User talk:ArtVandelay13/Archive 1

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Just out of interest what makes you think that Le Tallec is a midfielder? When he played for Sunderland or France U21s he played upfront as far as I'm aware. The only reason he's not really played as a striker for Liverpool is more because of competition than his natural position. He's a Bergkamp-type player in my eyes. Bergkamp isn't a midfielder. aLii 00:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I think he's more withdrawn than Bergkamp, a bit like Jari Litmanen who is also often considered a midfielder. I think it's debatable whether he's a midfielder or a forward - and I guess I am going on his appearances for Liverpool - but I think the term 'striker' is a misnomer, he's far from an out-and-out striker. I think in CM terms he'd be a AM/F C. 10:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Heh, sorry about the edit conflict just now that resulted in my overwriting some of your edit; I noticed that you had to restore Medjani to the squad list, so just wanted to let you know that it wasn't an attempt to revert your edit, but rather a simple oversight! Seb Patrick 15:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I thought as much. He hasn't been the most memorable player... ArtVandelay13 15:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that you changed the banner to the bordered one with the edit summary (taller banner as standard). I never realised that the banner was actually taller - this is a fault with Internet Explorer that can be fixed by removing the text cellpadding="0" from the second line. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I think the smaller banner (as intended) looks much better, and if there's no objection, it should be the standard version.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk   14:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realise it was a mistake. To be honest, I prefer the taller banner, it stands out more. I guess we'll see what people think. ArtVandelay13 15:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I saw your tag on Gary Holt.

I'd like to create the same feature for Norwich City players. How do I do it?!?!?! --Dweller 11:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, follow Template_talk:Football squad2 start for instructions. ArtVandelay13 17:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I've started a discusion here in which you may like to have your say. Thanks.  Slumgum T. C.   15:06, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The article on Liverpool F.C. Reserves has recently been nominated for deletion. I note that you have in the past contributed to the article, and was wondering whether you might participate in the debate over whether to keep it. I personally think that it is a useful place to keep information about the Reserve team which is notable in its own right, but may not be notable enough to include in the main Liverpool F.C. article without bloating it too much. I hope you'll find your way to supporting its continued existance. Cheers. Robotforaday 12:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, I see your point about table width. If I were you and I wanted to reduce width I would abbreviate the entries in the "Division" column (like Arsenal F.C. seasons) and drop the Charity Shield column entirely, as it is not as important a competition as the rest. Qwghlm 23:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, you could also put a forced break between the words "Average" and "attendance" in the column header, to make that column narrower. Qwghlm 23:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for contributing this article! If you write more new articles about German footballers, please announce them at Portal:Germany/New article announcements. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 13:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

You might also be interested in WikiProject Germany. Best wishes, Kusma (討論) 07:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it is a great idea but it will be quite big for some lines (eg: central) so a reduce in font size might be helpful but otherwise - go for it. Unisouth 08:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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can you pls explain me why ? [1] --Jor70 23:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

External links on major articles like this are pretty contentious and shouldn't be added without discussion. Suggest it on Talk:Liverpool F.C. and see what people say. ArtVandelay13 23:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

		Football (soccer) barnstar
		In recognition of your work to improve the quality and coverage of articles on Liverpool F.C. Robotforaday 15:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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• If you don't need a full name, why is it there to begin with?
• Why add his career details for FC Bayern II? I don't think stats from the reserve side meets the notable criteria.
• If fussballdaten.de does the job a lot better why not use it as a source then for the stats?
• We both know that the youth system for Bayern contains more then just a reserve side. Kingjeff 17:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Bayern Munich has children as young as 8 or 9 in their youth system. You might want to look at Bayern Munich Junior Team. Why remove fussballdaten.de? It was under external links. Not under references.They play in the Regional Third Division, which is a high level of senior football. Well, this is still not a career for Bayern Reserves. We both know that every member of the reserves wants to play for the 1st team. For players with a middle name. Are you saying he doesn't have a middle name? Kingjeff 18:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, seeing you are interested in football I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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Can you substitute on your subpages all svg-images for railwaydiagrams, which are duplicates, with the other one ? That will be nice. You can find them here. The filenames start with "BSicon" and contain the substring "STB" somewhere behind. Thank you. 84.150.215.245 11:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I noticed you mentioning {{Sortname}} in discussion of List of Premier League players. I'd never heard of it before, and have now implemented it in List of England national football team captains. Thanks.  Sʟυмgυм • т • c  20:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I suddenly realised that you took care of some comments in the Liverpool F.C. peer review. In general I think this is ready for WP:FA nomination. If you like, I'll do it, or you could, in either case I believe this article is very close to getting there. Let me know what you'd like to do (or not do!) and I'll respond accordingly! Best regards, The Rambling Man 22:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Art, I have been impressed with your policing of LFC and overall contributions to Wikipedia and would like to nominate you for admin. Barfbagger 20:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough if you don't want to. Could you click on the link to your name in the above box and then decline where it says Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:. Barfbagger 04:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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I agree with your reversion on {{Liverpool F.C.}} and have done the same myself on {{Arsenal F.C.}} - though the two clubs have often fought for the same trophies there is little rivalry in the sense of Arsenal's against Tottenham or Chelsea, or Liverpool's against Everton or Man United. The whole Liverpool and Arsenal Football Rivalry is a pile of uncited POV and the comment on Talk:Liverpool and Arsenal Football Rivalry suggests the article creator is oblivious to WP:OWN, so I would suggest nominating for deletion. Your thoughts on the matter would be welcome. Qwghlm 20:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for suggesting this redirect be deleted. However, if you could make this mistake, it's likely others could too, and a redirect hardly costs anything in terms of server resources, so I've decided against deleting it. Thanks again! Johnleemk | Talk 14:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Good work on putting the kits into the articles. It's nice to have something decorative there, even if we can't have the club logos. PeeJay 00:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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If you could make this typo, so could someone else; redirects are normally quite harmless, so it's best to leave them be. :) Johnleemk | Talk 19:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Would you like to join a FC Bayern Munich Taskforce at WikiProject Munich? Kingjeff 20:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

This section was removed due to WP:BLP concerns, please do not restore it without citing a reliable source. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 20:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I have nominated this article for deletion on grounds of dubious notability (failing WP:BIO) in the event you would like to comment. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The issue isn't whether he's a professional or not, though. The issue is whether he should be included in a category that explicitly states that it is for "footballers who have played for Manchester United", when he has not yet played for them. As Hargreaves has never played a game for United, but undoubtedly will in the near future, I have commented out the category until such time. - PeeJay 22:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I am paying attention, but if you would just look at the category and read the writing at the top, you will see that, as I said, it is for "footballers who have played for Manchester United". To use your example, if Ben Collett never played a game for United, which I don't think he did, then he should be removed from the category. - PeeJay 22:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, let's hark back to the discussion they had at WP:FOOTY. Take Dietmar Hamann for example. He was at Bolton for less than a day before changing his mind and deciding that he wanted to join Manchester City. Should he be categorised as a Bolton player? (Yes, I know he's in the Bolton Wanderers F.C. players category, but let's be hypothetical here) Personally, I don't think Hamann should be categorised as a Bolton player, a) because he never played a game for them; and b) because he was only there for a day and, effectively, never wanted to be there in the first place.

Another example is the Premier League players category. There, they are much more specific about their qualification criteria. They say that, for a player to be included, they must have "appeared in at least one first-team league game in the English Premier League, which commenced play in 1992". So while the category may say "Premier League players", not every player who was contracted to a Premier League club is included. - PeeJay 22:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Well look, I see your point. I do disagree with you, but since I don't doubt that Hargreaves will make his United debut on Wednesday, I won't argue if you uncomment the category now. - PeeJay 22:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks so much for your contributions to the article. I'm not sure about how encyclopedic the kit pictures are. Clearly you do (!) Are the kits included in similar articles? --Dweller 16:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. --Dweller 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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The Steve Staunton article received heavy editing today by unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comment. I assume it's just an oversight. --Dweller 23:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I see you have moved this article from Ludovic Quiston (footballer) to Ludovic Quiston, but I do worry, because although it is clear that he is an international football and the information is there, I have often made the Ludovic Quiston page and some clever dickhead has just deleted it off, so this time I deceded to try making the article as Ludovic Quiston (footballer), do you think they will delete it off again? Stew jones 21:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Bad news, as I suspected the Ludovic Quiston article has been deleted Stew jones 23:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[2] Consensus where? I'm not doubting it, just wondering where it is. Thanks. John Hayes^talk 16:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

On another note, I was wondering why there is not an LFC taskforce (unless I am being really stupid). It would seem to me, based on the example of Bayern Munich there would be enough articles for one. John Hayes^talk 16:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah thanks, that explained it. Well I will look into setting one up. John Hayes^talk 20:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Liverpool_task_force John Hayes^talk 09:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, you are quite right, I will request that it is fixed. John Hayes^talk 20:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, it has now been changed, all the talk pages affected will need to be saved before they are removed from the list. John Hayes^talk 10:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Should all be ok now. By the way I really like User:ArtVandelay13/LFCEurope, why don't we move it to the main namespace? Clearly it needs more work as it is only some of the years, but it looks like a nice article. John Hayes^talk 12:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Cameron Belford, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cameron Belford. Thank you. robwingfield ^«T•C» 23:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead with the prod, I see no difficulties with it going through. Kingjamie 17:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on the York City players FLC, which I have now dealt with. But, I was just wondering about your thinking behind loans and permament spells. If Jones' loan was, for example, made from 1996-1997, instead of 1997-1998, merging loan and permament years wouldn't work. This would be counted as two spells, wouldn't it? Mattythewhite 16:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Is there anything else I could do to win your support for the list? Mattythewhite 11:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello there, ArtVandelay13. Just popping in to wish you a well-deserved happy Russian National Unity Day! Love, Yeanold Viskersenn 14:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 18:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Could you please use edit summaries? Thanks, Punkmorten 12:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that mate, got in a bit of a mess as you could probably tell, I improved it slightly but not completely.

Thanks againSmithy33 (talk) 22:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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I know he has played league football for Barnet, but I don't view him as being notable, he has only played two league games in his whole career and has yet to find a new club. Would you agree with the deletion of the article? Cg29692 (talk) 16:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated Phillip Palethorpe, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip Palethorpe. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. robwingfield ^«T•C» 19:17, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

On what grounds do you stand to say that Ivan Becerra plays for Wake Forest University? He has already played for UCSB (graduated in 2006) and has played professionally with the Columbus Crew. You should know that, so stop vandalizing.

Edited to add my name (hopefully). It's GauchoDude if this doesn't work. GauchoDude (talk) 21:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. The discussion regarding this move has advanced somewhat since you cast your Oppose vote, and your reasoning has been responded to. Would you perhaps re-examine the evidence with a view to reconsidering your vote? – PeeJay 01:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I'm sorry I didn't notify you about nominating the category for deletion, and for that I apologise. As I have already stated on the WP:DRV discussion, I have no problem with restoring and relisting the category on WP:CFD. I would still vote delete, though, as I believe this category is both unnecessary and dificult to keep up to date. --Badmotorfinger (talk) 17:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

This is the article on that player Alex Smith (footballer born 1940) y8c (talk) 10:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello! You contributed to AfD:Paul Rodgers by voting to keep him. As you may know, WP:FOOTY is currently working to finalize a Notability criteria. One of the points of the current suggestion that are still being debated is more or less a translation of AfD:Paul Rodgers. I'm now trying to come up with a suggestion that summarizes this AfD, and would like you to comment on my interpretation of your arguments, and perhaps even discuss a suggestion. Thank you! Sebisthlm (talk) 20:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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Just to add to the automated message, I don't really want to do this, but these are the rules currently, hopefully we can resurrect these articles soon. John Hayes^talk 02:26, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I hope you didn't leave the taskforce because of these deletions? John Hayes^talk 23:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry if that tipped that balance, you will be a loss to the taskforce and the project as a whole. I have to agree that the new rules are pretty stupid, but unfortunately that is what I have to work with, and I didn't want to appear biased towards LFC articles, especially as I had been accused of marking non notable Liverpool articles as supported by the project. I intend to resurrect them as soon as they meet whatever the rules will be. :( John Hayes^talk 23:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well thanks for all your work, if there is still anything in your userspace which might be useful to the taskforce let me know. John Hayes^talk 23:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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In the Teslim Fatusi article, his stats include a 2001 stint at 1. FC Magdeburg. May I ask where you got that from? I can't for the life of me remember this player as having played for my club... Madcynic (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thing is, at the end of 2000/01 season 1. FC Magdeburg almost went bust, was relegated and so on, I have my doubts as to whether they would even have tried to sign a guy like him, you know? Madcynic (talk) 16:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Crud, you're right, of course it was the following season. I'll take him out nevertheless. Don't have a subscription there either...African players are very hard to keep track of, unfortunately. Madcynic (talk) 18:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi! He is Éric Mura, a defender. I've created an article about him and add a link at 1991 European Cup Final. I'm pleased you can find the squad lists for this final. Keep up the good work!--Latouffedisco (talk) 09:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, but it was easier than finding these squad lists. Thanks.--Latouffedisco (talk) 10:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

He is midfielder Régis Castant. He had an amazing career, beginning as a professional with Bordeaux, and then joined amateur team from nearby FC Libourne-Saint-Seurin a team that reached Ligue 2 in 2006 after years and years in lower leagues. He is still playing for the team, by the way. I will create an article about him soon, but some datas are hard to find on the web: I need to use some old magazines I have! By the way, if you can find the 1976 European Cup Final squads, it would be very interesting, as this match has a special significance for French football fans, like me! Best regards.--Latouffedisco (talk) 13:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I hope so, would be great! What you have found so far is already excellent. Keep up the good work!--Latouffedisco (talk) 13:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this edit, what is the difference here? It is taken from the official website. Do we have to wait till the number is formally announced through the press or in a game? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 19:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 04:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, I've been watching your contributions around Dynamo Dresden for quite a while a now. Keep up the good work! Have fun with this ;-) --X-Weinzar (talk) 17:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, just to let you know I've addressed your comments at the List of former Football League clubs FLC. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:37, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi there - you recently contributed to this thread at WT:WPF. Could you possibly spare the time to contribute the same thoughts to Talk:Arsenal F.C.? I'm having to deal with one particularly zealous user there who is calling me a vandal (while themselves deleting the discussion) and more reasoned and measured contributions to the discussion would be very much welcome. Thanks. Qwghlm (talk) 22:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. Consensus on WT:WPF is very much in support of UEFA and there are only a couple of dissenters on the page but they're driving me mad, particularly as it means some younger players aren't getting recognition they deserve. Alas WP:3RR means I can't revert them again today. Qwghlm (talk) 08:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

*sigh* Not going to intervene on that one. Not totally happy with the resulting compromise on Talk:Arsenal F.C. (only players who have been in first-team squads) but to argue any further would have been ridiculous, so it was worth it just to let the topic rest. Qwghlm (talk) 12:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Not to worry - when the Carling Cup gets going in a couple of weeks I imagine a lot of this will be moot - especially as some of the more established reserve players like Barazite, Nordtveit and Lansbury are or will be out on loan, there'll be quite a few new faces I imagine. The list will end up being pretty similar to the UEFA list, I'll bet. Qwghlm (talk) 13:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey man, I noticed that you are listed as having a copy of "PFA Premier and Football League Players Records (1946-2005)". I'm trying to get hold of a copy for myself, but the only ones I can find are over £30! Would you say it's worth the money? – PeeJay 16:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Any chance you have the 1888-1939 version by Michael Joyce too? I'm considering getting both, just to fill out the football reference section of my bookshelf, but £60 is a lot to spend on two books. – PeeJay 21:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Cheers for the tip on the 1946-2005 edition anyway. Now to save up some cash! – PeeJay 22:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought that Lee Hodges had transferred to AFC Hornchurch from Billericay Town? He is shown in their team sheet against Saffron Waldon on Saturday 13th September. Winston Smiff (talk) 13:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. As you seem to be a Liverpool fan, I wonder if you might be able to help me find some biographical data about your former right-half, Matt Busby. His article is WP:MUFC's collaboration of the month, so I'll be trying to expand it to FA status over the next few weeks. However, since most of my sources are about Man Utd, most of the info about the man himself focuses on his time as United manager. Any info you can provide would be most helpful. – PeeJay 22:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Like I say, there's not much in my Man Utd books about Busby's time at Man City or Liverpool, other than numbers of appearances and goals. Whatever you can give me will be great. – PeeJay 08:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick note: I had to nominate Category:1. FC Nuremburg matches for speedy delition and moved the pages from it to Category:1. FC Nuremberg matches. Just a tiny typo, thats all. Great work otherwise, I see your name around a lot on German football articles! EA210269 (talk) 01:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi ArtVandelay13!

Where do you get all this great info about the cup finals? What I added is mostly from weltfussball.de and fussballdaten.de but they don't really have info about the team formations and none about the team kits.

Regards, OdinFK (talk) 20:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to say good job on the template. Looks really good. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Art. I saw that you contested the PROD on this article, so just as a matter of courtesy I'm letting you know I've moved this to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fran Moore. Bettia (rawr!) 12:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit. I really shouldn't edit wikipedia while i'm supposed to listen to my lectures at uni... How silly of me not to notice Wismar were his youth teams. Madcynic (talk) 14:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, being from East Germany (Magdeburg) and having met the guy, I kinda figured I should. And university classes were boring, so I finally managed to do it. Madcynic (talk) 16:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done. Good work fixing up the article. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 14:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

As requested, I re-reviewed the above FLC. Best, --TRU_CO 01:05, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

You have made a lot of improvement on the article; I suggest contacting the other commenters and telling them to reconsider their opposes and perhaps add more specific comments. I also have left a couple more comments. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 00:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

You may need to re-contact SRX (TRUco) to re-review your article again. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, List of Sweden international footballers is up at WP:Featured list removal candidates to improve the article to meet current Featured List standards. Since you wrote List of Germany international footballers, I thought you could help with this one. Reviewers' concerns are here. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 02:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I read the whole lead except the last paragragh. I feel like an idiot. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 18:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

If you know links and things for him, then please add them. I couldn't find much. Govvy (talk) 17:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

An admin has gone and delete him :/ Govvy (talk) 17:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I have posted a question at Wikipedia:Deletion review#Mili.C4.87_Jovanovi.C4.87 which you may be able to answer. Can you please return to that discussion to answer it? Stifle (talk) 09:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

As you've just created the red link in ZFC Meuselwitz, am I to assume you will do the ensuing article then? Otherwise I could do it in the next few hours... Madcynic (talk) 13:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi I noticed you have changed a number of edits I made on the list, especially the lead. Personally I feel my version was better as it was probably reference and explained the topic better for people who do not understans the german league, please feel free to discuss this. I think you should nkow I intend to nominate this at FLC later, so I hope we can come to an agreement. NapHit (talk) 20:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm I disagree, information about the structure of the league ad how it works is necessary, It doesn't really matter what place the war is mentioned it s fine where it is. The split with East Germany doesn't need to be in great detail either. I felt your lead was not particularly great and would require a lot of copy editing at FL, also my lead is properly referenced as opposed to yours, anyway I'm going to nominate the list now, your help with the nomination would be appreciated. I also changed some back that you changed Hamburger SV are known as Hamburg here and 1. FC Nuremberg are known as Nurnberg but I'll settle for FC Nuremberg. NapHit (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

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I posted this note in reply to your comments at PR, but I wanted to make sure you saw it. Don't give up on the photo, Image:Joachim Löw.JPG. I think it's probably OK and that only the licensing page needs fixing. I poked around this morning and found a User:FlorianK, who is probably the Florian K mentioned on the image description page as the author. I'd suggest posting a note to FlorianK to ask about this. If my hunch is correct, the problem can be fixed by replacing the dead link to Florian K with a live one to User:FlorianK. Finetooth (talk) 19:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi there

As this FLC appears to have stagnated a bit, and the original nominator seems to have stopped addressing comments, I have decided to step in, and have rectified what I perceived to be all the outstanding queries. I was wondering if you would be prepared to drop by and re-appraise it....?

Cheers! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Please have a look at my explanation for the sort. The rule in general use is sorting by city/town/village name, not by team nick. What you've applied would set up SG Dynamo Hohenschönhausen as an exception. The Dynamo's, Eintracht's, SC's, FC's, VfB's, etc. are not all lumped together, but the Frankfurt's, Feurth's, Munich's, etc. are. Thx. Wiggy! (talk) 20:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for fixing the infobox on Charlie Duncan. It's weird though, because I'd noticed the mistake and thought I'd fixed it myself. Must have pressed preview and assumed I'd pressed save, or something... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for making the infobox Template:Deutsche Bahn , just what was needed.FengRail (talk) 19:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks. Yes, it's quite difficult to find information about unused substitutes and I don't know if there's a complete database online. I made researches in internet, trying to compare as many sources as possible. Fans' website can give some detailed data (e.g. http://www.myjuve.it/stagione-1985-juventus/coppa_intercontinentale-juventus-argentinos_juniors-2-2-2617.aspx , http://www.juventus.altervista.org/1996int.htm). For the 1996 Final I had also a newspaper of the day after, but still I could not find the jersey number of the River Plate subs. Moreover, I found out the number of the substitutes in the 1985 Final by watching videos from youtube. WTer (talk) 11:24, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Have you missed the discussion at WP:FOOTY?; players who have been released won't leave their the club until contracts expire on 1 July 2009. Regards, GiantSnowman 10:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

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Category:Hertha BSC Berlin matches (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) which you created is being discussed at cfd. Occuli (talk) 12:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you please find a source? Spiderone (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

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I'll start a discussion at the talk page to see whether consesus decrees it is 3 or 5 spells. I'm not fussed either way to be honest, as long as it's accurate and agreed upon. Cheers, GiantSnowman 13:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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Hi ArtVandelay13! I requested speedy deletion of the Johann Gajda article because User:Jaellee and I both came to the conclusion that Gajda wouldn't pass WP:N, seeing as he never played football for a professional club and that the teams he managed were in the lower German leagues. I created the stub over two years ago, unaware of the criteria, but in spite of this, I can't see how the article can stay. Even at Olympiacos F.C. he wasn't head coach. Would you mind if I request speedy deletion again, or can you find some references for inclusion? I'd appreciate your views. Jared Preston (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply on my page. I do agree with the benefit of the doubt and it seems petty to delete the article for the sake of exclusionists, however, the infobox is wrong – at Olympiacos he was an assistant manager and at Hertha BSC he apparently only played for the 2nd or 3rd string team. Unfortunately, I don't think we can get around this. Jared Preston (talk) 14:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. It's good to see that my idea for navboxes for clubs' matches seems to be catching on! Do you think it's worth doing them for a few other clubs? – PeeJay 13:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

What's your reasoning for undoing my additions of categories for Alaba? He is Filipino AND Nigerian. He just represents Austria at international level and should retain categories of being a Filipino and Nigerian footballer. Banana Fingers (talk) 06:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page... just in case you didn't put it on your watch list...

Fair enough about the "Filipino expatriate" category, but he is Filipino therefore the "Filipino footballer" category should stand. It's not as if one of his grandparents or some far distant grandparent was Filipino, it's his mother that's a Filipina which makes him Filipino regardless of him being Austrian born and representing Austria. Banana Fingers (talk) 16:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's a hoax - see my post for more details. Well spotted! This is going to take a bit of cleaning up... Knepflerle (talk) 00:23, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi there ART, VASCO here,

Regarding Simon Jentzsch: OK there, you gave absolutely no chance at all, reverting immediately, and offering an explanation i did not understand (adjective?). Don't worry, i will not edit there anymore...

My tactics were made clear i think in my summary, but i'll make another attempt in this message: i think club names should be compressed in box, written in full in storyline. I don't see the point of having "Vfl Wolfsburg" in box (only club in THE WORLD with that name, at least professionally) but OK, as i said, don't worry, i won't make any more edits in his page.

Keep up the good work (was only trying to help!), VASCO, Portugal - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be the other way around. The infobox should have the full club name, with maybe only the city name in the text. What I think Vasco doesn't understand is that Karlsruher SC is a team from Karlsruhe, and that Karlsruher is the adjective of the city. Jared Preston (talk) 21:08, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

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I reverted your revision to exclude the assertion that Thomas Muller is Gerd Muller's namesake. The wikipedia page, and any dictionary definition of "namesake" clearly states that it's when a person, place, thing, etc is named out of regard for another. That would be the case with Muller if his first name was Gerd in honor of Gerd Muller. Cristiano Ronaldo for instance, is named out of regard for Ronald Reagan, so it would be factual to say that Ronald Reagan is Cristiano Ronaldo's namesake. It is not factual to say that Gerd Muller is Thomas Muller's namesake. Simply sharing the same family name is a coincidence, not a situation where Thomas was given the last name Muller out of regard for Gerd. 208.40.242.41 (talk) 01:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Retract my last, I'm reviewing the Oxford English Dictionary and am seeing that they define the term more broadly than we do on this side of the ocean. Regards. 01:12, 25 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.40.242.41 (talk)

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Günter Schröter. The community has decided that all new biographies of living persons must contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article as per our verifiability policy. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You asserted that it was Chelsea's sixth consecutive appearance in the Community Shield, but they didn't appear in the 2008 shield. – PeeJay 16:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

You forgot to add a copyright tag to File:DFL-Supercup-Logo.jpg that you uploaded recently. The source is no use at it does not link to any other copy of this image. The "purpose for use" is a necessary requirement for to justify the use of any non-free image. Please fix these issues. Thanks. ww2censor (talk) 13:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I've found no source for a relationship. If you have one integrate it. bneidror (talk) 15:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Has he actually been transfered? I can't find anything official on Bayern Munich's website. Kingjeff (talk) 22:33, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Turns out the transfer was only completed today. Maybe we only should use club websites for sources. Kingjeff (talk) 16:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have put Thomas Müller on hold for seven days, see the review page for the improvements that need to be made (there aren't much). If you are finished before seven days, just contact me and I will finish the review. Mr.Kennedy1 ^{talk guestbook} 16:42, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi there ART, VASCO from Portugal here,

What on earth was that reply on Festus Agu, to my anon address?!!?!? Maybe i was a bit hysterical, but "fuck off"? I am waiting for a sincere apology, rest assured, why those manners?

Now, for the technical approach: i told you "this is not German wiki" because you once told me that is the way German clubs are addressed to, but this in English wiki, first thing. Second, about WP:COMMONNAME: i feel infoboxes should be compressed to the maximum, giving the idea to the reader on where did the player play, the fullnames appear in storyline. Really, why should the box read "1. FC St. Pauli" when "St. Pauli" is more than enough to inform people, then the fullname in storyline should comply with the common name rule.

Your answer was one of the most rude i have ever received, if not the MOST without doing NOTHING before that merited it. I sure would like some explanation, if you think an apology is too much. Attentively - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 13:22, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

No way at all was this appropriate. I echo the above; please do not do such a thing again. NW (Talk) 19:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

• Apologies accepted, continue the good work. - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

The article Thomas Müller (footballer) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Thomas Müller (footballer) for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Mr.Kennedy1 ^{talk guestbook} 13:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for uploading this, but could you please upload such freely-licenced images to Wikimedia Commons? It would mean people don't need to transfer them over to sort out categorisation.

Also, I was wondering, do you happen to know the number of that 87 in the picture? I was at Willesden about a week later and it was still there, but I couldn't work out the number.

Thanks. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey there. You undid a correction of my own mistake upon creation of the Michael Woythe article. After World War II, Germany wasn't officially reunited until 1990. You are quite right, the Berlin Wall wasn't erected until 1961, but anyone born post-1949 in the western Bezirke of Berlin, or western Germany, was technically born in West Germany. Have a look at the West Germany article, I'm not a great historian myself, but Germany as it is today has only been a unified state since 3 October 1990. Please let me know if you have a different point of view. Jared Preston (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi there ART, VASCO here,

regarding your latest entry at the "German club names" discussion, in which i am again "under fire", i have replied there. Please re-reply if you like.

Compression or no compression aside, please check my work in Thomas Ernst, i think it will quickly show you what my intentions are. I may be a bit hysterical sometimes, but that's it. I am here to improve the site and work in harmony with the other well-intended users, and i know i don't own WP nor any of its articles.

Attentively - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 20:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:MOSBIO

Opening paragraph

The opening paragraph should have:

1. Name(s) and title(s), if any (see, for instance, also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility));
2. Dates of birth and death, if known (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates of birth and death);
3. Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity);
   1. In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national (according to each nationality law of the countries), or was a citizen when the person became notable.
   2. Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.

I have added the emphasis on 3.2, which is what I meant to reference in the article, not 3.1. We went through the same thing at Mesut Özil‎. There were several strong Turkish nationals who imposed their will to have his third-generation Turkish heritage emphasized in the opening paragraph and several footy people voiced strong objection to it on the talk page. I can't see this happening at Mehmet Ekici until FIFA recognizes him as playing for Turkey. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Ekici is a German national until he makes his appearance for Turkey senoir team or at least named to the game roster. Raul17 (talk) 23:01, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Please change your recent change. I am at WP:3RR and don't want to be blocked for breaking that. Your changed the lede to read "Mehmet Ekici (born 25 March 1990 in Turkish-Munich) is a German" when I think you meant to have it read "Mehmet Ekici (born 25 March 1990 in Munich) is a Turkish-German". I think it would be better as "Mehmet Ekici (born 25 March 1990 in Munich) is a German-born footballer of Turkish heritage" and the section on Turkish media claiming that he has elected to play at the national level for Turkey would tie-in with that. I also think it would be better left-out altogether since the reference (http://www.fcn.de/team/spieler/profil/ekici/) doesn't mention his Turkish heritage. I will mention it at the footy project if it is left in since it should be discussed.

I see that while I was writing this you made the change, but please consider my suggestion. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:22, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Jens Ramme at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 10:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Responded. - PM800 (talk) 22:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand your rationale for retaining those redlinks. Sure, some of those players might become notable IN THE FUTURE, but they're not notable yet. Removing the links not only removes the suggestion that they might be notable, but also helps to dissuade users from creating articles for said non-notable players. – PeeJay 10:01, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

You forget that it is possible to search through Wikipedia for articles that contain certain text strings. Hence, if a biographical article is created, its creator can search for instances where that person's name is mentioned in other articles and introduce a link there. Furthermore, many of the players mentioned in the FA Youth Cup Finals articles have long since given up on football as a career and would likely never be sufficiently notable to deserve an article. According to WP:RED, such links should be removed. – PeeJay 02:56, 23 November 2010 (UTC)