User talk:Exxoo

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I just saw the barnstar you awarded to me on January 8. Mdw0 left a message on my talk page on January 9 and when the new message sign showed then I thought that his message was it and did not look any further.

Thank you. I appreciate it a lot  :)

JSR 0562 07:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome. You deserve it. Exxoo (talk) 08:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mdw0 raised a valid point when he mentioned 'uniquely Indian' inventions. If we add inventions with just an Indian connection then the whole list will be disputed later. We have to be selective as far as the list is concerned but we can add it to the main snooker article. As a rule the material added in the list should be followed up in the main article (we have badminton in the list but not in the main article) because good sources and relevant history of the item in the list can be used there. JSR 0562 05:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While looking for modern inventions I suggest that you begin with the Shanti Swarup Bhatnagar Awardees and their biographies on Wikipedia. Also some scientists mentioned at the Vigyan Prasar Science Portal have also made several contributions not mentioned on the site or on Wikipedia. JSR 0562 15:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The SLS innovation is notable and can be added (possibly with global impact and mention of its follow up in other countries). If a few sources can be found (I ran a search on Google Books and it seems that a lot of books on the topic exist) then even a stub class article on the lines of Crescograph or Ramachandran Plot can be created in addition to the mention in the "List of..." article.

I also found that some innovations are just hard to describe, for example Autar Singh Paintal did something but the devil is in how to put him there with wikilinks and such.

JSR 0562 04:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that we can put the splits and such on hold for now. If the list gets too big then we can just split on the line of 'inventions' and 'discoveries'. Categorization on lines of inventors is something that is better done on list of Indian scientists and on the Indian inventions list we should keep our alphabetical order. On the subject of 'uniquely Indian' inventions I put the joint inventions in a 'contributions' section. Such a section can still be created.

JSR 0562 16:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If 'Ramanujan's sum, Ramanujan's Theta etc.' can have separate descriptions then all the better. They were added when the list was in early stages. JSR 0562 05:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Give me some time. I have just come back from Delhi and will look into it as soon as I next get back to my computer :) I would suggest downloading a few articles from the Indian Journal of History of Science while you are busy to actively edit on Wikipedia. Its a good idea to collect copies of source material first (Wikipedia is going to be here whether we take a month or two off). I also suggest that you look into IJHS articles such as Seismological Zones of Varahimira for some discoveries. JSR 0562 08:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lets just put "The term India in this article encompasses the greatest extent of territory of British India including the princely states as well as Portugese, French, Danish and Dutch enclaves before the partition of India in 1947, and the territory of only the Republic of India post-partition" in a footnote and keep our history of India wikilink as well. I have only removed the 'enclaves for invention '.

Regarding ISRO: I have tried a few things and they don't seem to work. If you could give it some more time then I would appreciate it. I have some really good sources for education in India and I have to leave for Delhi in two days or so. I wanted to have a framework or such for that article, which is in a terrible state, before that time.

Meanwhile for SLS, I just ran a Google search and came up with these sources:

• http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN019004.pdf

• http://books.google.co.in/books?hl=en&lr=&id=wVsWtVRp-mYC&oi=fnd&pg=PA135&dq=Same+Language+Subtitling&ots=xUVHoMS9HJ&sig=_tU6ryagOGDqleIEKl8djVuc_t4

• http://books.google.co.in/books?hl=en&lr=&id=rTxBOO5UENgC&oi=fnd&pg=PA213&dq=Same+Language+Subtitling+Kothari&ots=aCwlJMsmFh&sig=n30a1dQ5q8m6yzTX2Y8MaWnwcK0

• http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~brij/epw.doc

Hope that helps :)

JSR 0562 06:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean in both SLS and the footnote. I found another article on UNESCO but that too was authored by Kothari. I had no idea that those kind of footnotes existed. They look good and do the job well :) JSR 0562 20:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found that sort of footnote thingy from another article and just adpoted it here. It seems there' some work to be done based on the assesment. Exxoo (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		For consistently working with others in accordance with Wikipedia policies I award The Teamwork Barnstar to Exxoo JSR 0562 17:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your adherence to Wikiedia policies and citing with scholarly material is appreciated. As is your team spirit and recognition of Wikipedia as a community.

I am going to be out of major editing at least for a while so my plans for division of History of Science and Technology in India or splitting/expansion of List of Indian inventions are on hold. I may be around to make a few random edits but would prefer to be off Wiki till Feb end due to job commitments. I might take long to reply till then.

I have taken the liberty to copy/paste the barnstar to your userpage. I hope you don't mind and please take it down if you wish to.

Sincerely, JSR 0562 17:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The education in India article, a top importance article under WP: India, has recently been rewritten by me. Though the rewrite is is no way complete I invite you to take a look and see, and if possible contribute. Sincerely, JSR 0562 18:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Give me some time to look into it. Nearly every article on my watchlist has been neglected for a long time now. As a rule, it is a good idea to use information from books and journals rather than websites because a few of those examples can be bought in to question the integrity of the entire article. However, if a Google check is to be run then another good idea is to run it through .in and .gov domains. JSR 0562 05:19, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I am not dragging my feet but I need some more time for replying. I have been asking for some sources for history of education in India and they have arrived and I have collected a few myself. The Islamic era was one that gave me maximum headache but its all here and I have to get to that one article before I get to repairing others on my watchlist :) JSR 0562 18:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For SLS I would suggest taking up the books co-authored by Kothari. The books passed a review and were published in respectable publications. Moreover they can be used as supporting citations. The weblinks, especially the Asian Film Foundation link, can work with some additional support. Ashoka.org seems to be a respectable NGO but the more scholarly the material the better. I can help put in the Kothari authored works. For Simputer footnote 126 does little else than support 127. 126 is a commercial source full of advertisements even though it has no outstanding issues of reliability.

I have to put the busy tag on my userpage till Monday. I have the history of education in India draft ready but would like to save it on Wikipedia when I have time for the many queries and suggestions that would naturally come up. Meanwhile I discovered that the Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bangladesh is available online. Just thought you would like to see some issues that deal with history and in some cases, folk science. Other works of interest may be Harpers Dictionary of Classical Antiquities and the Harvard Magazine :) JSR 0562 00:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I sent the other link because, purely as a matter of chance, I stumbled onto this and a cursory online search showed this. JSR 0562 07:22, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was planing a rewrite of history of education in India since late February but could not get to it earlier due to time constraints. I have rewritten it recently. Don't forget to take a look and thanks in advance for your time :) JSR 0562 19:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy yourself and don't worry about here. Wikipedia can always wait since its always here so take your time and edit whenever you return back home. I'll keep watch over the page. :) JSR 0562 05:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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