Talk:Chattampi Swamikal

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Admin, you have not given the citation for this sentence "Swami explored the roots of Kerala society and original inhabitants, and sociologically and genealogically connected most of the present groups in Kerala including the priestly class to common ancestors who were the original inhabitants known as the Nakas." In many texts, Nakas are described as warriors not groups of people with different professions. I am sharing some details about Nakas with sources,

From Selected Writings of Sri Chatambi Swamikal By S.Jagathsimhan Nair, Sri Chatambi Swamikal

1) Malayadri Mahatyam while referring to this land says: "By reason of being protected by landlords called Nakas with the sword in their hands."

2) To quote from ancient palm-leaf manuscripts in Vattezhuthu script:- "Hail the Nakas the ones with big moustaches , broad chest, powerful physiques, sacred ash-bearing forehead, hands powerful enough to smash the skull of a lion in one blow, who are masters in martial arts, extremely proficient in archery and use of swords, and so acrobatic that they can spring to great heights and do somersaults in air, capable of single-handedly driving back a herd of elephants."

Madras District Gazetteers: South Arcot by Madras (India: State), B. S. Baliga (Rao Bahadur) (1962)

In fact, in the Sangam and post-Sangam literature, Tamilaham was described as the land inhabited by a large number of communities such as, 1) Velir, who are identified with Vellalar 2) Karalar (agriculturists) 3) Kuravar (hillmen) 4) Vedar and Vettuvar (hunters) 5) Kurumbar and Idayar (shepherds) 6) Paradavar (fisherfolk) 7) Pulayar (who executed death sentences) 8) Paraiyar (who proclaimed royal order) 9) Tunnakarar (tailors) 10) Kadambar, Eyinar, Marayar (martial community) 11) Panar(bards/poets) 12) Koottar (jugglers/wizard/magician) 13) Yavanar (merchants from Greece and Rome) 14) Naga (serpent-worshippers) 15) Vadugar (people from the North of Venkatam hills) 16) Kosar (people from the Tulu country) There is also evidence to suggest that Raja Raja I recruited as his warriors and chiefs members from diverse communities living at the margin of the Kaveri heartland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.216.83.162 (talk) 09:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussions, if any, are invited by the author on this article profiling Chattampi Swamikal.

Aaroamal

7th Feb 2005

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 17:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article is bordering on being a hagiography and we don't do them here, even for saints. I'm also extremely concerned about the number of non-English sources that are being used, which also appear to be offline and in some cases appear possibly to have an affiliation with the man. Of course, there is nothing wrong with using offline sources or non-English ones but when it comes to subject matter such as this there is often a tendency for followers to embellish, to misrepresent and to show a lack of understanding of WP:RS. Is there really no alternative here? - Sitush (talk) 16:51, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I repeat my concern from three years ago, and ask people to review WP:HISTRS and WP:PRIMARY also. If this guy is so notable, there should be modern sources that discuss him. - Sitush (talk) 14:47, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Only three books are idenfied in English. Then there are five PhD dissertations, one in English and others in Sanskrit, Malyalam and Hindi. More than 500 other documents which includes books, and articles that hav been identified and listed are in Malayalam the language of his region. The book 'Chattampi Swami An Intellectual biography' in English documents the cream of content from all identified items mentioned above as an introductory guide for further research. Chattampi Swami and Narayana Guru are two very important personalities who contributed to modernizaton of Indian Society and most of the resources on them are still in local languages and scripts but it is a virgin area for further research. Dr. R. Raman Nair (talk) 10:56, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the issue of non-English sources but Chattampi Swami An Intellectual biography reads like a hagiography itself and, of course, is published by a body that has a close connection to the subject matter. - Sitush (talk) 12:27, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

India Post issued a commemorative stamp on Chattampi Swamikal. Kindly consider adding this too. -kodampuli

Can you provide a link to a website or news story for this? - Sitush (talk) 18:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Added.BudChrSch (talk) 16:11, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This page created very nearly and tried to state facts honestly But other pages from Kerala State India found badly corrupted and misguiding the facts which has been written and recorded by govt Sreeretnan (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So discuss those issues on the talk pages for those articles, not this one. - Sitush (talk) 06:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Poem on shri chattampi swamikal 223.189.49.57 (talk) 10:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poem 223.189.49.57 (talk) 10:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sree Narayana Guru was not a disciple of Chattambi. Some vested interest groups of Ramanand and team want to cook this story and promote. Afv12e (talk) 13:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]