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Latest comment: 10 months ago by Rangasyd in topic National Register listing

National Register listing

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This is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. The congregation's website has a picture of the actual plaque. See National Register listings for Chatham County {http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/GA/Chatham/state.html] wher it is listed as Mickve Israel Synagogue. This should be in the article. clariosophic 20:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

@Clariosophic: This building is not listed individually on the NRHP. The site quoted above is a third-party and not the official register maintained by the National Parks Service. The site is a contributing property of the Savannah Historic District, that has been listed on the NRHP since 1966. The reference to the December 1980 purported listing fails verification at multiple points. As a result, I have today removed all reference to the NRHP-listing, and/or, where appropriate, tagged with {{failed verification}}. There are multiple third-party references, including the image of the NRHP plaque on the building, that indicate that the building is listed on the NRHP. However, without a true primary sources from the NPS NRHP register, it should not be listed or categorized as a NRHP site. As always, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 03:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mispelling of name of congregation changes its meaning

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The article states "in July 1735 as Kahal Kadosh Mickva Israel (the Holy Congregation, the Hope of Israel)......" The third Hebrew word of the congregation's name, "Michva" (or as it is written in the title, "Mickve" does not mean "hope." If the name of the congregation is in fact "Hope of Israel," then the name should be "Tikvah Israel," because "tikvah," is the correct Hebrew word for hope.

The word "Michve" in the title above, is a real Hebrew word. A "mikvah" is a ritual bath that is used monthly by Orthodox, modern Orthodox and some Conservative Jewish women who obey the laws of "family purity," one of which is the requirement to submerge oneself completely in this ritual bath, called the "mikveh," which has been filled with natural rain water. The laws of family purity, including the preparation rituals that a woman must undertake prior to submerging, are complicated and extensive, and do not need to be outlined here. If "Mickve Israel" was the correct name of the synagogue, it would mean "Ritual Bath of Israel," which would be meaningless.

This is obviously a typo. Even considering the many languages/dialects of Jews, and how the pronunciation of many words have changed over the centuries, I simply cannot imagine that the term "mikveh" was ever correct. While it is possible that the word "bath" could be used in the name of a congregation, it makes no sense. The fact that we know the correct name was "Hope," and that we know that the word for hope in Hebrew is "tikvah," it seems obvious that this was a typo.

(talk) 13:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

the origin of the expression Mickve Israel comes from the Bible, Jeremiyah 14 8. The same word is also used for the ritual bath, and it is called "mikve" is herbew. It's simple definition is a spring of water, but it's metaphorically used to symbolize hope, tikvah. Drorzm (talk) 15:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Is this a museum?

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I realize they give tours, but they don't appear to have a collection dm (talk) 20:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Great, good news. Could you please update the article with information on the museum and it's collection? Citations are, as always, very helpful. Thanks! dm (talk) 23:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

adding a citation from library of congress

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Decided to change the citation of the letter of George Washington to be the one mentioned in the Library of Congress. I think it's better to have an original as possible reference.

also added the fact that this letter was the first to be sent by a president to a jewish community.Drorzm (talk) 16:07, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
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