User talk:Coren/Archives/2009/November

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Hi I am trying to create an article about this important London landmark. I took some of the material from the Wikipedia article on Martin Sharp, then was warned about copyright violation. It turns out that the section Martin_Sharp#The_Pheasantry is copied verbatim from this site which was copyright in 2002. What shall I do? I didn't have anything to do with the article on Sharp. West one girl (talk) 13:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Greetings, The reason why it appears that some of the text in the house of blue hope posting is similar to the razoo website is because I wrote both pages. Is there an issue of me using the same work for both? ~Jenna —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlriedi (talk • contribs) 17:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

CSBot flagged my new entry for Liljestrand House for copyright violation because it cited the same piece of text found on another site. But that piece of text was enclosed in quotes and sourced to the same work cited on the other site, to which I will add an external link. Joel (talk) 22:15, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out. I was splitting the Subsidiarity article as it was a mess of two ideas. I'll check the consequences. --Red King (talk) 20:18, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, on checking, I see that the wordIQ article is actually a copy of the original Wikipedia article on Subsidiarity, so there is no copyvio. At least not from here. --Red King (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I am uploading information to Lynchburg College Men's Club Soccer as the founder, former president, and current webmaster. The information is my own work and can be confirmed by emailing me at Callahan@lcclubsoccer.com. Wildcardajc (talk) 01:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC) Alfred Callahan 11/02/09 20:27EST

I have had my material removed twice. One was my upload of Dansearts (I am the technical director, webmaster and boyfriend of the owner) and this can be confirmed at Callahan@dansearts.com.

I also had material deleted trying to upload Lynchburg College Men's Club Soccer. I am the founder, former president, and current webmaster and can be confirmed at Callahan@lcclubsoccer.com.

--Wildcardajc (talk) 01:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I have had my material removed twice. One was my upload of Dansearts (I am the technical director, webmaster and boyfriend of the owner) and this can be confirmed at Callahan@dansearts.com.

I also had material deleted trying to upload Lynchburg College Men's Club Soccer. I am the founder, former president, and current webmaster and can be confirmed at Callahan@lcclubsoccer.com.

--Wildcardajc (talk) 01:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for the process for verifying copyright ownership. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 01:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

The listing of the subject's early places of study seems to have triggered the CSB alert. I have made minor changes and hope it is now OK.

Tomintoul (talk) 11:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

To whom it may concern... The reason why it appears that some of the text in the sound of speed (band) posting is similar to the thestranger.com website is because I wrote both pages. Is there an issue of me using the same work for both? Thank you for your work -- Tim S Thesoundofspeed (talk) 01:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

This one is interesting, Coming to you Live (Flashpoint episode) was tagged by CSB but not listed at the day's SCV page. It was caught by DumbBOT instead. MLauba (talk) 10:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh! How odd. I'm looking at the fact that it occurred at 00:00 on the spot, though, and thinking that might be related. Perhaps it got confused about where it should have posted the notification and failed because of that? (I suppose it's possible it got an edit token on the Nov. 1st page then tried to use it to edit the Nov. 2nd). I'll look into it, but that's going to be darn hard to track down and test. — Coren ^(talk) 11:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

For your meesage re. Open Wireless Architecture,

USCWC, B3G, OWA-Lab, World Wireless Congress, etc all properties of Delson Group Inc. So we own copyright, trademarks, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by C4GSH (talk • contribs) 23:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

You react to soon i was still editting that page on Blaukrans RiverFlagman (talk) 11:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC) again to fast for me to react, did not know there was an article on passes!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdiest (talk • contribs) 12:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Youre reacting too soon i am still editting that page. Its just an opening post to be edited. The website your bot picked up is a copy of the centre's own website, More details will be added.Cathar11 (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren!

I recieved a message from you saying that i have copied substantial text from this website - http://radiocontrolledcar.eu/amal_motorcycle_en.html

This is in fact the other way round and the original copy can be found here - http://www.amalcarb.co.uk/CompanyProfile.aspx

I can confirm that i am an employee of SU and AMAL and am looking to update these pages so that the correct information is available to the public through your website.

I hope this is ok, i dont quite understand how to verify that this information is all correct and we are the sole manufacturers of both SU and AMAL product. Any queries please can you contact me?

Best regards,

Ben Coombs - Burlen Fuel Systems Limited —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burlenwiki (talk • contribs) 16:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

This template appeared to be an orphan, so I nominated it at WP:TFD. Let me know if it's being used in some useful fashion that I am unaware of. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the bot for which it was intended never ended up being used after all. I've blasted it. — Coren ^(talk) 23:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I have amended text to avoid direct quotes from www.tolmers.org.uk. Trust this is now acceptable.Alansplodge (talk) 19:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I am here in regard to the Ukrainian Youth Association Article and one of the references

I am an administrator of that page (the reference) does that matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moussienko (talk • contribs) 09:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren, thanks for sorting out the new-look CSB, it all looks good! I do have one request to streamline the procedure for us SCV volunteers, however. Would it be possible, when the bot first creates a daily subpage, for it to place the date as a header at the top of the page? This would mean that clicking "edit" on the main SCV page would directly open that day's subpage, rather than having to navigate to the page and edit it directly. It'd also bring it into line with usual practice for transcluded subpages, such as at WP:CP etc. I'm not sure how difficult this'd be for you to implement, but if you have the time, it'd be much appreciated. – Toon 15:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Should be fairly easy. Do you have a sample "empty" page format you'd like me to use? — Coren ^(talk) 23:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I've made a sample at User:Toon05/SCV mockup. The date format's not really important, but the level 5 headers are needed due to the page now also being transcluded at WP:CP. That look possible? – Toon 14:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Your bot tagged this article Military Law Task Force but I think it was a bad hit. There are some longish quotes, but they are properly quoted and attributed. I removed the tag but wanted to give you the heads up about this. --Jmbranum (talk) 17:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Youre reacting too soon as I am still editting that page. Its just an opening post to be edited. More details will be added.Cathar11 (talk) 19:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

We posted a new article Saleen_Club_of_America with information about or organization and how it relates to the Saleen world and it was deleted for using text from our website?

It is our website and we can use the materials.

Can you help us out here?

Saleenclub (talk) 21:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

The copied text from http://sourceforge.net/projects/teddyontology is my own. However, I modified the text in the article in order to avoid copyright issues. --ChristianKnuepfer (talk) 09:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

This was a plausible bot error. No legitimate issues here. For further explanation, see Talk:Hayashi Hōkō#No copyright problems. --Tenmei (talk) 17:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi i was told something about my page: Deltora Quest 1, that it was "too" similar to Deltora Quest Series, but it isn't. It is just a page for itself, to only explain the first serie, its like a trilogy series, with 3 series, Or kinda that... Its okay to have it there. In my opinoin on Wikipedia everything related to that kind of thing should have its own page or article to tell about it more and better than the series' page... Seya my friends! Goodnight! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luka1184 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm a registered DJ with Techno.fm, so any of my materials on techno.fm are mine, if you would like, I could ask one of the owners of the site to forward you a note regarding my linking of their site with my wiki page that I've created, please be patient with me, as I am new to this and do not want to submit erroneous information for your followers!

Thank you in advance for you time and consideration of my request,

M —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milton3030 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome.

For the Arbitration Committee,
Risker (talk) 08:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Im trying to write a brief synopsis about Exotifit and possibly its founder. Exotifit is a type of aerobic exercise that blends belly dance, indian dance, pole dancing and other dances from around the world. I do not mean to break any rules, but I have been flagged and I thought I was doin okay. There is so much info, I guess I am lost...  :( Exotifit [1] http://exotifit.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariaexotifit (talk • contribs) 08:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Mariaexotifit (talk) 08:41, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Peter Darker

I am the author/owner of website which the bot is calling in question. Ballymacoll Stud - http://www.ballymacollstud.com/history.cfm. Ballymacoll (talk) 13:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Original title had no periods. GeorgeLouis (talk) 14:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Elsie's [2] on Constantine of Berat. Guildenrich (talk) 15:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

The info was taken from List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 1958 (U.S.) Thank You — 金神猴泰金 21:00, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello. The site ilgardellino, that because of which you deleted my "shalev ad-el" article has received MY permition to use the text, not vise-sersa. I am Mr. Ad-El's personal manager and have the full rights to provide the information about him to the groups he works with and/or his homepages.

please place it back. thank you.

T.G —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasgross27 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi I got a notice form your CorenSearchBot about a possible copyright issue. The reason is I moved on a song from "Langebro" to a nre article called "Langebro (song)". The song is named for the Langebro bridge in Copenhagen and to make room for an article on the bridge, I moved the article on the song. I have now realized there's a special function for that, which I wasn't aware of. Sorry about that.Ramblersen (talk) 02:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing on this page copied word for word from lostcolonyentertainment.com. That's easily verifiable. And even if it was, I own the site, lostcolonyentertainment.com. Feel free to follow the email address at the bottom of the page. It will forward any message to my personal email, sodfedora@aol.com, and I'll respond back to verify.

I remain active to answers queries related to CSBot, which I intent to keep operational as long as it is still useful and welcome.

CorenSearchBot has flagged my article about Thomas P. Rosandich twice now. The website that this content is found is using it with permission from my organization. My organization is the copyright holder.

Thanks, CorenSearchBot, for informing me about the copy right violation, Here after I will not copy and paste any content from the other websites or portals. give me some guidance for me to create articles. once again thanks for the Warning . Jeganila..........

i am hundred percent sure that this is my own work,ive never been on any site which talks about jhoeni darren,my only purpose here is to make an article for jhoeni darren,cause there are so many people who did not see any information about him though he's a great artist.

2009-11-13

The text asssociated with "Antique Persian Carpets and Rugs" is all original. Nothing was taken from Nola Rugs website. References appear where appropriate. Please remove warning. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazmiyal (talk • contribs) 15:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

The content on Jatland site is having GFDL license hence no copy right violation. See http://www.jatland.com/home/Jatland_Wiki:Copyrights

I am expanding the article and removing copyvio tag. Thanks. burdak (talk) 15:06, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello

dartford Living at Linkedin is also my page (but under the editor;s name, vijay jain), and we wished to place an entry at the wiki site for people's reference... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelhk (talk • contribs) 16:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello, this information is now properly attributed to the website from where it came. The author of both pieces is the same person. Frenchquarterhx (talk) 04:52, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

By some form of psychological embazzlement I didn't realise that you drafted the Eastern European proposed decision, for a comment on it, check out Brad's talkpage: User talk:Newyorkbrad#Eastern europe not well defined. Maybe it can be of some use. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:27, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I rather think you will find I was quoting [3].  Giano  18:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Then perhaps it is I who wasn't clear enough. I was referring to the initial misunderstanding perceived as outing, not of the subsequent suppression. (Although, given that that took less than half an hour as far as I can tell, "minutes" would also be appropriate). — Coren ^(talk) 01:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from bullying, threatening, and intimidating behavior like that you engaged in at Giano's talk page. This kind of incivility is unacceptable especially from an Arb who is involved in the issue. You should try showing more respect for your fellow editors, even if they aren't members of the officialdom here. I hope this will be the last warning that is necessary and that you will refrain from engaging in that kind of hostility in the future. We don't need that kind of drama mongering and friction. I understand you may be experiencing some stress as your actions as an Arb are under scrutiny with your candidacy, but you are still expected to abide by our core values and the consensus policies and guidelines for behavior. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

There exists no appropriate response to that message. — Coren ^(talk) 01:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Here is the comment to which ChildofMidnight is referring Coren's comment. Rather than dignify ChildofMidnight's above message with any sort of response, editors are invited to reach their own conclusion, much as I did. Manning (talk) 01:55, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I too must disagree with COM's views. To the contrary, many of us feel that the comment in question showed a polite and reasoned attempt to address a difficult situation - just the qualities we need in members of the Committee. —Finn Casey * 03:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

• If Coren is about to ban me it can be my final message. In five years I have never outed anybody. I have never threatened to out anybody. In five years I have been consistently know to turn on anybody who out another. That inlcudes those who famously tried to out one previous mmember of the Arbcom and one serving member. That fact is well known to all members of the Arbcom. Now you people dare to threaten me with bans for being angry for my edits being sighted and labeled "outing". God you lot are unreal. 10:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
  • And, like everyone has been telling you, nobody thinks you did. There was a brief period during which a misunderstanding made some people thinks so. That misunderstanding has long since been clarified. — Coren ^(talk) 12:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I should say your responses here [4] left me deeply disappointed.--Dojarca (talk) 04:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's a consequence of asking me questions relating to a currently open case, Dojarca. My responsibilities as a sitting arb override election curiosity, I'm afraid, and it really isn't appropriate for me to discuss a case that's before the committee (or that could end up before the committee soon) in anything but vague terms at best. If you want to examine my reasoning you really should stick to hypotheticals or long-resolved cases. — Coren ^(talk) 12:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Leandro.navarro (talk) 12:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC) I used my own words to describe the above article (a license), but as a summary I used the text provided by the license as summary as I do not want do distort their ideas. The original content is released under the Creative Commons (by-nc-sa) license. I think the bot and the action to delete an entry should check first if the content referenced is released under a compatible license such as in this case and not delete the article immediately. This is discouraging to someone like me that contribute articles or text from time to time.

Hi. I'm afraid that cc-by-nc-sa is not a compatible license. Wikipedia requires compatibility with cc-by-sa, which permits commercial reuse. The copyright faq includes a chart of some compatible licenses. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I see, then I will rewrite it. Thanks ! Leandro.navarro (talk) 13:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I just remembered about my one-month ban from ArbCom-related pages. Should I remove my question for the candidates, or is it too late? (Also, had I asked this anywhere but an arbitrator's user talk page, would it have violated the ban?) --NE2 21:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and opine that involving yourself non disruptively in the election process should not be covered by the ban; its object was never to stifle criticism. But please behave. — Coren ^(talk) 23:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I thought you answered my question very well. I was just looking for some introspection and constructive criticism and you gave me just that. Kudos.--chaser (talk) 08:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello You have placed a tag on the Holmewood House School page. We have substantially edited the text now, and cannot see that there is any conflict of interest or blatant advertising. We have checked the entry against those of other similar schools whose entries appear to be acceptable and hope that you may now be able to remove the tag. Thank you Holmewood (talk) 17:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Your robot is quick to react, i reacted quickly too. Flagman (talk) 12:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Followup on User:SandyGeorgia/ArbVotes2009, per this and this, I'm unclear why you are recused in this case? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:16, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah, simply because I have had somewhat of a spat with Mattisse in the past (prompted by an incident where my bot ended up annoying her greatly), which I had not originally remembered when the request first came in. I was pretty sure I had recused explicitly once I remembered, though it may not have been on the RfAR proper (it might have been a bit after the case opened). — Coren ^(talk) 15:14, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Add: I see Tip's the one to move me to recused here. Ah, there we go: I recused officially here. — Coren ^(talk) 15:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks (I was confused :) I knew many had recused, but didn't remember you had, and finally got 'round to checking. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Some of the text present in the article comes from NoCrew official site. The copyright of the website has been donated by Nocrew LLC to Wikipedia through CC-BY-SA after contacting your office. Please not that non of the text in this article present any form of copyright violation.

Larrygagosian (talk) 00:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)NoCrew Nov 20th 2009

Re this bot edit. See my comment for my edit here. --Bensin (talk) 02:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I redirected Visapur fort to Visapur Fort. It seems when it was under the article Visapur fort someone copied it and used on their website (http://escapadesindia.com/visapur.html). Now when I redirected this article i'm gettin a search bot message. I just wish to ask if I can remove the tag. And also the text from the original article has been copied which can be proved by the citation markings on that web page. thank uNirvanareborn 11:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for considering 3.2. Would you have an opinion on the issues discussed by the community here? Perhaps they could generate more of a consensus among the arbitrators, as well. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is a good time to be saying this, but it's great to see you're running for re-election. I completely, 100% revoke my (mistaken) remark last year at your ArbCom voting page - you've been doing a fantastic job and I hope you're elected back for at least another year. Master&Expert (Talk) 23:36, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I think the reference material are clearly described in the article... Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maseracing (talk • contribs) 06:51, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

There is no copyright violation. The website you mention copied the info and the map from Wikipedia, from an article created mostly by myself. Xufanc (talk) 08:03, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

You recently voted on a topic ban. I feel it important to state the following:

Facts

• the clarification request clearly demonstrated that abuse had occurred.[5]
• administrators were to watch for further instances.
• harassment/ false accusations continued.
• harassment/ false accusations were part of two amendment topic ban requests against me, which the very same administrators were overseeing.[6][7]
• harassment/ false accusations were part of the administrative topic ban proposals.[8] The same administrators were overseeing this sanction process also.
• In a half year there are hundreds of examples of false accusations/harassment through at least half a dozen sanction processes. I have made numerous administrators aware of this and no direct warning has ever been given.

• even though numerous allegations were made against me during two arbitration amendment requests, no action was deemed necessary.
• an administrator agreed to hear my amendment request as part of the two amendment requests.
• this administrator was asked repeatedly to confirm that I would be allowed to file the request. No response was given and the amendment proposals were closed without my proposals being heard. It had been stated clearly that my proposals were to deal with harassment/ false accusations.
• administrators who were part of the amendment request then filed a topic ban proposal. They offered no specific evidence and answered no question, even though they were repeatedly asked to do so.
• they never formally communicated with the accused during the procedure.
• The only evidence offered was by an uninvolved administrator who offered one diff which was shown to be totally bogus.
• Reasoning was given for the topic ban but again the logic behind the conclusions never had to stand up to any scrutiny.
• a year long topic ban was given to myself. The other party received no sanction, no warning, no advisement.

Questions

1)By pointing out harassing behaviour it has been assumed that there is, "a failure of either to work together or disengage”, and that "breathing room" was needed. Why must one have breathing room when one is being harassed? Why has no administrator ever intervened in any way against many false, blatant, and spiteful comments against me?

2)How can one disengage from harassment, especially when part of the harassment is the filing of sanction processes that include a number of bogus accusations?

3)If administrators discounted numerous allegations of wrongdoing during the two amendment requests, why did administrators make further accusations and propose a new topic ban?

Principles of care and justice

1)In a community, those in charge have a duty of care. No one should have to endure months of ongoing abuse.

2)A basic principle of any form of justice is that those making claims can be challenged, and that they must respond.

3)A basic principle of any form of justice is the separation of duties. One party can not start a process, make accusations, not communicate with the accused, and then vote for sanctions.

The sanction process is a "blunt instrument" but it shouldn't be an indifferent instrument and punitive instrument. I view the year long topic ban as unjust. How would I appeal it?--scuro (talk) 19:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

to comment here in five days when my one-month topic ban expires? Thank you. --NE2 20:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

For the benefit of the rest of us and for posterity, please provide a translation for 私は予約なしで、この候補を支持午前 in Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Nihonjoe 4. Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 01:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I intend it to mean "I support this candidate without reservation". I'm rather the beginner in Japanese, and I had two use two unfamiliar kanji to write this phrase so I give roughly even odds that I might have said that I "lifted this convict without control".  :-) — Coren ^(talk) 02:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It should be 私は無条件でこの候補者を支持します. See these. 予約 and 無条件で. And 午前 means morning up until noon or a.m. and 朝 simply means morning. Hope you don't mind that I butt in. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Heh, thanks for the help. I never considered using Wikipedia as help to practice my Japanese before!  :-) — Coren ^(talk) 16:25, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome. You can get better translation at the ref.desk language than machine. Or just ask me. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 17:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I got a searchbot warning for this entry (for a music album) flagging it up as potentially infringing copyright. I presume that the similarity with the page stated http://www.thewavepictures.com/webpages/albumpages/instant_coffee_baby_album.htm - is because of the track listing? I assume that information of this nature isn't copyrighted and I can safely remove the tag?

Apologies if this is a stupid question, but this is one of my first contributions!

Banjo Marv (talk) 16:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

A track listing is generally okay, yes. CSBot isn't quite smart enough to know when copying is okay, it just flags up things that "Hey, this looks like X!".  :-) — Coren ^(talk) 16:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren, I just created a new page for Rood (measurement) and your bot spotted that its wording was the same as that on another site. The site in question is simply referring back to the original Wikipedia article Rood, from which I had removed the material to create the new page. As so many Wikipedia ripoff sites exist, isn't this likely to happen time and time again? SiGarb | (Talk) 19:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It does tend to happen now and again when page splits are being performed, but there is little that can be done to avoid it without significantly impairing the bot's ability to ferret out the real thing. Thankfully, page splits are generally rare and the people performing them tend to understand what's going on well enough that it's not a problem. — Coren ^(talk) 19:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren, I thought to post a question about the EEML case for you at the ArbCom election, but then I thought that perhaps you were not free to comment on that case until it is closed. If so, I am posting the question here in a hope that it would be answered in due time. Basically I wonder about an alternative Universe where the private archive of the EEML was dismissed by the ArbCom as evidence due to privacy or other concerns. What the best course of action might be for the ArbCom in that Universe then? (Igny (talk) 03:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC))

That's an interesting hypothetical, and I expect it should be okay to copy and paste to the Q&A page if you feel like it since it discusses a situation that has not (and no longer could) happen.

I see two possible scenarios: if ArbCom had an exclusionary-rule equivalent, and we were strictly compelled to discount the archive, then we would have rejected the case entirely. This is obviously problematic since the list had already leaked publicly and was not under ArbCom control; chances are that all hell would break loose as accusations and counter accusations flied this way and that, and I would guess that attacks offsite would take a prominent role. This scenario is obviously disastrous, and would throw a pall over Wikipedia as a project should the media's attention happen on the mess. (This is, in part, why I feel that an exclusionary rule would be a Bad Thing).

The second scenario is if ArbCom had chosen to not use the archive as evidence, because of privacy concerns. Matters would then have probably been a little better under control since we could still proceed examining a case taking into account that the list existed, and would have ended with a decision that — if little else — could give a bit of guidance and added scrutiny to the situation. I expect that the drama explosion would still take place, but it could be kept a little bit better under control given that ArbCom wouldn't be compelled to the legal fiction that the archive did not exist.

The fact that both scenarios end up very much undesirable is due to the inescapable fact that you can't stuff the toothpaste back in the tube: nobody could seriously "unlearn" what they had seen in the leaked list, and it's unreasonable to think that nobody would have dissected it public even if ArbCom did not. I guess this explains why I agreed with the committee decision to proceed with a case and accept the archive as evidence. — Coren ^(talk) 03:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

This tagging ([9]) seems dubious - text has been rewritten as far as I can tell. Exxolon (talk) 20:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The article is a close paraphrase of the source and much of it needs to be rewritten. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing for more information. Theleftorium 21:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Salut Coren,

une discussion sur le bultin des admins de fr: [10] a attiré l'attention sur CorenSearchBot, qui a soulevé un certain enthousiasme. Est-ce que tu verrais une objection à ce que l'on pompe son code pour mettre quelque chose de semblable sur fr: ?

Merci d'avance, et merci pour le beau boulot accompli ! Rama (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Non, bien sur, mais vous préfereriez probablement la version un peu plus récente que j'utilise présentement. (Si vous me donnez un jour ou deux pour la rendre présentable). Je vais aller commenter directement au buletin. — Coren ^(talk) 23:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren,

Just in case you're interested in more data pertaining to This issue we discussed earlier this month, on November 17th, I noticed it again on Teen PEP.

As you mentioned tracking & debugging might be challenging though, I think that as long as DumbBOT catches it we're still fine. Thought you'd want a heads-up nonetheless.

BTW, best with the elections. Even if it were only for that one thing, we definitely need one arb keenly aware of the copyright challenges we're facing, not to mention all the rest you bring to the table :) MLauba (talk) 15:03, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, follow-up, in the above case the hick-up was complete, the user (redlinked talk page at the time of CSB's identification) was not notified either :) MLauba (talk) 15:06, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

How odd. My hypothesis of the bug having to do with the day rollover was obviously incorrect. I'll dig into the logs to see what I can unearth. — Coren ^(talk) 15:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

For standing up to wiki's two biggest problems: ethnic warriors and problematic vested contributors.Dog The Teddy Bear (talk) 21:55, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 07:04, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren,

Belated happy thanksgiving. The SCV subpages for the two days above are empty, could this be a resurgence of the "can't create new pages" bug? MLauba (talk) 00:36, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

No, it's a "Stupid bot done gone crash and I didn't notice" bug.  :-) Restarted with a swift kick to the diodes. — Coren ^(talk) 00:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know that I replied to your comment on my voting guide's talk page. (Forgot to watch that page, so I only discovered your reply today.) Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:49, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Do you by any chance happen to have access to the Canadian historical dictionary? Fainites ^barleyscribs 14:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Not physically at home, but I suppose I can grab it from a library on my way back to work tomorrow. What do you need? — Coren ^(talk) 15:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

It's in relation to this article - Truce term. What I would like someone to do is look up truce term. If there's nothing under "truce term", try kings ex or exe or X, kings cruse and kings truce, fainites, barley, crosses, pax and time out to see if there is any information on truce terms in Canada. There are dozens in the UK and some of them went to the US and combined to become kings ex and variations. Barley, pax and fainites appear in other ex-colonies. I would be very surprised if there were not also truce terms in the english speaking parts of Canada. Also the french version pouce. It may be though that the same has happened in Canada as happened in the US in the last few decades which is that time out has progressively replaced all the older terms. I would be eternally grateful if you could scan and send me copies of any entries.

It appears these terms are endemic in English speaking countries. As far as I can ascertain there are terms used in European countries but I have yet to find a non-European country that uses truce terms, apart from Japan which has taken up time out. Fainites ^barleyscribs 16:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

That's a search better done at the library itself since more than one reference might need to be dug into (and reference books can rarely be checked out). I'll try to find a way to squeeze this in during the next week. — Coren ^(talk) 16:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

That would be very kind of you and is much appreciated.Fainites ^barleyscribs 17:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Anecdotally, I can confirm that "time out" is the only one that is in widespread use amongst children speaking both English and French in Eastern Canada — at least as of roughly 40 years ago. I cannot remember any other phrase being used in this context. — Coren ^(talk) 16:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I thought that might be the case. Pity really but inevitable I suppose though I would have expected pouce to survive in French speaking areas. Time out does get used here too, but not as much as it doesn't appear in our televised sports - only on US imports like Gladiators and so on. My kids still use a word direct from the Opie map at primary school but then it's a rural area. I suspect that in London the picture is somewhat different due to it's amazingly multicultural nature. A friend of mine who teaches in London secondary schools says over 60 different first languages in a school is quite usual. Unfortunately the most recent research I've found is from the late 1980s. Fainites ^barleyscribs 17:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

You asked for feedback. Over the last few days the overlength original article (Radio Caroline) became the subject of repeated attacks for commercial purposes by either deleting material or by redirecting traffic to an external commercial site or by implanting external redirect links within the text. All of these attacks have been made on behalf of Radio Caroline Ltd and repeated requests have been made for assistance to Wikipedia Admins to help stop this time wasting vandalism. Because the original article was posted as being in need of clean-up and because it was overly lengthy, the original page has been turned into a disambiguation page and the other pages linked to it - including Radio Caroline Ltd. Your assistance and help in policing these attacks - which I expect to continue, would be greatly appreciated. I am a financial supporter of Wikipedia and I believe in its concept of being an open NPOV encyclopedia and not a POV advertising mouthpiece. Fk27jh (talk)

Please note, by his own contribution log - NO requests for assistance have been made apart from the SHRIEK in capitals in his edit summary. He has been inserting information originating from a dubious source which cannot be verified online, and is at total odds to the history as has been documented over 45 years. Reference to any edited & related article dated before June 11th will confirm this. He is presumed responsible for some similar edits undertaken using an IP address on the same article. I have reverted back to single article Radio Caroline --Keith 07:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Assistance is requested to investigate the above user who is stalking, blanking and inserting advertising for a commercial web site attempting to claim ownership control of all material on this subjecton Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia to which I have been a financial contributor for some time. The user is not only destroying academic postings that are throughly documented but wasting the time of genuine contributores.

This user has not contributed anything to the understanding of this subject but seems to want to prevent any genuine knowledge been posted by others. He has reverted so many articles that it is pointless dealing with this subject until his vandalism is stopped. Before he began his current campaign another user from the same source attempted to do the same thing.

It is this kind of behavior that drives away genuine contributors. I have no financial or commercial interest in this subject but this vandal does appear to have an interest, hence his constant linking to a commercial site. Your assistance is requested please. Fk27jh (talk)

I am sure that he will NOT be able to substantiate most of these "Unspecified/generic" claims. --Keith 13:15, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Please avail yourselves of dispute resolution; as a member of the Arbitration Committee, I cannot involve myself directly in your dispute. — Coren ^(talk) 16:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)