 16:11, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Go find RS that discuss the character and go from there. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

sorry - I do not understand this comment. Qwertzu111111 (talk) 15:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

My apologies, Qwertzu. I mean, that while Jong Li was indeed Earth's first GL, you need to provide a link to a source that talks about the character. It is not enough that you remember the short run (so short, in fact, that I had never heard of him until I read up on it. Not even GetComics has an entry for the limited run). You have to point out where a reliable source (WP:RS) talks about him. I think it might be difficult to accomplish, as other Earthers (Waverly Sayre, Daniel Young, and Anya Savenlovich) have worn the ring. But all of these were side stories or limited-run series. Jong Li, I believe, is the most notable of these, having been the first. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Dear Jack Sebastian, Thank you very much for your kind reply. I am glad to hear from you. For me, it is difficult to decide what is a reliable source for English Wikipedia.

I found this:

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Jong_Li_(New_Earth)

https://www.gulacy.com/dc/green-lantern/dragon-lord/dragonlord01-cover.htm

https://www.gulacy.com/interviews/popimage/popimage.htm

https://www.comics.org/series/7510/

But I don't know if these are good sources. What do you think?

Qwertzu111111 (talk) 14:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Qwertzu. I think that you might benefit from reading a bit more about how the Wiki-EN handles edits and articles. You might start off with WP:5P, which discusses the Five Pillars of that which makes Wikipedia what it is. Right after that, check out WP:STANDARDS, which points out how to approach editing.

In a nutshell - and the very hardest part for editors to understand about Wikipedia - is that just because something is true does not mean that it can be added to the Wikipedia. As per WP:V and WP:TRUTH, the litmus for inclusion in Wikipedia is Verifiability, not truth. You can read up on WP:RS to learn about what a reliable source is and how it differs from other sources. With one sole exception - media plot summaries - every statement in Wikipedia needs to be backed up to a reliable source.

The sources you listed about are practically fan forums, which Wikipedia does not use. This is because posts can be inserted, altered or removed at a whim, all by people who about as reliable as a dog's wagging tail in a China shop. We need sources that wll never go away. That keeps an article stable enough to progress through Good Article Status to Featured Article status. I'd urge you to check out the Featured Articles in Wikipedia, which often represent the better/best of articles in the Wiki-EN. if you'd like some additional advice and/or guidance, drop me a line and we'll talk more.

With regards to the Jong Li entrance into the article, this reliably-sourced bit can be used in the article. Add a section about the first Lantern and use this, or this, or even this as a source.

Good luck to you, and happy editing. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 19:07, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Dear Jack Sebastian, thanks for your kind response and your help. I really appreciate it. (sorry for my late answer). all the best and stay in touch Qwertzu111111 (talk) 11:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello everybody! I just learned about a relatively new term in academic political science, punditry, and journalism : "Green Lanternism", which refers to the tendency of the public to demand that political leaders be omnipotent, and to attribute every disaster or problem, including inevitable ones like aging or earthquakes, to political leaders' alleged weakness or malice, as if the leaders' capabilities and powers, like Green Lantern's, were limited only by the leaders' will power. I think this term is notable and appropriate for GL's Wikipedia page, but some people might disagree with me (it does happen, occasionally), so I'm opening this section on the TALK page for those who do, to vent, or for anyone to discuss, question, or debate, any aspect of this. HandsomeMrToad (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Got RS citations of its use and pervasive presence within 'academic political science, punditry, and journalism'? - Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:51, 12 May 2022 (UTC)Reply