Talk:Murder of Ronan Kerr

This article was nominated for deletion on 7 July 2011 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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Was surprised that this article didn't exist so I have created a stub. This could be moved to a title referring to the murder rather than an article under Ronan Kerr's name if that is felt to be appropriate. LukeSurl ^{t c} 00:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• This article was just nominated, and quickly de-nominated, for speedy deletion on 2011-07-04. I will say that the murder of PC Ronan Kerr, and the reaction to it, was a very large news story in the UK for several days after the event. This can be seen by running a search for the "Ronan Kerr" the BBC news website. LukeSurl ^{t c} 13:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Completely unacceptable to use the term murder. It is fair for you to consider it murder but the article should be retitled "Killing of Ronan Kerr" and use non-partisan terminology. Articles on all attacks by politically motivated groups avoid using the term "murder".--93.107.109.87 (talk) 10:58, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Must agree, article should be renamed "Killing of Ronan Kerr" to keep it non-partisan.--CommieMark (talk) 00:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to this source those that claimed the attack "insisted they were entirely separate from the Real IRA, Oglaigh na hEireann (ONH), and the Continuity IRA - and were intent on remaining so". Thus, although they may claim to be the "Real" IRA in a literal sense, I don't believe saying that Kerr was killed by the Real IRA is accurate. LukeSurl ^{t c} 20:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On 30 January 2017 Apollo The Logician removed Category:Terrorism deaths in Northern Ireland. Immediately after posting this mesage I will add it back.

In my opinion, this murder fits the definition of a terrorist act:

• It was committed for political reasons, Kerr was killed because he was a PSNI officer.
• It was committed by non-state actors.
• The death was considered part of the dissident Irish Republican campaign in the media.

--LukeSurl ^{t c} 11:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is wikipedia policy not to refer to either loyalist or republican terrorists as terrorists. Apollo The Logician (talk) 16:41, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you link me to this policy please? --LukeSurl ^{t c} 21:10, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I cant remember what it is called but I will try to find it. Apollo The Logician (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo The Logician did you manage to find it? --LukeSurl ^{t c} 11:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nope but it doesn't really matter its not that big of a deal. Apollo The Logician (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC) Apollo The Logician (talk) 11:50, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]