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Meaning of the name

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"The Muisca were the indigenous inhabitants of the region and called the settlement where Bogotá was founded Bacatá, which in the Chibcha language means "The Lady of the Andes." Further, the word 'Andes' in the Aymara language means "shining mountain," thus rendering the full lexical signification of Bogotá as "The Lady of the shining mountain." "

May I say that I've seen far too many "explanations" without evidence.

For instance, the article "Bacatá" says that "The word is a combination of the Muysccubun words bac, ca and tá, and means "(enclosure) outside the farmfields", referring to the rich agricultural lands of the Sabana Formation on the Bogotá savanna."

Also, most scholars actually believe that Andes comes from Quechua "anti" = "east".

Anyway... what does it matter what "Andes" means in Aymará, since the Aymará live some 1,500 miles to the south? --82.48.102.214 (talk) 16:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Crime

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It says that "1.2 percent of street addresses account for 99 percent of homicides", which at first sounds as though homicides are extremely concentrated locally. But actually this figure by itself doesn't mean anything. What's the overall ratio between street addresses and homicides? Or what percentage of streets addresses accounts for 100% percent of homicides? 2.203.201.113 (talk) 23:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Introduction to Bogota

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Bogotá (/ˌboʊɡəˈtɑː/, also UK: /ˌbɒɡ-/, US: /ˈboʊɡətɑː/, Spanish pronunciation: [boɣoˈta] (listen)), officially Bogotá, Distrito Capital, abbreviated Bogotá, D.C., and formerly known as Santa Fe de Bogotá (Spanish: [ˌsanta ˈfe ðe βoɣoˈta]; lit. 'Holy Faith of Bogotá') during the Spanish Colonial period and between 1991 and 2000, is the capital city of Colombia, and one of the largest and most important cities in the World. Considered by the World Bank to be one of the Planet's mega-cities, Bogota is a global center for finance, politics, culture, shopping, media, tourism, and entertainment. Bogota is a thriving metropolis made up of millions of people and independent boroughs which are part of the greater city. The city is administered as the Capital District, as well as the capital of, though not part of, the surrounding department of Cundinamarca. Bogotá is a territorial entity of the first order, with the same administrative status as the departments of Colombia. It is Colombia's and one of the world's major political, economic, administrative, and industrial centers, with a GDP of 100 billion US dollars in the 2020 World Bank census, Bogota also has one of the highest nominal GDP's in the world .

Bogota is one of the World's most populous cities, with it's urban agglomeration alone accounting for approximately 10 million people, and metropolitan area holding a population of over 12 million people. Some estimates have placed Bogota's metro population as high as 15 million people, making it's metropolitan agglomeration larger than that of cities such as London, Paris, Los Angeles, or Moscow. The city of Bogota itself is divided into 20 localities or districts, with each locality having it's own local governmental institutions and local mayors office, which in turn answer to the central government of Bogota and to the National government of the Republic of Colombia.

Bogotá was founded as the capital of the New Kingdom of Granada on 6 August 1538 by Spanish conquistador Gonzalo Jiménez de Quesada after a harsh expedition into the Andes conquering the Muisca, the indigenous inhabitants of the Altiplano. Santafé (its name after 1540) became the seat of the government of the Spanish Royal Audiencia of the New Kingdom of Granada (created in 1550), and then after 1717 it was the capital of the Viceroyalty of New Granada. After the Battle of Boyacá on 7 August 1819, Bogotá became the capital of the independent nation of Gran Colombia. It was Simón Bolívar who rebaptized the city with the name of Bogotá, as a way of honoring the Muisca people and as an emancipation act towards the Spanish crown. Hence, since the Viceroyalty of New Granada's independence from the Spanish Empire and during the formation of present-day Colombia, Bogotá has remained the capital of this territory.

The city is located in the center of Colombia, on a high plateau known as the Bogotá savanna, part of the Altiplano Cundiboyacense located in the Eastern Cordillera of the Andes. Bogotá is the third-highest capital in South America and in the world after Quito and La Paz, at an average of 2,640 meters (8,660 ft) above sea level. Divided into 20 localities, Bogotá has an area of 1,587 square kilometers (613 square miles) and a relatively cool climate that is constant through the year.

The city is home to central offices of the executive branch (Office of the President), the legislative branch (Congress of Colombia) and the judicial branch (Supreme Court of Justice, Constitutional Court, Council of State and the Superior Council of Judicature) of the Colombian government. Bogotá stands out for its economic strength and associated financial maturity, its attractiveness to global companies and the quality of human capital. It is the financial and commercial heart of Colombia, with the most business activity of any city in the country. The capital hosts the main financial market in Colombia and the Andean natural region, and is the leading destination for new foreign direct investment projects coming into Latin America and Colombia. It has the highest nominal GDP in the country, responsible for almost a quarter of the nation's total (24.7%).

The city's airport, El Dorado International Airport, named after the mythical El Dorado, handles the largest cargo volume in Latin America, and is third in number of people. Bogotá is home to the largest number of universities and research centers in the country,and is an important cultural center, with many theaters, libraries and museums. Bogotá ranks 30th on the Global Cities Index 2018 and is considered a global city type "Alpha" by GaWC. 2600:4040:2A94:4000:19BB:2A55:E762:F435 (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for attempting to use the talk page. Your version of the introduction is still pretty blatantly in violation of WP:NPOV, though. Phrases like (for example) most important cities in the World. are plainly subjective opinion and do not belong in an encyclopedia. MrOllie (talk) 00:17, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Additionally, there are significant grammar errors, and your attempt to change the live text broke a number of links, including the IP pronunciation. —C.Fred (talk) 01:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
This appears to be the same editor who has repeatedly added what is essentially the same promotional and non-neutral info over the last month, from multiple IPs and user accounts. I've requested page protection from edit warring. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:16, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
One of the most important cities in the world? (As I've pointed out before, "world" isn't a proper noun.) One of the three most important cities? The 1,000 most important cities? Imagine if the articles for a thousand different cities all kicked off with a claim as to their being "one of the most important cities in the world". It would be laughable. Perhaps the number intended here is much smaller, but how does the reader know? Re "... one of the world's major ...": I have the same comments.
What does "important" mean? Even if used in a source, it's a subjective observation, not a statement of demonstrable fact. It isn't a concrete statement that can be relied on even if it comes from a source that, with respect to objective information, is considered reliable.
Is a categorization by arbitrary organizations—the World Bank, the Globalization and World Cities Research Network—of lead-worthy significance?
"Bogotá stands out for its economic strength and associated financial maturity": stands out in comparison to what? To New York, Paris, London, Zurich, Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Dubai? Avoid WP:PUFFERY.
Finally, note MOS:LEAD: "As a general rule of thumb, a lead section should contain no more than four well-composed paragraphs...". The lead is already one over that; you've added one more. Largoplazo (talk) 17:47, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Photo in the Collage

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I’ve changed the photo in the collage from The Gold Museum to The Xavierian University, i think it looks better and represents the city as much as the museum. Let me know what do you think. --P3na155 (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Reference to cachacos and rolos?

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I propose to eliminate the table where people are classified in cachacos and rolos Bogotá - Wikipedia, it has no reference. What opinions do you have? Bogotá - Wikipedia


Kodosbs (talk) 15:51, 4 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Strongly agree. Julián Ortega - drop me a message 18:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Transmilenio critique

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Paragraph 7 of the section “Twenty-first century” presents an unfair critique of the public transportation system that is also not born out by the cited source. The source in question, taken from the Spanish-language “About Us” > “History” page on Transmilenio system’s very own website, would surely not describe the system as polluting and inefficient. Indeed, they do not.


Critiques of the system certainly exist: for nearly twenty years, residents have complained of its overcrowding and cost, and in some cases this seems to have diminished its intended purpose to shorten transportation times and get cars off the road.


Here are English-language links that provide more detailed objections to the system:

TransMilenio: The Good, the Bus and the Ugly

Why Are People Rioting Over Bogota's Public Transit System?

TransMilenio: renewing Bogotá’s transport system CashewKingKingdom (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply