User talk:Shovel Shenanigans

Hello, I'm Doniago. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, List of fictional religions, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Alternately, if the religion had a standalone article or even a significant section within an article in which it was discussed, with sources, that might be acceptable. DonIago (talk) 13:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll find a reliable citation and add it when I can. Thanks! Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 17:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Thank you for understanding my concern! DonIago (talk) 17:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heya! Just wanted to let you know that there are pronoun userboxes that you can use instead of putting your pronouns in the middle of your user page; see User:GracenC for an example. /home/gracen/ (yell at me here) 21:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks! I'll do that right now. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 21:43, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed that no-one had formally welcomed you here, so have a cup of tea (sadly we don't have an espresso-themed welcome message!) and some tasty links to read... Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 00:02, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message you left on my talk page. Almost all Trump related pages have been page protected so that only experienced editors can directly edit them. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Hopefully that keeps him away (though that may just annoy him). It's upsetting that I even have to worry about this. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 01:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I've noticed you marked this edit as minor. Per WP:MINOR ("Any change affecting an article's meaning is not minor[.]"), edits like that shouldn't be marked as minor. _WADroughtOfVowels^P 09:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you. I'll fix that and keep that in mind for the future. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 17:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: ape see funny fish button, ape click funny fish button ApteryxRainWing | Roar at me | My contributions 13:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Et tu, Brute! Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 17:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Shovel Shenanigans! The thread you created at the Teahouse, User Page Question, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still read the archived discussion. If you have follow-up questions, please create a new thread. See also the help page about the archival process. The archival was done by lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by KiranBOT, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=KiranBOT}} on top of the current page (your user talk page). —KiranBOT (talk) 03:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Shovel Shenanigans! The thread you created at the Teahouse, Something I think deserves a page. . ., has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still read the archived discussion. If you have follow-up questions, please create a new thread. See also the help page about the archival process. The archival was done by lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by KiranBOT, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=KiranBOT}} on top of the current page (your user talk page). —KiranBOT (talk) 03:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can use Twinkle tool to help revert vandalism and you can use warning templates as well (which is autoconfirmed). Thanks! --HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 16:38, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, neat! Thanks, friend! I'll start using that. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome and happy editing! --HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 16:43, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You too :) Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 16:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Slight wrinkle. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to use twinkle. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 17:50, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Try using User talk:Sandbox for user warnings. Feel free to leave any warnings or notices here. Thanks! --HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 17:53, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now, that I can do! Thanks. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 17:55, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shovel Shenanigans, Twinkle is a very powerful editing tool that is not intended for new editors. Please do not try to use it until you have several hundred edits. This was not good advice to give to an editor who has just been editing for two weeks. It could get you into more trouble than you will want to deal with. Just stick with learning about Wikipedia policies and guidelines through improving articles. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:46, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sounds good :) I'll save it for later. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 17:42, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to be discouraging, Shovel Shenanigans, but it's also not a wise idea for an editor with just 102 edits to go to WP:ANI and try to explain policies to editors that have been working on the project for 5, 10, 15, even 20 years. They understand all about the impropriety of personal attacks. I get that you are enthusiastic about editing here but please stick with improving articles, maybe some anti-vandalism work or crafting draft articles before participating in conduct discussions on administrators' noticeboards. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, understood. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 03:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, i did not intend to have that reply for any other than scuba (and probably LL85). When I pressed the little reply button on their comment, I expected it to appear just below that comment, not at the bottom of the thread. Either way, I'll still keep this in mind. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 03:36, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: "BONK!" - Scout, TF2 (actually I just saw you in the Teahouse again and couldn't resist the funny fish's mind games) ApteryxRainWing🐉 | Roar with me!!! | My contributions 15:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Shovel Shenanigans. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by TheWikiToby (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template.[reply]

ApteryxRainWing🐉 | Roar with me!!! | My contributions 19:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shovel Shenanigans. Following your Teahouse thread about signatures, I thought I'd continue here to give you a full set of instructions, in case you want to follow up on my suggestion. First, you have to create the page User:Shovel_Shenanigans/common.css which is currently a redlink as it does not exist. Create it by clicking on that link. That's where you need to paste the lines of content, which you can copy from my own page at User:Michael D. Turnbull/common.css: a blue link as it does exist. Each row of code is independent and does something different. The first line .mw-redirect {color: green;} will convert links that go to redirect pages from their default blue to green, which I find useful. The second line is the one which changes the way that you, and only you, will see your signature. That may be the only line you need at present, with your username replacing mine in the code. Lines 3-5 do things I find useful but you can ignore. I hope this helps! Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give that a shot as soon as I get a chance to. The help is greatly appreciated :) Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 18:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done!! Thank you! Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 15:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: being Shovel Shenanigans. -unsigned comment by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/49.186.224.25

I will be keeping this here for now, while removing other further troutings, since this is evidence of a (weak) personal attack, in case I need to bring this to admins. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 00:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone wondering, this person actually put a few of these trouts here for me reverting vandalism of theirs. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 03:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not vandalism, as I explained in a previous reply. Now, your personal attacks on me, and the wikipedia community's personal attacks and bullying of me at a time when my human rights are being denied and violated and I'm being obscenely and cruelly tortured is the real crime, Shovel. 49.186.224.25 (talk) 13:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, "Shovel", naturally, I don't know you and I know zero information about you so any absurd claims of "personal attacks" is false - unlike YOUR personal attacks against me and the wikipedians. 49.186.224.25 (talk) 13:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Examples please, my friend. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're simply giving me fuel for a post on ANI, so, by all means, go ahead.

I must warn you, one more aggressive comment, as I said on your talk page, and I will be reporting you. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 15:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I love you, my friend. 49.186.96.112 (talk) 21:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Shovel Shenanigans! The thread you created at the Teahouse, Signing question, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still read the archived discussion. If you have follow-up questions, please create a new thread. See also the help page about the archival process. The archival was done by lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by KiranBOT, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=KiranBOT}} on top of the current page (your user talk page). —KiranBOT (talk) 03:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Shovel Shenanigans,

You are still a very new editor though I can see that you are really building up some good editing experience which is great. But I wanted to just warn you that if you set yourself up as fighting vandalism, you can expect particularly persistent trolls to bite back. Most vandals are just bored and move on after they are reverted but as you experienced recently, some will come to your User talk page and try to annoy you. I know that this is not fair and I'm not saying that you have to put up with it. I'm just saying that you shouldn't be surprised when it starts happening to you. If it gets bad, we can semi-protect your User talk page but the best attitude is just to revert the edits and DENY. And it's a waste of time to argue with a troll.

If you find this too irritating, you can always go to the Teahouse and ask for advice there. I'm sure at the Teahouse there are some very experienced vandalism fighers and editors who handle NPP (New Page Patrol) who also can face unwanted attention. At least this editor won't be bothering you for a while and hopefully if they come back, they will have moved on. Thank you for all of your contributions to the project! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have definitely been expecting a troll to appear sooner rather than later (frankly, surprised it took so long). For the future, I won't interact beyond warnings and other necessary comments. I sincerely appreciate your advice.

I don't regret my decision to (mostly) dedicate my account to vandalism clean-up, since I don't know diddly-dip about squiddly-squat when it comes to most topics. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 05:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trust me, it will get worse. It's crazy how one vandal can be so persistent as stalking me at Wikimedia and spam slurs at my talk page, even create accounts with my name XD. It's annoying, but I usually scoff at their foolishness and move on. I hope you do too! 🔥YesI'mOnFire🔥^{(ContainThisEmber?)} 14:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Man, they go that far?

I'll wear it as a damn badge of honor when that (hopefully doesn't) happen to me. Luckily, admins are fairly on top of suppressing these lowlifes. Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 15:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I must say, I love the little song/poem on your userpage. As a fellow writer, it was very emotive, visually pleasing, and rolled off the tongue very well. The use of colored text was also very interesting! Shovel Shenanigans (talk) 16:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]