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Uh, yeah. I only bothered to be like "WTF" afterward. I'd carry on longer, but seems I've found me real work right now. Cheers. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:41, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

It's cool. Your edit summaries actually made me laugh, any editor who's stuck around Wikipedia long enough has stepped in it and had some "WTF" moments. Took me forever to figure out what the vandal had done. I just couldn't figure out how someone could go from posting innocuous apparent vandalism to over 11,000 bits of text...something just didn't seem right about it. What I finally did was search for one of their headers and when it showed up twice... Heh, of course I could have just looked at the Table of Contents first and saved myself a lot of trouble. Shearonink (talk) 03:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't see what needs to be oversighted to be honest, as far as I can tell it's a non-offensive internet meme... GiantSnowman 18:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I was thinking of its meaning as a synonym for 'penis' rather than the League of Legends/Heimerdinger/Internet meme but "raise your dongers" it is then. Shearonink (talk) 18:27, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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I saw that you reviewed the original proposal for the article to be deleted. The article is up for deletion again and I was wondering if you could take a look at the article.--Zfigueroa (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks! It's kind of hard to keep all the stuff together in my head and since there weren't any particular libel implications to the material I put it up in response to a "We need more info about his early life" request. I won't re-add it. The inverse of "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" would seem to apply. - Richfife (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#I_just_received_a_legal_threat_over_the_phone_about_Yank_Barry. Demiurge1000 thinks it was a crank call and I deserve it for being a jerk. Lovely. - Richfife (talk) 22:33, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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I have been trying to change the wording in the quote to the correct source; 10->ten (as it appears in the source material. Also adding more sources for Lincoln's goodbye to Crook. Also changed "a" knife to "the" knife. By having it as "a" knife, it sounds like Booth changed knives or something. It was the same he stabbed Rathbone with. Also need help adding sources(pages, books, ect.) I am afraid — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.128.189 (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I am afraid Acroterion is not listing.

Hi Shearonink Yes, that is true, however by adding the "/mass murder" tag to the end, it does not change that fact. The reason that I felt that attaching the "/mass murder" tag to the end will be helpful, was so that modern day researchers would have an easier time finding it, without denying the fact that it is also simply called the "Bath school disaster". Most modern researchers are far more likely to cross-reference the words "school" and "mass murder" in doing Google research on this, than "school" and "disaster". Scott P. (talk) 17:23, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

You did this renaming and instituted the redirects without any editorial consensus. You did not post your ideas on the talkpage before this wholesale change, which, by the way, would seem to be against the WP:MOS. Please continue any further discussion about this issue on the article's talk page so other editors can weigh in with their thoughts. Shearonink (talk) 17:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I apologize for this. I have already continued this discussion over there. I'm only trying to reach a sort of a compromise between old terminology and new terminology, but let's continue this conversation over there. Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 17:39, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, already over on the article's talk page, but I must say that it would probably have been more appropriate for the matter to have been discussed on the talk page before the article was renamed. Shearonink (talk) 17:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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On ANI you made this post. Some how it reverted my comments in another post. It could have just been a software bug, but I thought I would tell you on the off chance that it was human error.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 16:13, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, there was an edit conflict (ANI is so fast-moving sometimes), thought I had fixed that happened on my end - sorry about reverting/changing whatever I did. Yes, I'm human and I made the error. Apologies all around and thanks for letting me know. Shearonink (talk) 16:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes I saw that they were within minutes of each other and well they were separated by topics and a wall of text so I didn't expect it was purposeful. It looks like you angered the wikigods. Have a good day.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 16:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hi. Barney Kalman was the original drummer. Barry Curtis doesn't like to admit it. But he wasn't part of the group then. Why do you keep editing Barney out? What can I say to make you believe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by judymarlborough (talk • contribs) 00:09, 18 October 2014‎ (UTC)

You need to prove your assertion that Mr. Kalman is a past member of the group by finding better sources than a user-submitted Internet forum to back up your claims. Please take a look at reliable sources and the various links I left on your talk page. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 00:59, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I removed Donald Trump from the Apprentice category only because it makes more sense for Trump to be the parent topic of The Apprentice. Trivialist (talk) 01:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks so much for answering my question so quickly. Here's something incidental that should give you a smile: I don't think the talkback template was intended to be used the way you did; instead of Talk:Abraham Lincoln, it directed me to User talk:Abraham Lincoln. (What are the odds he has a WP account? :-) JustinTime55 (talk) 17:21, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha, that's what comes from not reading it *completely* before hitting 'Submit'. Shearonink (talk) 18:05, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Shearonink, I’m currently working on the page for David M. Cote and I’m seeking out guidance from experienced editors to collaborate with. I’ve disclosed my COI on the article talk page, but have yet to receive any responses there. When you have a quick moment, would you mind taking a look at the draft I have on my sandbox? I’d appreciate any feedback or suggestions you might have. Thanks! --FacultiesIntact (talk) 03:55, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

that we had talked about the Bath School disaster for long enough, the only dissenter had not shown up for a while, so it seemed that (as we say in my home) it's time to "move the goods." Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:28, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hi. To be honest, I've no idea why the links in the Harvard refs don't go anywhere and never have. Template:Harvard citation says the template makes "a one-directional link to the first matching citation template on the same page", so maybe that's why? I just converted them out of boredom and to make the article look cleaner. Perhaps someone at the Village Pump knows? Pinkadelica ^(Talk) 07:53, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello :-). I know that the lead section is used to describe the context end the reason for notability but in this particular case I think that it's confusing. The actress is notable for other reasons, for example for her role in Quincy, M.E., this is why I removed the sentence: currently it is not neutral and a bit biased. Thanks :) --Lucas (talk) 06:34, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Well perhaps, then, the sentence could have been edited to reflect more of Miss Gillette's various claims of notability rather then deleting much of its content? Anyway, I've since tweaked it a bit so more of her claims to notability are included. Shearonink (talk) 08:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I thought (perhaps a bit quickly :-) that it was better to delete a wrong information instead of keeping it, and I have to admin that I am not very good in summarizing (because we have very diffrent policies in it.wiki). But you are right: let me say that you did a great work in rephrasing the text, thanks for your help! :-) --Lucas (talk) 11:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Glad to help and all's well that ends well. Shearonink (talk) 16:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Shearonink,

Regarding your request for a re-assessment of Benjamin Franklin Graves, I've done a re-assessment, and it still appears as a Start class article to me. The key things that in my opinion would need to be addressed to move it up to a higher class are to make it longer and more comprehensive. Right now the article is only about 2500 bytes of prose, and focuses almost entirely on his involvement in the war of 1812. Though I know sources may not be available to tell us about much of the rest of his life, I would consider expansion in other areas key to moving him up to C class. However, don't think that this Start class means that it is not a worthwhile article. 1bandsaw (talk) 20:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. I was taking a look at the article assessment scale and thought it would at least be a C keeping in mind those stated parameters:

The article is substantial, but is still missing important content or contains much irrelevant material. The article should have some references to reliable sources, but may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup.

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Anyway, if you could point me which WikiProject you're referring to I'll take a look at their examples so maybe it can be worked up into at least the next Level. Thanks,Shearonink (talk) 22:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I was evaluating from the standpoint of Biography, as that's where I came across your request. I look forward to seeing more about B. F. Graves! 1bandsaw (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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Dropped you a note, only 2 years late. Worm^TT(talk) 15:45, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much, got it. Answer's still the same. Shearonink (talk) 16:28, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Ask again later? B'ah ;) Worm^TT(talk) 16:36, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure, lol, maybe in another two years?... Shearonink (talk) 08:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

B'ah is an expression of disappointment or frustration, just a noise I made when I read your reply. I'll bother you in less than 2 years, I don't intend to disappear onto Arbcom and forget about everything else this time! Worm^TT(talk) 08:19, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's nice that someone thinks I'm competent. Shearonink (talk) 08:21, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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I don't think you've understood what I've been trying to say about listing Jackie's friend's names. I think your change was a step in the right direction, but not the point. Look at this:

The two friends confirmed to the Post that they remembered meeting "Jackie" on the night of the incident, that she was distraught but not visibly injured or bloodied, and that details she provided then were different from those in the Rolling Stone article. One friend, Ryan Duffin (called "Randall" in the Rolling Stone article), told the Washington Post that he had never spoken to any reporter from Rolling Stone, despite the fact that Erdely had claimed him as a source to corroborate the accuser's story. [36] [27][37]

What I'm trying to say is that's how you should identify Jackie's friends. If you want to identify the other two, it should look like that: They're quoted or otherwise referenced by name and identified by alias in an RS. Are there facts worthy of inclusion for the other two similar to the above? If so, identify them the same way that Randall is identified above. If not, don't identify them. I'm not trying to stop you putting their names in. I figure that if you really want to, you can find passages in the RSs that justify identifying the other two. I'm just saying they should be identified iff such facts are added. Dingsuntil (talk) 04:28, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Guess what, I do understand what you've been saying. You don't like lists! You want the information to be integrated into the Wikipedia article! And, guess what? I *agree* with you. Look, I think it's important, These people stepped up and publicly identified themselves as the people at the heart of a huge media controversy. If they are willing to identify themselves their names shouldn't be left out of the Wikipedia article that reports on this event and its aftermath. These people are part of the story now, what their pseudonymous stand-ins are asserted to have done is part of it too, but the *people* should be given their personhood and allowed to have their part in this narrative. Crafting a Wikipedia article so this will all make timeline/linear sense will take some time, that's all. Shearonink (talk) 06:17, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. Dingsuntil (talk) 00:24, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note re MOS. Ordinarily I'd agree. In this case I think the article reads better with the links to the Rolling Stone article and retraction before the (vast) list of refs. Capitalismojo (talk) 02:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Fixed. I had tried refill but it didn't work. Capitalismojo (talk) 17:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Done, thanks! Capitalismojo (talk) 20:45, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

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Wednesday June 10, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our next evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. This month will also feature on our agenda: recent and upcoming editathons, the organization's Annual Meeting, and Chapter board elections. We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday June 10 WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 17:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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Wednesday July 8, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. This month will also feature on a review of past and upcoming editathons, including Black Lunch Table Editathon @ MoMA on July 13. We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday July 8 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 05:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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Sunday August 2, 1-7pm: WikNYC Picnic

You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck. Sunday August 2 WikNYC Picnic (RSVP) (also on meetup.com) 1pm–7pm - come by any time! @ Bartel-Pritchard Square entrance (Prospect Park West and 15th St), immediately on the lawn to your left as you walk through the lovely lotus columns. Subway: ​ to 15th Street – Prospect Park (IND Culver Line) We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 03:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC) (Bonus event: WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles - Wednedsay, August 19)

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Wednesday August 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday August 19 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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There is a White House.gov petition to change the name of the great peak that is active because it is a micro-aggression to African-Americans to honor a man who owned over 300 slaves. Links were provided (1) to support Washington's slavery ownership and (2) to the petition itself. These are third party facts, so why is it being censured? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxed2death (talk • contribs) 13:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

There is no censoring happening in this instance. The sources you provided in your previous edits to Mount Washington (New Hampshire) ‎did not prove the text you placed in that article. Now you're stating that there is a petition, but that is not the same as your previously-asserted "executive order from the President of the United States" (besides, Denali's name was not changed by a Presidential executive order it was changed on the Federal level by a secretarial order from Secretary of the Interior Jewell). Also, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is a compendium of information published in reliable sources and content is added or deleted through editorial consensus. If multiple editors are reverting content you have added to an article, then the next step you should take is to discuss the reverted content on the article's talk page, which is where any further discussion should take place.

If this renaming is an issue you feel passionately about I would suggest that you take User:Ken Gallager's advice as he posted in the Mt. Washington (NH) Revision section on his talk page. Shearonink (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Wednesday September 16, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project! We hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday September 16 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:12, 10 September 2015 (UTC) Bonus events, RSVP now for our latest upcoming editathons: September 20 - Afrocrowd Wikipedia editathon @ Queens Library October 3 - WikiArte Latin America editathon @ MoMA October 15 - Women in Architecture editathon @ Guggenheim

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Saturday October 3: WikiArte Latin America Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

You are invited to join us for a full Saturday (drop-in any time!) of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) for our upcoming "WikiArte" Latin America Edit-a-thon, for Wiki Arte y Cultura Latinoamericana, a communal day of creating, updating, improving, and translating Wikipedia articles about Latin American art and culture. Saturday October 3 WikiArte Edit-a-thon @ MoMA (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 11:00am - 5:00 pm (drop-in anytime!) at MoMA Cullman Education and Research Building, 4 West 54th Street All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required. We will provide training sessions and resources for beginner Wikipedians, WiFi, reference materials, and suggested topics, as well as childcare and refreshments. Please bring your laptop, power cord, and ideas for articles that need to be updated, translated, or created. You are welcome to edit all day or drop by to show your support, and to follow #WikiArte on social media! Trainings for new and less experienced Wikipedia editors will be offered (in English) at 11:30 a.m., 1:30 p.m., and 3:30 p.m. Tutorials and resources in Spanish will be available online, and participants are also encouraged to work on the Spanish and Portuguese language editions of Wikipedia. We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 10:33, 28 September 2015 (UTC) P.S. Next event, October 15 - Women in Architecture editathon @ Guggenheim

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Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim

You are invited to join us for a full afternoon and evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles covering the lives and works of women in architecture. Saturday October 15 Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). noon - 8pm (drop-in anytime!) at Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Garrett Lobby @ 1071 5th Ave by E 88 St In conjunction with Archtober and New York Archives Week, the Guggenheim will host its third Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon— to enhance articles related to women in architecture on Wikipedia. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of Ada Lovelace Day for STEM, and Art+Feminism for art, in a field that, by its nature combines both. The Guggenheim will work alongside ArchiteXX, the founders of WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design #wikiD, the international education and advocacy program working to increase the number of Wikipedia articles on women in architecture and the built environment. New and experienced editors are welcome. Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global partnerships page to discover an edit-a-thon in a city near you or simply join remotely. We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:34, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thursday October 15: Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim

You are invited to join us for a full day and evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Guggenheim (drop-in any time, noon-8pm!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles covering the lives and works of women in architecture. Thursday, October 15 Women in Architecture Edit-a-thon @ Guggenheim (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). noon - 8pm (drop-in anytime!) at Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Garrett Lobby @ 1071 5th Ave by E 88 St In conjunction with Archtober and New York Archives Week, the Guggenheim will host its third Wikipedia edit-a-thon—or, #guggathon—to enhance articles related to women in architecture on Wikipedia. The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of Ada Lovelace Day for STEM, and Art+Feminism for art, in a field that, by its nature combines both. The Guggenheim will work alongside ArchiteXX, the founders of WikiD: Women Wikipedia Design #wikiD, the international education and advocacy program working to increase the number of Wikipedia articles on women in architecture and the built environment. New and experienced editors are welcome. Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global partnerships page to discover an edit-a-thon in a city near you or simply join remotely. We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:58, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for your comment. Not sure if there is anything positive about this, but the broadest inclusion is not helpful.Parkwells (talk) 12:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

I know you don't want to be very active, but have tried to initiate discussion again at List of school shootings in the United States and List of school attacks to narrow criteria to something that might have meaning. These long lists of every act of violence that happened to occur at a school are useless. If the underlying interest is the rise in mass school shootings in the US in the late 20th century, which individual articles already attract great attention, let's focus the criteria. There is a chilling article about school shootings in this week's New Yorker, Malcolm Gladwell's "Thresholds of Violence", relating the rise in mass shootings (which seems to be the underlying interest in why these list article were founded) to studies about how riots develop - and attract different people as they roll along (including people who would never have been part of the initial violence). A list with a focus on mass school shootings in the United States, rather than every act of violence that happens to take place at a school, might be able to make use of such research and give readers more to think about.Parkwells (talk) 13:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

There's been a recent spate of additions (by mostly IP-editors and some possible SPAs/new editors) that seem to be including every minor scuffle, every misdemeanor assault that is occurring or has occurred in (especially) US schools and I find the trend troubling. I think the subject-matter would be better served by including incidents that attract nationwide/statewide/regional attention, appear in multiple media outlets (not just a single local paper/TV news) and incur some level of political/gun-control/mental-health/societal change. Another issue is how bloated these lists have become - List of attacks related to secondary schools is at 895kb and List of school shootings in the United States is at 775 kb!

But you're right, I don't know if I have the time or willpower right now for picking through the list and deleting the info-cruft. I might be able to provide some assistance but can't carry the flag in this issue.Shearonink (talk) 14:32, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on potential criteria; I agree these lists need to be reduced. I have discovered there are many other related lists, as well, such as List of rampage killers (school massacres), which requires only 2 fatalities for listing.Parkwells (talk) 14:36, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Someone had arbitrarily changed the criteria for the list above; the master list criteria make somewhat more sense. I deleted about 30 entries that didn't meet the criteria. Parkwells (talk) 16:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Two options for this Sunday: Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon & Women In Science Edit-a-thon

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for one of two edit-a-thons this Sunday, just bring your laptop and an interest in participating! No special knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia knowledge is required, and there will be Wikipedia training workshops for new folks. Soviet Jewry Edit-a-thon @ Center for Jewish History 15 West 16th Street, New York, NY 11:00 am - 4:00 pm, Sun Nov 22 Join at the Center for Jewish History (drop-in any time!), during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to the American Soviet Jewry movement. Women In Science Edit-a-thon @ NY Academy of Sciences 7 World Trade Center - 40th Floor 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm, Sun Nov 22 Join at the NY Academy of Sciences, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to the lives and works of women scientists. Note that seating is limited for the Women in Science event, as well as signing up on-wiki, please RSVP by email. Bonus event: December 9 - WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles

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It is not necessary to manually create a talk archive page. The archiving bot automatically does that on its first archiving run of a talk page. Additionally, doing this creates a blue link that misleads people into thinking archives exist when they don't. In the future, please let the archive bot create the page. Thanks. Safiel (talk) 02:52, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I was wondering why the talk page was starting to get unwieldy in length and thought it might be because no talk page archive had been established - I remembered the archive bots have been misbehaving recently & thought this might be another problem. And so now there's a temporarily empty archive page that doesn't have content (for the moment) and that is an issue...

Ok.

Well, anyway, I have been unable to find anything on Help:Archiving a talk page and How to Archive a Talk Page and User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo and Template:Talk archive that says the bot/s create the named archived-content pages (Talk: (Article title)/Archive 1) automatically - maybe you could clear up that misunderstanding on them and any other technical helps pages associated with archiving so others won't make my apparent mistake. Thanks. Shearonink (talk) 03:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

The Miszabots have been down for some time, but Lowercase sigmabot is now performing the archiving functions. The page in question may start to archive as early as tonight or in the next day or two. In any events, the bots do automatically create the page and automatically apply the header that is given in the configuration on the main talk page. Safiel (talk) 03:48, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I know the MiszaBot/s have been offline for a couple of years. I was referring to what seemed to be some archiving issues that sigmabot was having earlier this year, and, yes, I know from past experience that it can take a couple of days for archiving to kick in. I am, however, suggesting to you that the fact that the bot/s automatically create the "Talk:(Article name)/Archive #" pages is not clear. I am an editor with some experience, if I can make this apparent error others can as well (Heck, just take a look at [1] and [2] or how about the instructions at Template:Talk archive?) If people are following the instructions that they can find, there shouldn't be a problem. If what they are finding is incorrect, well, I was thinking you could help fix that. Thanks. Shearonink (talk) 04:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I will mention it to the owner of the bot account and see if he may be able to make the instructions more clear on that point. Since the pages are in user space, I would not be so bold as to edit it directly. Safiel (talk) 04:51, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I can let sigma know, that wasn't quite what I was trying to get across. My point is that it is not just the various archiving bot pages run by users, it is also all the other Wikipedia pages & its sister groups' pages associated with archiving...like "Template:Talk archive" etc. & the instructions page for archiving at Commons etc etc that are lacking the info: 1)that the bot/s will create the first archive page before moving the content there, 2)that editors do not need to manually create the first/empty archive-talk page in order for the bots to kick in and start moving the stale posts from the talk page to the archive. If I've missed it then other editors might too. Since you consider the blue-linking that occurred to be an issue and others like myself might be following the various instructions that they can find, I thought you would like to correct the situation yourself. Thanks. Shearonink (talk) 06:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Wednesday December 9, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project! We will also include a look at our annual plan and budget ideas, and welcome input from community members on the sorts of projects the chapter should support through both volunteer and budgetary efforts. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday December 9 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! (One talk this month will be on use of Wikipedia press passes for photographers.) Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:38, 4 December 2015 (UTC) Bonus events, RSVP now for our upcoming editathons: Saturday December 12 - Art & Law @ School of Visual Arts editathon Sunday December 13 - Black Film: AfroCROWD editathon

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