Talk:Dariacore (album)

@QuietHere: I'd like to discuss the notability tag. "An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence." It was reviewed by a credible website and considered one of the best albums of 2021, and it inaugurated a genre of same name (Dariacore). It also has sufficient content to form its own independent article. For me, the notability is evident. Skyshifter ^talk 23:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Which is a fair call. I admit that I took a few minutes looking over the article before leaving the tag, and that this is a significant edge case at the very least. My concern was with the fact that few of the sources primarily focus on this album (e.g. That Pitchfork quote is a single line from a review of a different album), and those that do include Sputnikmusic which I'm still not convinced is actually reliable enough on its own to support notability that strongly. I think you've done a good job establishing what would make the article notable with the context provided and that's commendable, but it's still just on the line at best in my opinion. And it's also worth noting that I came to this article from your addition of it to List of 2021 albums (January–June) where you left it without a source to which Mburrell responded by adding one from a random blog which is clearly not reliable. That they had to go for such a source and that the article (and subject, as far as I've seen) lacks in anything much better, is also not a great sign. It might pass WP:NMUSIC based on what you have, but I don't think it passes WP:GNG. Typically, in a situation like this, a merge would be the ideal option. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

@QuietHere: thank you for your response. You said you weren't sure if Sputnik was "reliable enough on its own to support notability that strongly". While Sputnik is indeed the source with the biggest amount of coverage, I think the other facts I mentioned (considered one of the best albums of 2021 + creating a whole genre) should also be considered regarding the notability of the subject. In fact, I only created this article after discovering the album was included on The Fader's list of best albums of 2021, and I thought this was the main aspect that would make the album independently notable, along with the other sources I found. I also think the Fader's article is significant coverage. I agree that sources such as the Pitchfork one aren't significant coverage, but it's still saying that it was Jane's highlight of the year, for example, so I still decided to add it. Regarding the list, I removed the source. I also think a merge isn't a good option because the article has enough content to be independent. A merge could mean a portion of relevant content here would be lost, especially considering Jane's article isn't that big, so it would probably need to be shortened. Skyshifter ^talk 00:08, 13 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I've done a few more additions to the article. Skyshifter ^talk 00:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Someone please tell me why we call "Frailty" and "Dariacore" studio albums when they were made in Jane's bedroom in FL Studio. They were made around similar times which is why I mention it, and Jane didn't ever mention anything about having studio equipment iirc, quite the opposite with the recording processes being very DIY with high editing in the DAWs. This isn't me calling for both of those to not be called "studio albums", I'd just like to know why they are in the first place. Saintfuki (talk) 18:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Isn't studio album just a synonym for "full-length album"? Skyshifter ^talk 19:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

A studio album is an album that is released in studio quality, that isn't a box set, compilation, remix album, etc. This isn't live, this isn't a compilation, this is studio quality, therefore making it a studio album. Like Skyshifter said, it's synonymous with "full-length album" or just what people refer to as an "album" casually. Locust member (talk) 03:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply