User talk:WolfmanSF/List of island megafauna

umm is it ok if i help u with this article.--Jasonz2z (talk) 01:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

like the dwarf cassowary and the northern cassowary. and the Long beaked chidna. and the phillipenes eagle, the japanese giant salamander, snow monkeys, Sunda clouded leopards, babirusa, etc i'll try and research more and do subspecies count in your list?--Jasonz2z (talk) 02:26, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead if you want to. It isn't really my article - it was put in my user space after being deleted from Wikipedia proper (along with most other lists of megafauna).

It would take a fair amount of work to bring it up to a quality level where I would feel comfortable trying to get it put back into the encyclopedia, and there's no guarantee that's ever going to happen. Also, you should be aware that one of the most common definitions of "megafauna" entails an adult weight of over 100 pounds; by that criterion, most of your examples would not qualify. WolfmanSF (talk) 02:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It might be easier for you to just create a list of species you think could be added. WolfmanSF (talk) 07:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

yah but there are tons of animals in the list that don't weigh 100 pounds or over, like the tasmanian devil the wooping crane the ivory billed woodpecker, and alot of others plus as i asked b4 du subspecies count in this list?--Jasonz2z (talk) 13:05, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are lots of animals on the list that don't belong there. That's one of the reasons the article was deleted. Subspecies should be OK (if they're over 100 pounds as adults). WolfmanSF (talk) 17:32, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ok then, i shall procede on and find other acceptable candidates.--Jasonz2z (talk) 17:59, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The famale Northen Cassowary can reach 130 pounds, the sumatran tiger can weigh 200-300 pounds, the Sri Lankan Sloth Bear can be 220-300 pounds, the Hawaiian monk seal can be from 300-600 pounds, Kodiak bears 500-1400 pounds, babirusa 95-220 pounds, the New Guinea Crocodile and the bornean elephant and evan if they were introduced to bornea its believed that they would have been desendent of javan elephants that were transported from java (wich is another nearby island) where until relatively recently elephants did rome until their extinction on java so if the few elephants that were transported to borneo had escaped into wild of bornea would still be classified as a subspecies and as an island megafauna.--Jasonz2z (talk) 20:07, 5 March 2011 (UTC)\[reply]

I think we should leave off the monk seal, since it is primarily a marine species (like penguins). WolfmanSF (talk) 22:18, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

u mean semi-aquitic cause theirs a big diffrence between being semi-aquitic and being marine cause being semi-aquitic you must live both on land and water to survive but being marine means your more adapted to life in the water and you don't need to ever go on land like a fish or whal while a seal and a hippo need to go in the water to feed(seal) or keep their skin moist or else they will die from heat stroke from being in the sun for just a couple moments(hippo) but the seal must go back on land to breed and give while the hippo must go back on land to feed(at night or morning). and the hippo is semi-aquitic yet its listed in the list so why? so if your gonna take out seals then you must take out the hippo aswel cause they are classified as semi aquatic just like the seal and the penguine so i insist u take that out aswell cause then u'll just look like a hypercrit, no offence.--Jasonz2z (talk) 22:37, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, there is a distinction between living in rivers (which can be considered part of a land mass) and living in the ocean. A fresh water seal on an island would be OK. WolfmanSF (talk) 23:39, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ok, i c.--Jasonz2z (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do u want megafauna animals that appear only on islands or megafauna that appear both on mainland and island cause if u only want animals that only are native to islands then i c a problem because the javan rhinocerus is ofcourse native to java cause thats were it was discovered and so it was named after that but it is also found on a small area on the mainland of asia called cat tien, just check the map.--Jasonz2z (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think as long as a species or subspecies is known primarily from islands it is OK. (There are small populations of both Javan and Sumatran rhinos on the Asian mainland.) WolfmanSF (talk) 00:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

the Scottish red deer native to the islands of scottland, ireland, and britan and although i didnt find enough information to know the weight of this sub species i did do research on its species the red deer and i found that the heavest red deer sub sepcies (not this one) can weigh 1,100 and the lightest red deer subspecies wich is the Corsican Red Deer can weigh 180-220 pounds so the scottish red deers weight is some where between 180-1,100 pounds so evan if its the 2nd lightest red deer subspecies it would still be heavy enough to be classified as an island megafauna.--Jasonz2z (talk) 00:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. WolfmanSF (talk) 00:57, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i also found 4 other ungulates , the japanese serow wich can weigh from 66-286 pounds and the Formosan Sika Deer wich can weigh 66–150 lb's. And the Cedros island mule deer, with males weighing 150–300 pounds and females 125–175 pounds, and its very hard to find a mega fauna in the islands of the medaterranian sea but i did fing 1 and i already have it above the corsican red deer. --Jasonz2z (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

there are 4 species of wild pig native to the phillipenes all weigh around 330 lb's exept for the Oliver's Warty Pig wich is rather small, there is one subspecies of bearded pig also native to their and borneo but their is not much information about it.--Jasonz2z (talk) 01:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Javan leopard can get to 123-169 pounds pretty much the same for the Sri Lankan Leopard .--Jasonz2z (talk) 01:24, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

well i found another animal for the list its the bornean sun bear only native to borneo and is a subspecies of sun bear, but we have a problem, their is no article on the bornean sun bear just the sun bear, so is it ok if i write bornean sun bear but have the link take it to the sun bear artcle instead, and i will still right the subspecies scientific name right next to the link. so would that be ok?--Jasonz2z (talk) 01:29, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds fine. WolfmanSF (talk) 01:31, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

== Class Mammalia ==

• †Giant fossa (Cryptoprocta spelea)

Sorry, the giant fossa was only about 20 kg (44 lb), not generally large enough to be considered megafauna. (Maaf, fossa raksasa hanya sekitar 20 kg (44 lb), umumnya tidak cukup besar untuk dipertimbangkan megafauna.) WolfmanSF (talk) 05:26, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]