Talk:Danelectro

Anyone know why one of the guitars listed on this page links to a page about an airplane?

Yes.....the Douglas DC3 [ called a C-47 by the Army ] was the workhorse of WWII. There are hundreds of these still flying today. So it shares the name with the Dano guitar.

The person responsible for the unique look of the Dan Electro guitar is Industrial Designer, Sydney Rose of Little Silver N.J. (just north of Neptune). He also happens to be an artist who makes coin-op "nothing" machines that work by putting a coin in a slot that sets off all kinds of movements. These machines have the same aesthetics as the guitars (as do his paintings). His neihbor and fellow Dan Electro employee Alfred Manfreedi lives down the street and was the guitar repairman that worked on my guitars while growing up. He passed on in the late 80's. Sydney is now in a home for the elderly with his wife Ester. - Kit Krash.

This is Howard Daniel. I'm the (63-year old) son of Danelectro's founder, Nathan I. Daniel, who died in 1994. In the last few days, several other editors have made a variety of changes to this article, and several of those changes have included deleting an external link to a tribute I wrote about my father and first linked to this article in April 2007. The link remained undisturbed until roughly a week ago. The tribute to my father, which resides on my own Web site, is mainly about the many innovations that my dad contributed to the world of electric guitars and musical instrument amplifiers. The article provides a great deal of Danelectro history that can be found nowhere else. I think my tribute is a very useful addition to this article, and I respectfully request other editors out there to not once again delete this external link, which I am about to restore. I truly believe the tribute to Nathan I. Daniel constitutes an important service to anyone interested in Danelectro.

Just to make sure everything is as clear as possible, the tribute can be found at http://www.pen4rent.com/pen4rent/tribute.aspx, and if anyone is tempted in the future to again delete the link, I urge you, in my father's memory, to look the article over before deleting the link. If anyone wishes to contact me about this, please let me know by e-mail at howard@pen4rent.com.

Thank you very much. Howard E. Daniel 05:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Despite my request not to delete the external link I restored a few hours ago, someone has indeed done so. If you are tempted to do it again, please do me the courtesy of explaining your reasoning. My reasoning for restoring the link is given above. Thank you.Howard E. Daniel 17:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Howarddaniel (talk • contribs)

I'd like to start a seperate page that lists some notable players of Danelectro and Sivlertone guitars, along the lines of the List of Telecaster players. Can people help out with some names and sources? Marshall Stax (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

• David Lindley --Leahtwosaints (talk) 11:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
• Jimmy Page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.123.0.8 (talk) 12:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Updating: list of Danelectro players (Wikipedia) list of Danelectro guitar players (theguitarlover.com) Dano Celebs (photos) real Danelectros (photos) Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:24, 17 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm marking this for my later attention, but anyone is free to jump in.

Multiple issues with this article, beginning with linear time.

The current holder of the "Danelectro" name is not in any way connected with the original company. Though path of acquisition is very unclear, it appears that the present company merely stole the name and designs. There is no continuity of records, and any "collectors" are SOL if they want more data on a particular instrument.

Was "Danelectro" the name of the company? Was it a corporation? partnership? sole proprietorship? LLC? Were the iconic "lipstick" pickups in any way IP'd?

Perhaps should be clarified that Nat Daniel left the company entirely when he sold in 1966, and did not in any way remain in control. As Howard Daniel makes clear (ibid), Nat Daniel maybe deserves his own Wikipedia entry, if only as a stub.

There is no mention at all of Neptune, NJ; the sidebar places the original company at Red Bank. When significance is verified, the Neptune Township entry could perhaps be updated.

The original company receives ten percent of the article, even though it's those instruments that caught the attention of the famous players that made Danelectro iconic and continue to drive demand for the Evets guitars.

There is no effort to provide a source for the information in that first paragraph, marking it Original Research.

No effort is made to distinguish between current-era wood-slab guitars and the Masonite (generally hollow) guitars they mimic, much less the wildly different hardware (like pickup impedances).

The bulk of the entry is nothing but an adsheet for the present-day Danelectro brand. Interested readers should be steered to the company's website, and about half the entry removed. Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:24, 17 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Should also be noted that original Danelectro designs have recently been reproduced by Samick Music Corporation under the resurrected "Silvertone" brand, particularly their present 1449 and 1303 (U2) models; the 1478 has clear roots in the Silvertone 1450, a close cousin to the Danelectro Dane and Hornet. Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:09, 17 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

FWIW, the Blue Book entry is much more robust than W'pedia. I'll get around to dragging data over, unless some industrious soul beats me to it.

DanGuitars.com, "The History of Danelectro"

Howard Daniel's "Tribute to Nathan I. Daniel"

Neptune Bound: The Ultimate Danelectro Guitar Guide

"THE DANELECTRO STORY: GUITAR WEIRDNESS AT A PRICE"

Zach Fjestad (Blue Book Publications), "Dynamic Danelectro", PremierGuitar.com

SilvertoneWorld.net -- much info on Sears-brand Neptune-built guitars and amps and players

also a link to a collection of Evets Corporation (modern "Danelectro") adsheets, but the URL danelectro.guru is embargoed by Wikipedia for some reason

Weeb Dingle (talk) 04:37, 16 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Um… hi.

Wikipedia is not the place for voluminous listing of any company's catalog (current or former). See WP:NOTFANSITE and WP:NOTADVERTISING.

If such tabular information exists elsewhere, then BRIEFLY describe it in the article then link to it. If it DOESN'T exist elsewhere, then nobody really gives a damn and it doesn't belong in Wikipedia.

Thanks for your attention.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 01:15, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

At the outset, I did not appreciate that this would be such a mammoth undertaking. To avoid totally mucking it up, I'm going to pace much more slowly over days.

FWIW, I own one of the last Silvertone Danos ever made, a very late 1450L. Really, I understand the huge amount of effort that has been put into pulling this information together in one place.

But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not some sort of Collector Guide. You need to tell the WP user about the company. You need to tell the WP user about the models. Wikipedia is not a repository for nondescriptive lists of gear, and not a place to collect photos (WP:NOTGALLERY).

I see no mention of the aluminum nut, or of the "zero fret," or of the non-adjustable non-intonated wood bridgepiece, all fairly standard to Danos and perhaps unique in the history of the electric guitar, and all contributing (with the lipsticks) to its distinctive sound.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 04:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

The structure of this article lies somewhere between awkward and bizarre. Often, clicking on an inline citation sends the reader to somewhere in the References section, which are mostly grouped by source — is there some actual useful purpose intended here? — which generally then bounce the user to the Bibliography section, and (as often as not) only THEN point the user to the source.

Speaking of that. In the time since all of this stuff was put in the article, the BlueBookOfGuitarValues.com site was entirely changed. That's like four years ago. So, EVERY link presented here is going to 404 the user, which hardly seems sporting. Anyone who wants to save/resurrect this stuff should begin at Blue Book's current Danelectro header page.

(Also, I get the impression Fjestad is more a publisher or Executive Editor sort of guy, so attributing info to specifically him is questionable. As well, I've verified that Blue Book often misstates easily verifiable history that, once published, takes on a life of its own much like the citogenesis problem around here; only occasionally is any mention made as to where the info supposedly originated.)
Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

I've just been over to http://danelectro.com/, and find that most of the article verbiage about the post-'90s Danelectro is in fact no longer true. For starters, the site offers exactly TWO effects pedals (neither from any particular series). And they seem to have at least 27 different guitar models. Oh, and some of those are clear ripoffs of the Univox Hi-Flier/Mosrite "Ventures" models, so straying rather far afield. I'm simply going to delete all that rather than attempt patches.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:10, 15 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'm personally fascinated that Danelectro has their own 9 volt batteries for their effects pedals and cheap "Honeytone" amplifiers. Taken from Amazon description page: "Danelectro DB-2 Vintage-Style Batteries provide superior tone for all effects pedals and devices because they discharge differently than the alkaline batteries of today."

Now, when did this happen? From the beginning? After MCA bought them? Maybe even in the 90s when the brand was resurrected? Did Nathan Daniel buy or contract with the last manufacturer who used this particular design of 9-volts? How much was this deliberately thought out and how much was a happy accident? This mystery needs to be solved Cuvtixo (talk) 16:32, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply