Talk:Sick leave

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I noticed that the page seems to present sick leave from a somewhat skewed perspective. Specifically, the "Procedures on sickness absence reporting" section seems to assume a relatively micromanaged environment of day-to-day work. Many occupations, eg software development, University professor, actuary, are often subject to more relaxed reporting requirements due to their job being less time-sensitive. 216.36.186.2 (talk) 18:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, this article is extremely lopsided in favour of discussing Western sick leave policies - in particular the USA. This article could use the attention of somebody who has a global understanding of sick leave. 11:41, 30 March 2013 (GMT+12)

Thank you. I was thinking the same thing. 27 paragraphs about just the USA is rather disproportionate. — Fyrius (talk) 13:12, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The content of this article is about paid sick leave, and "sick leave" typically refers to paid time away from work. There seems to not be any Wikipedia article about the concept of "unpaid time off work". I looked in PubMed and Google Scholar for papers on the subject and could not immediately find anything.

Most workers in the world do not get paid time off work when they are sick or otherwise. If sources exist, I wish there could be a Wikipedia article on that topic. Does anyone have sources? Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:18, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Ziebarth has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:

1. Sick leave (or paid sick days or sick pay)

--> Sick leave (or paid sick leave or paid sick days or sick pay or medical leave)

2. Currently, only three US states and four US cities have laws mandating paid sick leave. In most US state legislatures there are laws pending that would guarantee paid sick leave. --> Currently, only four US states (Connecticut, California, Massachusetts, and Oregon) and a few US cities (NYC, Philadelphia, DC among others) have laws mandating paid sick leave. In many US state legislatures there are laws pending that would guarantee paid sick leave. While the mandates vary in comprehensiveness, most mandates allow employees to earn one hour of paid sick leave credit per 30-40 hours worked. Unused credit typically rolls over to the next calendar year.

Estimates as of 2011 suggest that 35 percent of US full-time employees have not paid sick leave coverage and that 3 million employees work sick every week. Coverage rates in the service and low-wage sector are below 20 percent. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1475-6773.12471/abstract

3. An analysis from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) --> An analysis from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) as of 2009 [...]. Most food service and hotel workers (78 percent) lack paid sick days.[5] More recent studies come to similar conclusions. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1475-6773.12471/abstract

4. Paid sick leave advocates assert that providing paid sick time can reduce turnover, increase productivity, and reduce the spread of contamination in the workplace.[8] --> add the following reference http://research.upjohn.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1257&context=up_workingpapers

5. However, 53 percent of working mothers and 48 percent of working fathers don’t have paid sick days to care for children.[11] --> However, in the US, 53 percent of working mothers and 48 percent of working fathers don’t have paid sick days to care for children.[11]

6.Thirty percent of workers report they contracted the flu from a colleague.[17] --> A study estimates that 3 million US employees work sick every week http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1475-6773.12471/abstract

7. The outbreak cost the Kent community between $130,233 and $305,337 in lost wages, lost productivity, and health care costs.[21] --> Next paragraph:

A recent study found that, after sick pay mandates were passed at the city level in the US, influenza-like disease rates decreased by about five percent in these cities. http://research.upjohn.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1257&context=up_workingpapers

8. Since 2006, an increasing number of cities and two states have implemented some form of paid sick leave: --> Since 2006, an increasing number of cities and four states have implemented some form of paid sick leave:

9. References for Sweden: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092753711200108X

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00181-012-0593-1

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047272705000290

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/3069652.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

10. References for Germany: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jae.2317/abstract

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0927537113001036

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047272710001180

11. More evidence from Norway:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167629610001499

We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

We believe Dr. Ziebarth has expertise on the topic of this article, since he has published relevant scholarly research:

• Reference : Pichler, Stefan & Ziebarth, Nicolas R., 2015. "The Pros and Cons of Sick Pay Schemes: A Method to Test for Contagious Presenteeism and Shirking Behavior," IZA Discussion Papers 8850, Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA).

ExpertIdeasBot (talk) 18:07, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Vadovic has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:

This article looks excellent. I have not been working on this topic for about 10 years and so I do not have the expertise in the area anymore. Treble is an expert who might be able to improve the article.

We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

We believe Dr. Vadovic has expertise on the topic of this article, since he has published relevant scholarly research:

• Reference 1: Stefan Bauernschuster & Jorg Oechssler & Peter Duersch & Radovan Vadovic, 2009. "Mandatory Sick Pay Provision: A Labor Market Experiment," Jena Economic Research Papers 2009-076, Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Max-Planck-Institute of Economics.

• Reference 2: Peter Dursch & Jorg Oechssler & Radovan Vadovic, 2008. "Sick Pay Provision in Experimental Labor Markets," Working Papers 0476, University of Heidelberg, Department of Economics, revised Oct 2008.

ExpertIdeasBot (talk) 15:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The "potential benefits" and "opposition" sections should be changed into an impact section. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sickie. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 9#Sickie until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. — Smjg (talk) 19:41, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Sickie has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 23 § Sickie until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 20:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Personal leave has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 26 § Personal leave until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 19:12, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]