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World Gazetteer populations of localities in Faisalabad area

Faisalabad City: 2,582,175
Chak Jhumra: 38,059
Jaranwala: 122,044
Sammundri: 68,528
Tandlianwala: 38,864
Dijkot: 28,093
Khurianwala: 36,093
Mamu Kanjan: 32,639

Which Lyall?

Latest comment: 7 years ago9 comments3 people in discussion

Confusion over Sir James Lyall vs Sir Charles James Lyall has been resolved. It's Sir James Lyall. See discussion: Talk:Charles James Lyall#City named after him

Which Sir James Lyall was Lyallpur named after? Charles James Lyall or James Broadwood Lyall? The source given in our article and the Encyclopedia Britannica article say it's Charles James Lyall, the Lt. Governon of Punjab. Fine, but this seems self-contradictory as this Lyall doesn't appear to have ever been a Governon of Punjab (not mentioned in his article, seems unlikely given the rest of his career, doesn't appear in List of governors of Punjab (British India)). James Broadwood Lyall on the other hand was a Lt. Governor of Punjab, and roughly at the same time that the city was founded, and in the History section of the current article there's mention of his involvement in its creation. The sources I've encountered so far mostly simply say "James Lyall, the Lt. Governor of Punjab" without indicating which of the two that is [1] [2]). It seems most reasonable that this is James Broadwoood Lyall, and that the sources that have it as Charles James Lyall are in error. Any thoughts? Noting there was an earlier discussion in 2011. – Uanfala (talk) 15:30, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

It was Charles James Lyall. I linked to the book, and also updated the Lyall bio. ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:45, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

How do you know? My point was that the claim in the book, which you've now copied to Charles' article, is unreliable. – Uanfala (talk) 15:49, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Adding that The 1911 edition of EB has that as James Broadwood Lyall. – Uanfala (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, but you are incorrect. There is not just one claim in one book. There are numerous. Perhaps you would be kind enough to cite more RS instead? The James Broadwood Lyall info is incorrect and needs to be corrected throughout Wikipedia. He was never the Lt. Gov of Punjab. A simple Google searches show you numerous RS that Charles James Lyall was the Lt. Gov. The links that showed James Broadwood were WP links. See page 257 and tell me where it says he was ever Lt. Gov. The same applies to numerous other sources. ^{Atsme📞📧} 16:18, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

The source you now linked to gives James Broadwood as a Lt. Governor of Punjab, while mentioning nothing of the sort for Charles James. – Uanfala (talk) 16:22, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm finding mixed information...give me a minute, and if you can, please research as well. ^{Atsme📞📧} 16:43, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

(edit conflict) You're wrong, Atsme. See the discussion at Talk:Charles James Lyall also. - Sitush (talk) 16:44, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that's where I posted a long list of RS that support my position. Tag, you're it.

^{Atsme📞📧} 22:27, 14 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

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