User talk:Casliber/Archive 64

In the short term, I'm content to try to work on the rest of the article (since the whole thing is a dumpster fire). It's possible with the rest of the article in place, the post '44 stuff won't seem to egregiously unbalanced (post '44 searches are the subjects of at least two books & a lot of popular media and stuff, so it's certainly worth a non-trivial amount of space.)

But regardless, at some point (certainly before a GA attempt), some sort of resolution that allows for the material in question to be re-written to be well suited to Wikipedia will need to take place. I'm at a bit of a loss on how/if that's possible (seriously, as far as I can determine, all the complaints I don't know the subject, make illogical changes, have a hidden agenda, etc. seem to stem from me writing "flap speed" rather than "flap rate", which, okay, was a bit sloppy, but is easily fixed and I've already stated multiple times I'm happy to do that), but at this point, it seems impossible to even try to discuss any content, or any way to find a resolution that can work for everyone. Since you're the only person who seems to be paying attention that hasn't earned any ire, I figured I'd reach out to you to see if you had a less involved view of how to move forward. WilyD 16:28, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For the next five days my free time is minimal and highly unpredictable (am busier than I expected!), which is annoying as I need to digest info and figure how to proceed. I can see both sides and will see how best to move forward soon. Until then recommend doing as you suggest and we can look at that next week. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:57, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I don't think there's a hurry. Most of the egregious parts are now redone - a lot of it's now a disorganised information dump, but progress on that is going to be slower. There's a thorny issue where most sources just regurgitate Tanner's book, which is by far the best study - but it's unclear how much that study of six birds is really representative of the whole species - Cinclodes alludes to it, and it's true, and it's hard to figure out how to work around in a Wikipedia context. So I think progress on pretty much everything is going to be slow going anyhow. WilyD 08:39, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Adam Cuerden (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 91 featured pictures, including 32 in the final round. Our finalists this year were:

1. Adam Cuerden (submissions) with 964 points
2. Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 899 points
3. Casliber (submissions) with 817 points
4. Kosack (submissions) with 691 points
5. SounderBruce (submissions) with 388 points
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• Casliber (submissions) wins the featured article prize, for a total of 7 FAs during the course of the competition.
• Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 14 GAs in round 5.
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Congratulations on both these awards! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see you standing for ArbCom. Congratulations Cassianto^Talk 13:56, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

heh, thx...I figured it may be an "all hands on deck" time coming up....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you intend to do an African bird for FAC? If so, I'd help out. LittleJerry (talk) 00:44, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hadn't thought about one as such, but agree would be good to do one. Will have a think about it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking something like the bateleur, African fish eagle or Secretarybird. LittleJerry (talk) 19:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

They are some interesting choices - will take a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:14, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay @LittleJerry:, let's do secretarybird as it is pretty unique. Maybe @Aa77zz: will help as well. My free time will be patchy in coming weeks so between the three of us chipping in we might make a go of it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Any books you recommend? LittleJerry (talk) 00:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea at this point. I know where to look for australian birds, not so sure about African ones Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:51, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look at the article in The Birds of Africa - this is the equivalent of HANZAB or BWP for African birds. I was a bit disappointed - only three and a half pages and hardly any references - but still useful. - Aa77zz (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In some ways that makes it easier - HANZAB starts off with pretty slim entries for many raptors and seabirds and gets more detailed as it finishes off with the passerines. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like to start once green mamba passes? I will probably nominate wolf in January. I'm a little nervous about that one, since its the first article since 2013 that I'm nominating without a partner. LittleJerry (talk) 21:58, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have been really busy. I'd still like to do secretarybird, just been snowed under. I will digest the stuff I have and go from there. I think I have some free time later. It will be 40+C, humid where I am so I don't want to go out much. Sydney also filled with bushfire smoke, which makes outide unpleasant ATM Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:00, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't get to you. Hopefully wolf will be done soon. I'll be able to help on secretarybird after that. LittleJerry (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay no dramas Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:32, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be able to source spotcheck wolf? LittleJerry (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have been really busy, and today it will be difficult to do spotchecks where I am. Sorry. If no-one has done it in next 24 hours I can get to it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:19, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you still do it? LittleJerry (talk) 21:40, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations! Your hook made our all-time list of non-lead hooks with more than 15,000 views! Yoninah (talk) 21:12, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate you pointing to the Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 156 - it explained a lot. I was tempted to ce, but for me it just really wasn't worth it. (sorry) — Ched (talk) 12:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I figured is best if folks can read the exchanges and make up their own minds Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:59, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I had already made up my mind (being familiar with both of you over the years), but I'll admit I was curious about the interaction. Pretty much as I expected. — Ched (talk) 13:13, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, saw the fun and games today at AN/I, which is why I stick to content most of the time...dang, is nearly 1am here and I have to be up before 7.....to sleep I go Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:54, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please see User talk:TelosCricket#Proposed RfC where two of your featured articles are being critiqued for 'incorrect etymologies'. (Telopea oreades and Banksia sphaerocarpa). Unsure if your interest extends to this type of detail. I became aware because of a WP:AN3 report where people were disputing whether the etymologies in our plant articles were correct, and if they ought to be checked against Latin and Greek dictionaries. Or on the other hand, if such checking would count as original research. More background is at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life/Archive 46#Problematic editing on etymologies. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 06:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I appreciate your input, but [[1]] is only a draft. Do you mind if I move your comments to the talk page? TelosCricket (talk) 22:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all/go for it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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But these were articles that had been created by banned editors. They can be reviewed easily enough Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:53, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you today for Banksia marginata, saying "I wasn't going to nominate a banksia for a while but got interested in this one as it is a taxonomic conundrum, so I buffed it for my own education" - a great motivation! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

indeed :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:55, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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	The Half Million Award
	For your contributions to bring Black mamba (estimated annual readership: 696,000) to Featured Article status, I hereby present you the Half Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Reidgreg (talk) 17:22, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

	The Quarter Million Award
	For your contributions to bring Eastern brown snake (estimated annual readership: 290,000) to Featured Article status, I hereby present you the Quarter Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Reidgreg (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Reidgreg:...is anyone updating Wikipedia:Today's featured article/Most viewed? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:59, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like one of the TFA coordinators is making lists like Wikipedia:Today's featured article/TFAs in 2018, and waiting for year end before doing the 2019 version. I imagine anything that'd been missed will be added then. It looks like eight articles were added for 2019 (so far), which is about consistent with the previous years (between eight and eleven). – Reidgreg (talk) 21:21, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nikkimaria (talk) 17:15, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, I can't see it Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:43, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re-sent, better? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:01, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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to see your name, in the list :-) Congratulations! ∯WBG^converse 12:10, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heh thanks. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Let me echo those congratulations. Selfishly, I hope things aren't so busy that you'll have to significantly reduce your DYK prep-to-queue promotions... BlueMoonset (talk) 17:45, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That shouldn't be a problem Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:01, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed: Congrats!TelosCricket (talk) 02:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I came by to say congratulations, but then saw Katie using the exclusively inclusive but excruciating “Royal we” and thought better of it. Do they not teach grammar in foreign parts? Whatever, I’m glad one of candidates I voted for won through. There is hope. Giano (talk) 21:27, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah English. I got reverted the other day for correcting an executive's use of "utilised" with "used". And the number of times I correct my colleagues saying, "To Dr X and I..." ....sigh Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I sympathise. Me real hate is people referring to themselves as “myself” when they mean me or I, or worse still “I, myself” as if one had another self. Then there’s “basically.” I think I’ll stop there. Congratulations anyway, I’m sure it will be an enlightening experience. Giano (talk) 21:47, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for the article, "Another day another plant....I am celebrating getting one of these for my garden by writing about it. I've done what I can."! - I love that motif for writing. DYK that I try to write about compositions, to appear on composers' birthdays? Yesterday, Mozart. 17k+ clicks for him, more than ten times the clicks for his litanies, but that's the idea. Not sure yet what to do for Beethoven, but also we don't know his birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Mystical Nativity (Filippo Lippi) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, nice! Cas Liber (talk · contribs)

Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true. No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well C. MarnetteD|Talk 04:20, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

noice! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent - you have the lingo down pat :-) MarnetteD|Talk 14:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Heh ok! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:03, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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		Io, Saturnalia!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:21, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t it? –xeno^talk 11:28, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I had vague memories of a gradual segue over December. But in any case, happy to wait Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:38, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I’m just trying to do all the readings so I can hit the ground running. –xeno^talk 11:43, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds prudent :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:52, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

	Merry Christmas Casliber
	Hi Casliber, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia this past year,    –Davey2010talk 00:34, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

	Merry Christmas Casliber
	Hi Casliber, wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this year    – Kosack (talk) 10:34, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heh thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:44, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, Casliber! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.Onel5969 TT me 23:35, 22 December 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Noice! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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		Faithful friends who are dear to us
		... gather near to us once more. May your heart be light and your troubles out of sight, now and in the New Year. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:36, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:07, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

	Happy Holidays! May your winter holidays be filled with joy, laughter and good health. Wishing you all the best in 2020 and beyond.

--Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 21:30, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, would be great if 2020 was better than 2019....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:36, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings".  :) BOZ (talk) 21:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...or festivus! Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:35, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind words to my wife off-Wikipedia. It is appreciated. Happy Holidays too. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:48, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. I hope she found the FB group too Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:24, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article Horologium (constellation) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Horologium (constellation) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 02:02, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

	Season's greetings!
	I hope this holiday season is festive and fulfilling and filled with love and kindness, and that 2020 will be safe, successful and rewarding...keep hope alive....Modernist (talk) 02:13, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes...we will try. :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:57, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When you said that you reviewed my article on WP:Discord, I was totally confused. I just figured out what you meant (diff). Thank you! :D –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:28, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Now that's weird. I was thinking it was Alabama v. North Carolina...but my memory failed me and that was actually DannyS712 (talk · contribs) but you did edit that page sometime later and it must have flashed past my watchscreen. Anyway, I'd actually forgotten about Cod Island...hahaha Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:07, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Heh thx Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy 2020!

missing Brian ...

Thank you today for the beautiful Red-tailed tropicbird! - I trust you will be a good arbitrator! - Look at the Happy link when it comes, please, working on the decoration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... and more thanks today for Turbinellus floccosus! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

heh thanks Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... and more today for Suillus luteus, "about yet another pored mushroom...though this one has piggybacked pine plantations around the world and doesn't taste as nice as others. We liked buffing it and have scraped the bottom of the scholarly barrel. Interesting mushroom."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

... and today for what you did for Golden Swallow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The pilot in command of an aircraft is the person aboard who is ultimately responsible for its operation and safety during flight. This would be the captain in a typical two- or three-pilot aircrew, or "pilot" if there is only one certificated and qualified pilot at the controls of an aircraft. Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Captain Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: List of pasta • Cooking with alcohol Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 6 January 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your engagement in WikiProject Medicine. The present tension is unfortunate and I wish that we could negotiate some norms for friendly and stress-free discussion. My wish is that a bit of occasional tension brings some progress then a cool-down period. With you being an experienced Wikipedia editor you negotiated a forum for discussion, and I appreciate your doing that. I care less about the outcomes of these things and more about friendly process which people enjoy. Thanks for participating and I hope you visit without hesitation when you feel the desire to do so. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cas, we have an important RFC ready for launch, after a month in development, with the MEDLEAD RFC also running now, and a talk page at MEDMOS that was 800KB yesterday. We really don't need another RFC right now, especially one that was not discussed in advance. Perhaps WhatamIdoing, who is an expert on RFCs (as everything else she is an expert on) will give you suggestions on the best way to proceed now. We've got to stop this !voting without discussing trend that plagues WPMED, where a conflict happens, a post to WT:MED is made, and everyone comes rushing in with factionalized !voting. We need to change the culture. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, given it's malformed then shall we just close it? You do realise Doc James has already given his opinion don't you, so leaving it open for that is pointless. The reason I wanted some yes/no points was to avoid a wall of text that discourages input and close analysis at closure. If you and @WhatamIdoing: think the structure dooms it then we can just close it for the time being. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:25, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for comment#Ending RfCs lists official options, one of which is that Cas can withdraw it at (more or less) any time.

I think I've solved the structural problems. If other people will actually answer the question you asked, it could be over rather painlessly in a week or two. Weeks or months from now, I'd be happy to see us all talk through the question of how prescriptive the order is meant to be. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:35, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cas, now that WAID has gotten it under control, it might serve another useful purpose (even if WPMED has to wait a few months to get the real discussion about "how prescriptive the order is meant to be"). Your RFC could turn out to be a good teachable moment, with WAID involved and demonstrating an alternate path to the typical "I agree with editor-so-and-so" as a means of building consensus. I hope that consensus on article talk will allow you to install a logical narrative, but in my experience, consensus-building is something that WPMED needs to re-learn. Since I am likely to decide, again, that this is not the place I want to be, you know where to find me. It will be a more pleasant place than here ;) All the best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes...it is....enthusiasm-dampening that's for sure. Though to be fair, moving two sections wholesale back and forth is not a big deal as the rest of the article can be worked on in the meantime. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not a big deal when you only deal with it once ... not worth it when it is your entire editing day, and pretty soon there's no place left to contribute. Well, I have tried to re-invigorate FAC and FAR, so I hope my time back in here left something useful. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:16, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're stuck on ArbCom again. I thought that ArbCom members weren't allowed to have any enthusiasm anyway. ;-) WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I realise how the compulsion to keep an awareness of something on wiki works when I find that no one who helps to get the FA stage through has the slightest interest on the talk page side :) -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Grey_currawong - nah biota? what's that? where did that come from  :) - trust the new year is going better for you... JarrahTree 00:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I didn't know this set would be promoted so quickly. I just asked an editor on WT:DYK if I could make the last hook a double hook, and he agreed. Here is the new hook wording and the new credit lines:

• ... that Lake Kristi in North Carolina was built specifically to allow water skiing champion Kristi Overton Johnson to train?

Credit lines:

•   Lake Kristi – ~riley (give) (tag) – View nom subpage
•   Kristi Overton Johnson – ~riley (give) (tag) – View nom subpage
•   Kristi Overton Johnson – NoteworthynancyNC (give) (tag) – View nom subpage

Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, taking a look done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Community view before Friday.

Only 100 or so words. It should be fun and serious at the same time.

All the best,

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 00:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

why you are up late... Wikipedia:Six_million_articles looks suspiciously lagging... JarrahTree 15:52, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

all in good fun Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:52, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

definitely  !! best of luck... JarrahTree 15:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

BTW do indonesia/malaysia wikiprojects have biota modifiers? For all these sea snakes...sigh Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

not that I have ever seen... JarrahTree 15:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. The Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, hope this will prove to be good fun and productive, we have over 44,000 stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Congrats Casliber on working against vandalism ( I have seen it in numerous cases). Keep it up! Much love! Jam ai qe ju shikoni (talk) 21:38, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cas Liber, the queues are again empty, and I was hoping you could take care of a couple of promotions. If not, I'll go ping the full crowd, but I've been doing that a fair amount lately, and don't want to overdo. Thanks for however you can help. (If you haven't stopped by in the next five hours or so, I'll probably do the ping thing.) BlueMoonset (talk) 00:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! It's so good to have the next 24 hours set. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:49, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that you went to promote Prep 2 to Queue 2 right after you'd taken care of Prep 1, then reversed yourself because some work was still being done. Well, the queues are empty and we could really use that promotion! And maybe another, if you're feeling ambitious.Many thanks. Of course, Prep 3 is that last filled prep, so we're badly lagging in that department as well. We may need to go back to one a day not because we've made significant progress (15 to 20 nomination days are crazy!), but because we don't have enough people building prep sets. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:21, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, running this in March, can you central notice it once WMUK have approved it? Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:11, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, just alert me when that happens Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:20, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody has signed up for it in a few days, a bit worrying as I alerted the main British and Irish wikiprojects. Perhaps we could have a central notice banner soon for about two weeks leading up to the contest? Starts on March 1, has been approved by WMUK.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, will put up on February 15th Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:24, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Blofeld, I just saw your note here, re the great event above!!!! could you please let me know more? I'm intrigued by your idea. this is precisely of great editor group event I had ion mind, when I proposed a new collaborative workspace for joint project history, to be named "Town Hall," or some other similar name. could you please let me know a little more about the effort that you mention above? for one thing, have there been other efforts like this in the past? If so, could you please give me a link where I could view the past pages for any such group effort?

also, could you please let me know where else the event above will be posted? also, what does the abbreviation "WMUK" refer to? I would like to check out some of the existing resources here. I appreciate your help. Please feel free to let me know. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:22, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I just saw the page for Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon. that looks great. please feel free to let me know more. I guess I will write to you at your own user page now. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:24, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There'll be a central notice for it, hopefully more people will sign up, anybody who wants to improve British and Irish articles in March is welcome. Cheers both.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:11, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, did you put in the request on this?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:12, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was waiting for you to ping me again. I have several things on the boil ATM. I'll do it in a sec. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Blofeld: is in centralised discussion now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:24, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:51, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea when it will be approved? I'd hoped to get a good ten days publicity on this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:13, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you meant at template:cent (which I did), but then this happened. I have no idea where the global edit notices are made. Looked here but got confused. And am short of time. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:38, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I responded on Discord but you haven't been on, so I'm leaving this on your talk page. Take it with as many grains of salt as desired. ~

The comparisons in the lead to BG are off-putting. So is the clarification about the name of the system. Generally, the lead doesn't seem to do a good job summarizing.

The multiple paragraphs about the nomenclature at the beginning seem to me to be of low import to the generalist reader (me :). A table might be preferable, and/or movement to the latter etymology section.

General vocabulary seems appropriate for the class of article but I do see that it would be hard to parse for non-specialists. Links are provided where appropriate. (This is standard jargon problem on Wikipedia.) Conversely, the bit about the H alpha line gets into a sentence or two not pertinent to the article. (The history.)

Which companion star? Though, I'm not sure that sentence is exactly necessary in general, especially since it's like "well, there's another thing but we're not really sure about that other thing" which doesn't really help the reader...

--Izno (talk) 03:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. That gives us plenty to go on for the time being. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:26, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Casliber, would you be available for an interview about good articles? I'm currently writing an essay about good articles and I've been considering this for a while now. Let me know if you can do so. Don't worry if you can't. Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 15:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Happy to help. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. I'll create a new subpage for it and link it here. Would you mind adding it to your watchlist so you can keep an eye on it? Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 18:33, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Casliber. it is really great to read your user page, and to hear about all your great efforts here at Wikipedia! I am writing to ask about your interesting comments at the Village Pump discussion on a new proposed workspace. Firstly, I am glad that you support the idea to add a new tab to Village Pump, for topics relating to "Projects."

However, I just wanted to get some details on your other suggestion, i.e. to merge the proposed page for "Town Hall" with the page for Community Portal. I don't really agree with this idea for one simple reason; even though I initiated the idea for the page "Town Hall," I don't think it has really caught on as of yet. so I don't think that merging it with another page would accomplish anything, since it doesn't currently have much of a following at all anyway. I wanted to write to you, just to ask if perhaps you could give me some more details on your idea, or why you think the page should be merged??

By the way, I have moved the bulk of the page to a draft in my own user space; since we don't have a consensus yet for the direction of this page, it seems better to keep it mostly as a draft for now. Anyway, if you could please reply when you get a chance, and let me know a little more about your thoughts on this, I would greatly appreciate it. By the way, please ping me when you reply. thanks. cheers!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:16, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	Heartfelt thanks
	... for your many years of considerable help to make Tourette syndrome the best it can be. Happy Valentine's Day to you and yours! Sandy (Talk) 19:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heh thanks.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Okay, I gave your suggestion a try. how do you like the result? feel free to give me any comments at all. you can view the draft at the link User:Sm8900/bulletin_draft . thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great! I am really glad you did this. I will comment on specifics over there. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:07, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

terrific! thanks so much. --Sm8900 (talk) 21:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hi. okay, I tried a new approach. formatting the whole page didn't work, as it knocked out some of the other important features. I gave it a new try, using the formatting only for specific sections. you can take a look at it here: User:Sm8900/bulletin_draft. let me know any thoughts. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

actually, your user page shows more knowledge of formatting than anything that I have done. how did you get the two columns on your user page to show up so nicely, with different colors and everything? that might help us a lot with this effort. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:36, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A nice person long ago did that for me - you are welcome to look at the source and take the code. I really don't have extra time to be doing that myself right now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:45, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hi. Okay, I have updated that draft, and also created a new draft, for a possible Community Portal page. could you please let me know what you think of them? thanks!

• User:Sm8900/bulletin draft
• User:Sm8900/portal draft

thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 21:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the orange bits? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hi. well, I think it's more of a beige, but if you meant the area with a different-colored background, then yes, that's what I meant. this is the same color scheme that I showed your before, only I used it simply for one section this time. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I had to delete some of the subpages above. the items that I compiled are still at this link: * User:Sm8900/projects updates. I appreciate your help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for March 15, 2020. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 15, 2020.—Wehwalt (talk) 17:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for another! March flowers on my talk, + music that is history (all cancelled for the near future) and recent deaths, always too many. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February

Alte Liebe I Will Mention the Loving-kindnesses

A "bird" ion the Main page today, so a late Valentine for you: a bird that is normally only heard, acting on stage (well, it was the right balcony, to be precise, for most of the time, until she walked with Siegfried, carrying a little backpack) - the last reminiscence of the impossible made possible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

heh nice Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:32, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you brought back a remedy from years gone by. The "Probation". I was glad to see that. It's not just that I like Kudpung (although I do) - but rather I like to see more than just the "black and white" of desysop or not solutions to complex problems. Another one I remember from back in the day was the "Temporary Desysop" (usually 6, or 12 months if memory serves.) Not really any questions here with my post - just noting that I appreciated seeing some more ... expansive thinking on Arbcom, and I wanted to say Thank you for that. — Ched (talk) 23:06, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I guess we'll see how this plays out. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. As per our discussion above, I would like to add the following items to the list of items at the Wikipedia:Community bulletin board. Is it okay with you if I do so? I just wanted to keep you posted on my efforts. I appreciate if you could please let me know if that's okay. Please ping me when you reply. I really appreciate your help. thanks.

DRAFT:

• Women in Green.On 10 February 2020 the project became a WikiProject in its own right after about four and half years as a task force. The project is dedicated to promoting articles on women to Good Article status. Currently only about 4% of GAs are about women, and very few core articles have reached GA status. New members and interest in this would be appreciated.
• Wikipedia:The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon. The Great Britain/Ireland De-stub-athon is an edit-a-thon contest that aims to vastly decrease the number of stubs we have for the UK and Ireland. This focuses particularly on places and listed buildings, but the contest will include everything. It aims to eliminate as many of our 44,000-odd stubs as possible, and to see content improved for every single county of the UK and Ireland as evenly as possible. It covers all 48 counties of England (as well as the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man), 32 in Scotland, 32 in Ireland and N Ireland, and 22 of Wales, 134 counties in total. Wouldn't it be great to be able to browse a Google map of the UK and Ireland and to read a consistently good quality article for every village and monument you zoom in on? That's the primary goal we have in mind long term here!
• Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/March_Madness_2020. March Madness is a backlog reduction drive, which will run from 00:01 UTC on 1 March through to 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2020. The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project; however, only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. This year the drive is focused on the following areas:
  • tagging article and non-article talk pages that fall within the project's scope, including adding articles to MILHIST task force
  • assessing articles that fall within the project's scope, including Good Article nominations
  • updating the open tasks template on Milhist task force pages (e.g. Template:WPMILHIST Announcements/Japanese military history)
  • adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages (e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/African military history task force)
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/February 2020. This Copy Editing Project Blitz is a one-week-long effort of the Guild of Copy Editors to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy editing; those carrying the {{copyedit}} tag or listed on the GOCE Requests page. It began on 16 February 2020, at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 22 February 2020, at 23:59 (UTC).
  • The theme(s) of this blitz is/are:
    • Articles tagged for copy-edit in August 2019
    • Requests
    • Blitz participants can earn barnstar awards based on the number of articles—and the word counts of the articles—they copy edit. Awards will be given out once the blitz has finished.
  • The blitz is open to all; you don't have to be a member of the Guild of Copy Editors to participate. You must, however, be competent in your use of English grammar, spelling and punctuation. We strongly advise you to read Wikipedia's guide to basic copy editing before you begin working. If you're unsure about spelling, grammar or punctuation, consult the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Skilled use of English is especially important for articles listed on the Requests page.

• Art+Activism: 2020 Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon
• Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism#Art+Activism:_2020_Art+Feminism_Wikipedia_Edit-a-thon
  • Art+Feminism is pleased to announce the theme of its seventh annual Wikipedia Edit-a-thon is Art+Activism. Activism is something that is deeply rooted in the fiber of this organization. Art has long been a vehicle to reflect and urge social, political and cultural change. Just like the word “feminism” can have different meanings to the individual, “activism” can as well. We welcome all interpretations, wide and narrow, of Art+Activism to be part of our 2020 campaign. Visit our Tumblr to learn more about this year's theme.
  • Click here to view the edit-a-thons taking place across the globe for the months of March and April 2020.
• To Organize an Event

1. Consult our Organizers Quick Guide. Currently available in English, Spanish, French, and Portuguese.
2. Contact us by email at info@artandfeminism.org to learn more and to let us know that you are organizing an event.
3. Create a program on the Program & Events Dashboard (instructions below).
4. List your editathon by submitting your event details via this form.
5. Learn how to edit clicking the Resources tab on this Meet up page.

• How We Organize
  • From the beginning Art+Feminism has paid careful attention to how and where we organize our events, prioritizing off-wiki channels of communication. We use the Programs & Events Dashboard instead of meetup pages, and we are collecting the list of events on our website, rather than here. We do this because our UX/UI review found that, because we had so many events and the wiki interface is confusing to new users, this main meet up page was difficult to parse and folks were missing events in their towns.

thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:47, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All seem like a good idea to me Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ok, that's terrific. thanks! here is another idea; would it be good if I set up a whole new section for that page, to be entitled "group activities and efforts"?

If you do agree with that, then I would propose that on the talk page for that page, and would include the full draft text above. after sufficient time has gone by, and if we get consensus, then we could add it to that page. does that sound okay? Feel free to let me know any comments, or any alternate approach or steps that you might prefer. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 21:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I find the complaints lodged against Kudpung to be so weak that they're laughable. I also find your assessment of Kudpung's behavior unreasonable and your decision to remove his mop unmerited. While I have great respect for our admins that remain polite and unflappable in every circumstance, I think that attitude is neither required nor reasonable for all admins. While you may think that you protected this project by punishing Kudpung or preventing personal attacks, your actions today have only played into the hands of a certain clique of editors who took advantage of this opportunity to remove an obstacle to their plans. I can only assume that you've joined the "hasten the day" crowd. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman (talk) 01:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris troutman: I found it a hard call as can be evidenced by my changing my vote. I am sure if the decision had ended the other way we'd have people complaining about that too. In the end, you are entitled to express your opinion. I pretty much said my piece when I changed my vote. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Has got to a new stage of its progress in this confusing and chaotic world... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_Australian_biota_articles = 0. Please help by when creating new biota articles for australia, to make sure the unassessed page stays the way it is adequately tagged, or please ask for help in doing so... More on the next stages of the Australian biota project soon... and thanks for whatever you have done for the project in any way since 2006 - JarrahTree 05:38, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your attention to the talk pages, much appreciated... JarrahTree 00:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 57 contestants qualifying. We have abolished the groups this year, so to qualify for Round 3 you will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two contestants.

Our top scorers in Round 1 were:

• Epicgenius, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with a featured article, five good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 895 points.
• Gog the Mild came next with 464 points, from a featured article, two good articles and a number of reviews, the main theme being naval warfare.
• Raymie was in third place with 419 points, garnered from one good article and an impressive 34 DYKs on radio and TV stations in the United States.
• Harrias came next at 414, with a featured article and three good articles, an English civil war battle specialist.
• CaptainEek was in fifth place with 405 points, mostly garnered from bringing Cactus wren to featured article status.
• The top ten contestants at the end of Round 1 all scored over 200 points; they also included L293D, Kingsif, Enwebb, Lee Vilenski and CAPTAIN MEDUSA. Seven of the top ten contestants in Round 1 are new to the WikiCup.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. In Round 1 there were four featured articles, one featured list and two featured pictures, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. Between them, contestants completed 127 good article reviews, nearly a hundred more than the 43 good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Contestants also claimed for 40 featured article / featured list reviews, and most even remembered to mention their WikiCup participation in their reviews (a requirement).

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A company is a legal entity made up of an association of people, be they natural, legal, or a mixture of both, for carrying on a commercial or industrial enterprise. Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Company Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Nature reserve • Length Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 2 March 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

There was an error in the WikiCup 2020 March newsletter; L293D should not have been included in the list of top ten scorers in Round 1 (they led the list last year), instead, Dunkleosteus77 should have been included, having garnered 334 points from five good articles on animals, living or extinct, and various reviews. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:29, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is to let you know that the Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 10, 2020. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 10, 2020, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

For Featured Articles promoted recently, there will be an existing blurb linked from the FAC talk page, which is likely to be transferred to the TFA page by a coordinator at some point.

We suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and Horologium (constellation) on Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 15, 2020 Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:27, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and Black Honeyeater on Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 28, 2020 Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:28, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and Isopogon anemonifolius at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 30, 2020. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:44, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have now posted a final draft for the type of announcements of Wikproject Group efforts and activities that we discussed above. it is at Wikipedia talk:Community bulletin board#Final version of Wikiproject event notices. Could you please feel free to go there, and to comment? I appreciate it. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the bushfire page has a troll, pushing some obnoxious views, including homophobic attacks. Any chance that you could look at the contributions of this IP? --Pete (talk) 10:20, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, this got messy quickly Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:53, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you review if HiLo48's comment should stay or be removed.

Skyring has removed it twice. [2][3]. Bidgee (talk) 13:25, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will take a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:20, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Best brace yourself for some discussion elsewhere, Cas! I'll send a formal note in about ten minutes. --Pete (talk) 22:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why. Are you seriously going to defend anything I removed? I was holding you to the same standards you invoked of the other editor, whose comments (you might note) I did not restore. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:11, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks may be removed by any editor. But I think you should reconsider. See the next section. --Pete (talk) 23:43, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments invited before I put it up:

A couple of things I found recently. I'm sure everyone here is familiar with them, and found them equally positive and inspiring:

• Jimbo's comments about editors,
• Wikipedia Is the Last Best Place on the Internet

I've been keeping them in my mind, and thinking that it really is something incredibly positive that we are doing here, and yes, there are a few rough patches we can work on.

We rely on admins to mop up the spills and it can be a pretty bloody thankless task, so let me say thank you for your efforts. God knows that I prefer being able to run away and do something else when things get too hot, but you folk have to put on your admin boots and wade in. Thanks.

Speaking of hot, I'm sure everybody has been aware of the bushfires in Australia. There's a regular article we put out, for example 2016–17 Australian bushfire season, because of course we have most of our bushfires in the Southern Hemisphere summer which spans two years. We've been doing this for years, and it's usually a pretty uncontroversial thing.

Not this year. There have been all sorts of political aspects, and supporters of various political positions have been having a go at our article, not wanting to talk about the fires so much as make sure that they get their particular views into Wikipedia and that makes it official.

Sigh.

It's turned into a bit of a hotbed, and it's just massive compared to previous years: 2019–20 Australian bushfire season

I've tried to stay out of all that, but I got pulled in when I saw some edit-warring over something really stupid. (Story of my life, I guess.) The end date of the bushfire season. In previous years, we've gone along with the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, and they have a graphic showing the season in various regions, and it starts in winter (June-August) in the northern parts where the summers are really wet, and ends in spring (March-May) in Tasmania. So the Australian bushfire season really goes all year round from June of one year to May of the next.

I didn't know this at first, and the question in this year's article was that if all the summer bushfires were out, then perhaps the season was over? One guy said March was the end of the season because all of the bushfires were out, and another said the end of the season was ongoing because there might be more. This sounded like he had a handy view into the future to me, and I got sucked in over the philosophical implications.

Anyways, it got pretty heated there, with edit-warring and some trolling and a personal attack or two.

I was proposing an RfC on the season end date, going by the advice of Cas Liber who had waded into the flames and told us to stop throwing rocks at each other. I didn't see that this particular comment was anything but personal, so I looked up WP:RPA, removed it and left the suggested template.

The other guy complained to Admin Cas, who presumably sighed, grabbed his fire extinguisher, and jumped in once more. No criticism of Cas Liber, but I'd put in a comment about my philosophy on Wikipedia:

God forbid that any article should be seen as the personal preserve of a clique who launch personal attacks and edit-war over trivia. Let us set aside ego and attachment, and calmly accept that wikiprocedure will guide us through any difficulty.

and Cas removed it, saying that if I could remove someone else's personal attack, then he could remove my comments, which were not actually directed at anybody in particular, and are sentiments I hold pretty close to my heart and consider could usefully be employed by more people, not just in Wikipedia, but in wider life.

I think that civility piece, that minimum standard, is incredibly important, what I want us to do is to raise the level in the entire community, to raise the spirit of what we're doing, and I think that thinking about love, is the right way to do that. - Jimbo

Again, not a breath of criticism toward Cas, but where does the community of admins stand on the matter of humble editors pushing the line of civility and tolerance so eloquently expressed by Jimbo?

Is it really the place of admins to remove comments which while not strictly dealing with the business of the article, are aimed at promoting cooperation and a positive working environment? --Pete (talk) 23:44, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - see Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point and Wikipedia:Gaming_the_system#Gaming_the_consensus-building_process. Making a page a wall of text inhibits productive discussion. Feel free at attract other opinions at WP:AN/I if you really want to defend the comments that I have removed. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:51, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've put it up. I don't take your actions personal, as I stick by the philosophy quote I hold close to my heart. --Pete (talk) 00:00, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(shrugs) okay then..... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since one of the main protagonists at that article now seems to be otherwise engaged, and discussion on the Talk page has died right down (apart from some good suggestions for improvements), do you think it's time to unprotect it so that sensible editing might continue? Perhaps with some sort of caveat that any change in the area that caused all the heat (the end date of the fire season) be discouraged. HiLo48 (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks HiLo48 (talk) 22:11, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I try to speak with a gentle voice, and to steer discussion toward wikiwork, not personalities, but it seems that one editor on the bushfires page prefers otherwise. I'd remove his latest as an obvious personal attack, but based on previous form, he'd revert and claim the mandate of heaven for his abuse, and it would all turn into more disruption.

I'll ignore him unless he actually makes some response which is on-topic, but I shouldn't have to cop such abuse. Nor should any editor.

If not yourself, do you have some thoughtful friend who might guide editors to wisdom? --Pete (talk) 01:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It will take time for the heat to die down at that talk page. I recommend leaving it for two months, by which time it will be May. Wikipedia is a big place. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:59, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So you condone incivility as a way of resolving disputes? That doesn't sound right. --Pete (talk) 08:43, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No. But neither does it invalidate their arguments. Fact is, your position did change and it seemed that in the end, if you want it to say 'May' then waiting till May when sources say it has ended in May would be prudent. So just leave it till then. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:37, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pish. My position is unimportant. We editors are not sources. I changed my stance when I found what we'd done in previous years. We're never going to get an official source saying this season ended in May. The only sources I can find indicate February or March.[4][5][6] Try it for yourself: Google "2020 bushfire season end". --Pete (talk) 20:38, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Rigel you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 13:20, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Darts Hello, Casliber. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Darts Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Transglobe Expedition • Company Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Germs_found_in_rain_water_in_Australia_and_the_symptoms_of_the_germs.  ?? - worth looking at or perhaps salting to other items? JarrahTree 10:25, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(shrugs)...does it replicate anything we have. Has potential I think. Will need to read again later. I'd leave it for the moment. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Million Award
	For your contributions to bring Bipolar disorder (estimated annual readership: 2,300,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! Reidgreg (talk) 12:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you for your many contributions to improve this vital article! – Reidgreg (talk) 12:57, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cas and Graham Beards, I am very confused by the feedback here, and suggest that if we must overcome bureaucracy to run a relevant and topical TFA, I don't know what the process is about any more. I am not going to jump through hoops to advance someone else's helpful idea ... and helpful it was, considering we had the chance to showcase something worthy and topical on the mainpage. The coronavirus content all over ITN is pretty disappointing. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:36, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SandyGeorgia, I have not taken part in the discussions because there is a possible COI. I think it is being suggested that the Introduction article should be "updated" to include the emergent viruses such as SARS and SAR-2 (the current pandemic strain) and then approval of the new content to be obtained from the med project. The former I am happy to do (although I always regarded the Introduction article to be an overview) the latter I am not. To be frank, from what I have seen with the plethora of COVID articles, where our treasured WP:MEDRS seems to have all but abandoned, the project no longer has my trust (and hasn't for sometime). Graham Beards (talk) 02:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hear you. The COVID articles are a wreck across the board, and it is appalling that this odd and hard-to-understand logic is being applied to a virus FA which would be a perfect complement to the mainpage. I guess ... it was a good and sensible TFA idea but I wash my hands of this little ... whatever it is. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hang on, what approval of what content do you mean @Graham Beards:? I am missing something...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:52, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently there are some “leading lights” of Wp:Med and “they” are to be consulted. Curiously, none of the Wp:med fa writers know who these luminescent ones might be or how we seek their approval without canvassing. This whole thing is very odd, and considering it was someone else’s idea, I have no further interest in advancing it. There was already a thread at wt:med. I guess wehwalt just doesn’t want to do a bit extra to add value to the FA process. Oddest set of TFA requirements I have ever seen. Yet Ealdgyth was all set to go with it ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, going over the article as I suggested is straightforward enough and would be good regardless of it being mainpaged or otherwise. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:24, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have been asleep, it's early morning in the UK. Sandy's synopsis is accurate. I have responded at Talk:Introduction to viruses. I must stress that this was not my or Sandy's idea and up to now I have not partaken in any discussions. Perhaps my skin is too thin, but there have been hurtful innuendos regarding my competence which are demoralising. I brought a vital article to FA, served as FAC coordinator for years but still have to get my worked checked by "leading lights" at a dysfunctional project. I have had my fair share of exposure on the Main Page. There is nothing in this for me apart more concern about inaccurate edits on top of all the problems I am having to deal with at the plethora of coronavirus articles where some helpful input from leading lights would not go amiss. Graham Beards (talk) 07:58, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Graham Beards where might I help that I won't end up blocked? I created White House Coronavirus Task Force, which led me to look into 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United States, which is so horrid I had to unwatch before I blew a circuit. (I did make a few changes first, and suggested on talk page that the article is dreadfully POV and not useful to our readers.) If there is a place I can help without getting into trouble, please point me to it, but all of these articles are in gross violation of not just MEDRS, but everything else (UNDUE, POV, NOTNEWS, the works). They shouldn't be on the mainpage. But I will help you if you can point me to an article that is medical and not political. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:17, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So, I see the problem mentioned by Graham Beards. Seeing his post, I dug in to try and help, but with stuff like this, I am pretty sure it is better to unwatch. This is futile, apparently, and WPMED is NOT doing anything about it, and who needs the headache. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The article Rigel you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Rigel for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 11:40, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cas Liber, at the moment Prep 3 is ready for promotion. If you have time, do you think you could promote it to Queue 3, assuming another admin doesn't get there first?

Right now, we need to open up one more prep so we can move the lead hook (and any others) out of Prep 1 so it can be used for assembling the April Fools' Day list, so it would be very helpful to have that done. At the moment, the planned lead hook for Prep 4 is a subject of intense discussion, as there is a disagreement about what the best approach is, so it may be another day or so before it's ready for promotion.

Many thanks for whatever you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:03, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That was quick, and most welcome. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:14, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another day, another set of empty queues. Might you be able to promote Prep 6 to Queue 6? I'd leave Prep 1 there a little while longer, since there's a plan to move the lead hook to a different position in the set so the image doesn't give away the joke. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:41, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, on it. Hope you're keeping safe, wherever you are. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doing fine here; thanks for the good wishes. I hope all is safe where you are. Thank you very much for the promotion! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

heh, thx! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heh thanks! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Horologium (constellation)! - Easter was unusual, hope good for you, and I subtitled it "return of kindness", - see my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cas, and other lurkers :D My Banksia ashbyi plant is being particular helpful and productive this year it has given a nice little show of the various stages of the flower growth all at once you can view the photos on commons. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Banksia_ashbyi_flowering_stages I'll keep adding to this as the progress over the next few months. This plant was from Lulfitz a few years a go it wasnt identified as a subspecies or cultivar. Gnangarra 06:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If it is short and stubby it is most likely the northern subspecies boreoscaia. George thought that one was cool. The progression is really cool. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

yep its short and stubby, it is pretty cool and its taken a few years to get to this point. Gnangarra 12:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• cat rename now at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Banksia_ashbyi_flower_growth_sequence

Casliber, a few years ago you did a pre-FAC review for me at Packers sweep. If you are still doing these types of reviews, would you be willing and interested in taking a look at Bob Mann (American football)? Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Later today Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

April–May 2020 GAN Backlog Drive As you have taken part in previous GAN Backlog drives, or are a prolific GAN reviewer, you might be interested to know that the April–May 2020 GAN Backlog Drive starts on April 1, and will continue until the end of May.

Harrias ^talk 06:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]