Talk:Yoga in Rishikesh

The reason this article was spun off from Rishikesh is that the number of yoga listings in that article was overwhelming. But is it becoming overwhelming even in a standalone article, and should we adopt some kind of arbitrary listings limit?

Otherwise, the main issues remain touting, a lack of order (alphabetizing all these listings will be an annoying job but should be done) and totally unnecessary repetitions of words like the name of the city and the names of individual yoga centers, which should be removed from the "content" tabs of listings. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I did a bunch of that culling. Other than that, I'd just leave it. I wouldn't try to cap the number of schools. Travellers looking for training will enjoy the wealth of choices. Alphabetize if you like. Its a good way to satisfy any OCD urges you might have. Ground Zero (talk) 23:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

You're probably right. Thanks a lot for your edits! I don't think anyone who knows me would say I have OCD, but long lists with no order don't best serve the traveler. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Someone else did a lot of alphabetizing & I've just done a bit more, but it is not finished. Pashley (talk) 07:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Okay, so having a read of this article, all I get is a list of yoga schools and have no description, or are just too touty. Why can't this list be shortened to some of them which travellers can actually go to? Most of them just list "200 hour, 300 hour or 500 hour" training, but provide little info for travellers. (Please take this as constructive criticism, but reading this makes me dizzy. I'm sorry if it sounds harsh.) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:22, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

The purpose of this article is that the Rishikesh article was being overwhelmed by yoga listings, and also that the city is very famous for yoga. But please delete or detout any listings you find to be touty. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:26, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'd want to, but I get dizzy when I read swathes of ink. (Not as bad as User talk:Luchy04 and maps of downtown in LA though, but still too much). I'll try my best. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:30, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Ikan Kekek: I did a little bit of detouting, might do some more. I apologise in advance if I sound like I'm criticising Yoga, but the touting here is more than what I expected. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:14, 28 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Are there certifications of schools or instructors that a potential student should look for? Should we encourage people writing listings to include these? Delete listings for places without them?

To my non-diver surprise, PADI is not the only SCUBA certification worth having; see Scuba_diving#Check_in_with_the_dive_centre. Is the situation for yoga similarly complicated? Or is Yoga Alliance the one to have? Pashley (talk) 12:23, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I added something about certification in the intro. I'm not at all sure I got it right; I'm not a yogi and based it on (quick, possibly inadequate) web search. Pashley (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Yoga Alliance seems to be a purely U.S. foundation. In the board only one out of nine is Indian, and it seems the leadership team is equally U.S.-centric. Thus I wouldn't require their certification to be listed in an Indian city, for a listing of an Indian tradition. May be Rishikesh yoga is mostly targeted at Westerners, but if somebody sets up a school in an Indian non-Western tradition, we shouldn't discriminate against them.

If we had half a dozen of listings with good descriptions, I wouldn't protest somebody deleting the rest. Sadly, I don't think there is a single good listing. Thus, to prune the list, we would need somebody with enough knowledge, trust and time to research the situation. For the foreseeable future, I think we cannot do much better than have this ridiculous list and let those interested in travelling here for yoga do their own research. Certainly a long random list is still better than having nothing.

Ideally we would have a good article on yoga, which would tell what to look for when searching for a good school (beside other content). Those criteria could be used on the listings here.

–LPfi (talk) 13:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yes, yoga article seems needed. Alalch E. (talk) 14:04, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

The closest thing to that that we have is Meditation. There is certainly overlap. It barely even mentions Yoga, however. Alalch E. (talk) 14:07, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

This is somewhat famous because the Beatles & other stars visited it. Looking online, it appears it is now abandoned but can still be visited.

Neither this article nor Rishikesh currently mention it. Should they? Pashley (talk) 15:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

The ashram and the Beatles episode are mentioned in the lead of Rishikesh, and yes, I think the ashram should have a listing, here if it offers yoga, in Rishikesh#See if you can visit it without taking a course. See also Talk:Rishikesh#Incomprehensible addition; User:Sumita Roy Dutta added (in 2018) info that it was "closed til Dec 2015 [but] has been reopened to the public", plus prices etc. and a related mention of Rajaji Tiger Reserve. I reverted – I couldn't make it a proper listing nor reword it to fit the lead. Do we now have enough information to say more than we currently do? –LPfi (talk) 16:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply