User talk:RenanIL96

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Mottezen (talk) 05:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello RenanIL96. I see you have added some historical material to the article on Alfred University. I am in process of revising the entire article so that it conforms with Wikipedia's criteria. Do you plan to include more material, or are you finished with your current work on the article. If you want to continue working on the article, I would ask that you give me a chance to finish my revisions, which may take a couple months.

Best wishes, Mindemoyawikieditor 12:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)~

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Doric Loon was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

The main problem I see here is that all the citations are to primary sources, i.e. the literature of this group itself.

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Doric Loon (talk) 16:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RenanIL96! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Doric Loon (talk) 16:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Nearlyevil665 were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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nearlyevil665 19:58, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RenanIL96. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Seventh Day Baptist World Federation, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 14:06, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I see that you have edited several articles with edit summaries such as "Removed non-existing hyperlinks." This can often be useful, but please take care to keep useful links, even if they do not yet have an article. In general, a red link should remain in an article if it links to a title that could plausibly sustain an article. Only remove red links if Wikipedia should not have an article on the subject. Thanks, Certes (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you. RenanIL96 (talk) 00:52, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I saw your request for help on the Christianity notice board about the Baptist draft that keeps being declined. If you are still interested, I am willing to help you. I see that you are now in grad school, so you may no longer have time - or interest - but if you do, just ping me, and I will do my best to help in any way I can. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:13, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello User:Jenhawk777, I saw your willingness to help me in the article. Sorry I was absent from wikipedia these days. In my sandbox is the article the way I tried to publish it and I think that with this link, you will be able to see the problems that were indicated by the reviewers as I made the submissions for publication. It got to a point where I didn't know what to do so I posted help on that thread. This article exists on the Spanish and Portuguese language wikipedia, so I was trying to reach 500 edits on the English wikipedia to release the article translation feature in my account, I think it would be better accepted and not rejected by the reviewers. I greatly appreciate your help and am willing to contemplate your directions. RenanIL96 (talk) 16:36, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help in any way I can. I will take a look at it as soon as I am able. I will try later tonight, but this weekend is a holiday weekend (The fourth of July) in the states and I am having company, so it may be a couple days. No worries! We will get it worked out together. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:37, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have read through and made some changes already that you may or may not like. Your first section was not a proper Wikipedia lead, so I have now retitled it "Description". A lead is not like an introduction; it's a summary of what's in the article. There should be a sentence in it describing each section. Because of that, it is often easier to write the lead when the rest of the article is finished. Please take a little time and read this: [[1]] It explains. that The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies

Also, you have done too much "close paraphrasing" - copying a sentence and changing one word will get you in trouble on WP for plagiarism. Failure to quote and attribute the quote to whoever said it will also get you in trouble. Plagiarism automatically fails an article. I screw this up every now and then myself so I know whereof I speak. So far they'v e been real nice about it. If you keep doing this, the great copyright-vio fairy in the WP sky will come along and blank everything you've been working on - and then hide it from you. If you copy something to work on it, which you are not supposed to do, quote it, or change it to a proper paraphrase before saving it. I apologize if I'm being too abrupt. I'm very tired. I'll be back in the next couple of days. Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your changes, it was more coherent, I liked it. By no means are you being abrupt. I'm glad you're willing to help, God bless you for that. About the "description" I read and saved in my favorites, it's good to learn more every day to use wikipedia as an editor. As for the paraphrase, I understand exactly what you say. For me it is a little more difficult to work with this, because my native language is not English and I know very little to speak in English, I use Google Translate to help me, but it is good to have a native English speaker to support me in this. Finally, don't worry about the frequency of your changes and only do it when you're really not busy and you're rested, I also have my chores and work so I take a few days to answer you too, what you're doing is already something surprising. Thanks again. RenanIL96 (talk) 17:20, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm into "history" now and am finding a few more sources, but I have a question for you. This sentence In 1986 the third meeting was held once again in Westerly, Rhode Island, where for the first time all representatives were able to participate in the meeting, given that because of the distance and financial resources many conferences are unable to send representatives to the meetings has no source listed that I can check and it reads wrong, but I can't tell which way is right. Did all the representatives participate? That's what it says right now. If that's so, then why is there an explanation for why they couldn't? Those two things together don't work. And the sentence needs a source at the end of it - even if it's at the end of the paragraph.

When I started school as a young child, I lived in Argentina. We did all our lessons in Spanish in the morning then in English in the afternoon. Word order in sentence structure in the one language is virtually the opposite to the other. I remember! English is a very difficult language to learn - at least partly because it has absorbed so many aspects of other languages. It is flexible, but that also means there are very few consistent rules. I don't know, but I think learning to write it is probably even harder than speaking it. I admire you! Don't worry about any of that. English was one of my three college majors, and I know the rules and will fix any problems I find. I will try to explain what and why in "reasons" but if you ever have any questions about any of it, just ask. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RenanIL96 Please, I need to know about that sentence on the third meeting that says two opposite things that can't both be correct: In 1986 the third meeting was held once again in Westerly, Rhode Island, where for the first time all representatives were able to participate in the meeting, given that because of the distance and financial resources many conferences are unable to send representatives to the meetings. Was it former meetings - meetings 1 and 2 - that weren't attended and this one was? Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm sorry for the delay, I enter WP on weekends, but I'll try to enter during the week so I can respond faster. Exactly! My native language is Portuguese and the word order is unlike English, among other different structures, this makes it very difficult.

As for the sentence: Yes! In meetings 1 and 2 not all conference representatives were present, however, in meeting 3 they were all present. And the text (...given that...) then explains why not everyone was present at meeting 1 and 2. When I wrote this article in Portuguese, there is no such confusion. However, in view of your note, I realize that when translating this paragraph into English, I translated it wrong and it got confused!

Okay, if I have any doubts I'll point them out to you, but for now, it's getting better, thank you! RenanIL96 (talk) 00:28, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that clears it up completely. It's okay if you can only respond on weekends, I just didn't know that, so now I do, and I can wait more patiently. It's coming along fine I think. I am searching for as many sources as I can find since part of the criticism you got was about sources. I ha ve found a few I think. We'll get it! Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:25, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I left on an "unplugged" vacation for awhile and had no computer!!! It was actually good. I am back as of yesterday, and will finish this tonight I think. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, you're done - at least as far as it goes. The article has no lead, and it must have one before being submitted. The lead must be a short summary of what is in the article. Write a sentence (or two) that describes/summarizes what's in each section. Put those sentences together into a paragraph or two at the top. The lead is not an introduction as much as it is a summary of content. When you have completed that, ping me. Do you know how? Just copy and paste my user name here (including the brackets) and tell me it's done and the system will notify me. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vacation is always good!!! Okay, I'll do it, thank you very much! RenanIL96 (talk) 19:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a short lead. Since I invested in this with you, I did not like seeing it just sit there! I cannot pass this for publication myself since I was involved in its writing, but I think you can present it now, and I believe it will pass. I hope you will give that a try. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:52, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK!!!! thanks for everythin!!!!! even though I'm busy and out you still didn't stop. I really appreciate the work, I had already tried and I was not successful and I didn't know what to do. I'm going to submit it, I wanted to ask you: do I modify that old draft and submit it or do I start a new publication? RenanIL96 (talk) 12:19, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, after a long time away from Wikipedia I've picked up where I left off. I took the liberty of creating another draft and published it exactly as you left it. It has already been sent for review, let's wait for the next chapters. Thanks for everything Jenhawk. RenanIL96 (talk) 13:25, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RenanIL96. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Seventh Day Baptist World Federation".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MarcGarver was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

The tone is not correct and is overly promotional. This is because, in part, you are relying heavily for sources on their own material - nearly every reference is associated with the organisation itself. You need independent reliable sources and a less promotional tone.

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MarcGarver (talk) 14:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RenanIL96. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Seventh Day Baptist World Federation, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:21, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

The sources are almost entirely primary, and mostly close to the subject. I don't know whether Christianity Today is a reliable and independent source, but in any case it doesn't provide significant coverage of the Federation. This leaves only sources #2 and 3, and even if they fully meet the standard required for notability per WP:GNG (which personally I doubt), they wouldn't be enough to satisfy WP:ORGCRIT. Also, this still has a vaguely promotional tone, with expressions like "the Federation has brought together individuals and conferences that have contributed to humanitarian aid in places with basic life needs and health risks". This is just marketing speak, and doesn't tell us anything meaningful about the Federation's activities. (Needless to say, this is just an example.)

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:22, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]