User:Alalch E./XfD log

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1. Donna McNeil: nominated at AfD; notified Kapyidu (talk · contribs) 23:54, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
   • Reason: Lack of WP:SIGCOV: depth of coverage is not sufficient and some of the used sources are not independent of the subject; subject does not meet WP:ANYBIO criteria. PROD objector described the subject as a creative professional, however the article doesn't claim that she is a creative professional, and I am unable to determine based on reliable coverage that the subject is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by "peers", nor am I able to determine fulfillment of other relevant SNG criteria, based on my WP:BEFORE.

1. Blackmill (musician): nominated at AfD; notified Mekalos (talk · contribs) 11:04, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This artist is not unknown. But the subject lacks notability, due to lack of sources. My WP:BEFORE does not reveal that the subject meets WP:GNG (no in-depth coverage), WP:MUSICBIO, WP:ANYBIO, or WP:BASIC (most sources don't contribute to notability). The used sources are really bad, such as the booking agency website and edm.com, which publishes sponsored content (on their website: "In the interest of journalistic integrity we here at EDM.com are committed to the transparency of our business model. A portion of our content is sponsored by advertisers and we cover music released by the record labels with which we partner.")
2. World CopperSmith: nominated at AfD; notified Genielying (talk · contribs) 00:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Fails WP:NCORP. I noticed this while it was in userspace. My WP:BEFORE didn't show any promise.
3. Katara (cultural village): nominated at RfD; Target: Katara Cultural Village (notified) 23:14, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Completely useless as a search term due to Katara and Katara Cultural Village, and implausible because of the disambiguator; the disambiguator is also wrong – Wikipedia doesn't think that this is a cultural village (not a village in the first place), it's a commercial and cultural district of Doha.

1. Category:Adult comedy films: nominated at CfD (CfM); merging to Category:Sex comedy films; notified Onifpaz (talk · contribs) 14:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This category only applies to certain Tamil and Telugu sex comedies. Such films from outside these cinematographies are not described as "adult comedy flms". It's also a euphemism.
2. Category:Adult film: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Wahspsneh (talk · contribs) 14:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: New nonsensical category including disparate things such as sex comedies, "adult animated films", and Adult Swim.
3. Category:Royal Brunei Air Force units: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Militum professio scriniarii (talk · contribs) 13:51, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: The user created multiple redirects to Royal Brunei Air Force Base, Rimba sections, then created this category to categorize those redirects. The category contains section redirects pertaining to a single article.
4. Cultural monuments of the Kosovo district: nominated at AfD; notified Leto III Atreides (talk · contribs) 17:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Short version: We don't want 31 lists (8 have been created so far but there are 23 to go), we don't want potentially even more than 31 lists, we want the two perfectly fine lists that we already have. And we want our stand-alone lists to follow WP:NLIST.
     Long version: These duplicative lists contain the following content: The 'cultural monument' entries from the Immovable Cultural Heritage of Exceptional Importance (Serbia) (first-tier official status) mixed together with entries from Immovable Cultural Heritage of Great Importance (Serbia) (second-tier); the resulting pool of entries is then split by administrative division, while isolating only the 'cultural monument' class from the other three classes of protected 'objects'. This list structure exists on the Serbian Wikipedia (sr:Категорија:Непокретна културна добра – entries containing "Списак споменика културе у"), and the author seems to have been copying those articles, perhaps not knowing that this whole topic has already received appropriate encyclopedic treatment here (if only on the list-level). The problems are as follows:
     * The content is simply duplicative with no additional depth provided. All of these entries are already included in appropriate lists, in a very similar table format. If the author wants to split the long-standing lists by district, he should propose a split, and not create pages that duplicate the scope. But splitting like this would be a bad idea, namely:
     * The nominated lists fail WP:LISTN, because grouping Serbian cultural heritage objects by administrative division is not supported by secondary sources. There is no meaningful link between the listed status and the district; these are national designations. Serbia is a unitary and fairly centralized country of 6,7 million people, and while the corresponding U.S. list is split territorially – by state (List of U.S. National Historic Landmarks by state), it makes no sense to treat Serbia's districts which are comparable to counties as if they were U.S. states. Such a grouping is not of any use to readers. There are currently eight such lists, but as there are 29 districts (24 functioning districts in Serbia proper and Vojvodina + 5 non-functioning districts making up the claimed province of Kosovo and Metohija) + 2 special-status cities, such continued creations would mean that the content currently covered by two articles is duplicated across 31 lists (that many exist on the Serbian Wikipedia). Going further...
     * Since the eight nominated pages are limited to 'cultural monuments', but seeing how Serbia's 'Immovable Cultural Heritage' comprises four classes of 'objects': 'cultural monuments', archaeological sites, 'historic landmarks' and 'spatial cultural-historical units', this means that we could get even more such articles for the remaining classes of objects. (Also, if selecting by administrative division, however irrelevant that is, why then also select only a single class of object?) Considering the tempo of these creations, and understanding that this is a part of wholesale copying of an entire list structure from another-language Wikipedia, this is edging toward WP:MASSCREATE.
     —Alalch E. 17:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

1. Brandon Stewart (musician): nominated at AfD; notified CEvansMCO (talk · contribs) 23:31, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: There is a lack of in-depth coverage in independent, reliable, sources.
     * The book Divine Orchestration: The Story of the Millennial Choirs & Orchestras written by Greg Trimble who says on his website: "I serve on ... the Board of Directors for The Millennial Choirs & Orchestras"; so it's a book from within the organization that Stewart is a co-founder of, about the organization, making this a non-independent source.
     * Another source, that is the most used, is the Millennial Choirs & Orchestras website.
     * There's some mention of Stewart's name in a single local (sub-regional) newspaper article.
     I was unable to find anything else. This means that the subject fails the relevant notability guidelines: WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:ARTIST (and WP:NBUSINESSPERSON to the extent that it would apply to a non-profit).

1. Hindu terrorism: nominated at AfD; notified Iamparmjit (talk · contribs) 02:02, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Time to WP:TNT this failure to have an article about something. We don't know what we are writing about. Let's figure that out first through discussion and drafting. Currently, the name says one thing, but the article itself says something else. The subject, as indicated by the title, that we're now fabulously stuck with for process reasons and the subject as outlined in the prose are not at all the same. Just as it was with the old name (which had indicated a WP:WORDISSUBJECT topic). It can be reasonably thought that the article confuses our readers and does not provide valid encyclopedic coverage of anything as it is incoherent and devoid of substance. The reasons for this go way deeper than the naming concerns, and are about the subject and content—or lack thereof.
     While there are long-lasting disputes on the talk page, the article has never been truly written. This pseudo-article fails Wikipedia:Write the article first: it arose from a desire to have a specifically titled article, but not nearly enough effort was put into filling the resulting page with encyclopedic coverage. There have been multiple comments for years how core coverage of the social phenomenon is lacking (what it is); this was never resolved.
     Notice the lack of a body section about what it—whatever it is—is.
     Apart from tragic structural deficiencies in coverage, this being a difficult and exceptionally sensitive subject to write about: the quality of coverage in all its parts (irrespective of the nebulous overarching topic) is subpar.
     Whatever editors agree to have an article about, some content should be reusable, so TNT doesn't imply that we should start again from a blank page. Draftification may be appropriate. There is no deadline, and while this is being worked out, it is better to offer nothing to our readers than something as unworthy as this.

1. Category:Dayak Culture: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Busu Neneng (talk · contribs) 16:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Category:Dayak people probably suffices as I can't identify any other article which should be added to this category. Considering WP:SMALLCAT, I don't believe that when an "[ethnic group]" category exists, there should automatically be an "[ethnic group] culture" subcat as a part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. If keeping, rename to Dayak culture.
2. Template:Indian Air Force ranks: nominated at TfD; notified Mkmkataria (talk · contribs) 21:48, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: The template was probably intended to look like Template:USAF DOR O-10. It looks terrible and should not be added to articles. Perhaps userfy until appropriate files for it are created/added. Also, the majority of its liks are red links, which is against the spirit of WP:REDNO.
3. Miraheze: nominated at AfD; notified Sapphire Williams (talk · contribs) 11:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Deleted in 2021: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miraheze. The sources are slightly better now as content is no longer entirely sourced to Miraheze sites, but the subject still doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NWEB. The Website Planet blog post is not independent from the site (as required under WP:WEBCRIT), as it's based on the statements of the founder. Other references are mostly about individual wikis, to which WP:INHERITWEB applies. My WP:BEFORE didn't reveal anything more.
4. Category:Temples in Anga Region: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Biharpro7252 (talk · contribs) 11:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: "Anga Region" is not a region of India. The category page describes the page as a list and links to Anga, which was an ancient Indo-Aryan tribe of eastern India whose existence is attested during the Iron Age. No mention of "Anga Region" or "Anga" in the articles. The temples do not have any connection to the Iron Age tribe.

1. Template:Proposed draft deletion notify: nominated at TfD; notified Ricky81682 (talk · contribs) 16:03, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Serves to facilitate draft prodding, but draft prodding is not and never was a thing
2. User:Arezush.76/امیرحسین شاکر: nominated at MfD; notified Arezush.76 (talk · contribs) 07:17, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: User:Arezush.76 is the coach of the fencer Amirhossein Shaker and uploaded this reference-free page which is a machine-translated Iranian Wikipedia article about Amirhossein Shaker (where it is undergoing AfD) to their userspace, but User:Shakeronly (who did not deny the implication that they are Amirhossein Shaker when asked not to write about himself) had already done this a short time ago, creating Draft:Amirhossein Shaker which does have references. If this page is not deleted it will stay like this forever. Not appropriate use of userspace. I tried to get the user to agree to G7 but they don't know English well enough to effectively communicate.
3. Myriad Sun: nominated at AfD; notified Jack4576 (talk · contribs) 18:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: A non-notable side project of a non-notable local/regional musician (whose main band, however, is notable). There are some brief concert reviews and there has been one single released under the project, with no reviews, all of which is insufficient for WP:NBAND. (WP:GNG is a higher bar and it also isn't met.)

1. First-person adventure: nominated at AfD; notified Ebelular (talk · contribs) 08:53, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Not really a distinct genre. During a short interval in the early 2000s it appears that this phrase circulated a little bit, but overall, nowadays, such games are categorized as action-adventure games. The notion of this hybrid genre named in this way this also conflicts with how a game like Myst is not a "first-person adventure" (a game of this hybrid genre, i.e. a first-person action adventure), but at the same time it is a first-person adventure (a first person adventure game, and it is often described using those words). Sourcing is lacking. Fails WP:GNG as a term.
2. The One About Friends: nominated at AfD; notified Neillavender (talk · contribs) 17:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This episode of The Cleveland Show does not individually meet WP:GNG. The references used are insufficient for a determination that the subject is notable, and my WP:BEFORE did not reveal significant coverage elsewhere. Articles about television series' episodes, like all articles, need to be about subjects that are notable in order to merit inclusion. Unilateral redirection was attempted two times, by longstanding editors, but has been reverted by IPs, and the most recent restoration was done by an IP with a singular focus on the series (see WP:SPA).

1. CGS (schools): nominated at AfD; notified Pol098 (talk · contribs) 22:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: List fails WP:NLIST, and if seen as a WP:SIA, it also fails NLIST (The criteria for creating, adding to, or deleting a set index article should be the same as for a stand-alone list.) But it should not be seen as a set index article because the members do not share the same or similar name. As initials are not names, having the same initials (together with ostensibly having the same initials, but not being known by these initials) does not change the fact that these are all essentially different names. Page resembles a dab and is tagged as a dab on the talk page, but it is expressly a list and not a dab, stating even that "Not all [entries] are known by their initials". Dab-valid entries appear to all be included in CGS (disambiguation)§Education, so there's nothing worth preserving here.
     See also:
     *Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IHS (schools)
     *Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AHS (high schools)
2. Talk:Zeitoun incident: nominated at RM; New name: Zeitoun killings 18:58, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: "Zeitoun incident" does not appear to be the WP:COMMONNAME (the single, obvious name that is demonstrably the most frequently used for the topic by a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)
     The proposed new name, "Zeitoun killings", which also appears in reliable sources (The Guardian, NYT), is not the WP:COMMONNAME either.
     In the absence of the true WP:COMMONNAME we should have a non-judgmental descriptive title (WP:NDESC). For events, a descriptive title means that the "what" part of the name, or the WP:DESCRIPTOR, needs to be specific and neutral. Not entirely non-specific like incident. The article discusses the killings that took place in Zeitoun. The word "killing" is neutral when used in the article, and would also be neutral in the title.
     "Killings" is therefore recommended under Wikipedia:Naming conventions (violence and deaths). It says that, for an article about particular, discrete, killings, when killings of peple by other people occur, and there is no conviction or convictions, the descriptor should be "killings".
3. Talk:Kidnapping of Shani Louk: nominated at RM; New name: Death of Shani Louk 22:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: We can not use this title because:
     # The article does not, in wikivoice, claim that Shani Louk was kidnapped
     # The claim that Shani Louk was kidnapped is not verifiable
     For these reasons the title fails WP:NDESC and WP:DESCRIPTOR, as it doesn't describe the event that is the subject of the article.
     We can use "Death of Shani Louk" because:
     #The article does, in wikivoice, claim that Shani Louk is dead
     #Shani Louk being dead is verifiable
     For these reasons "Death of Shani Louk" is a suitable title under WP:NDESC and WP:DESCRIPTOR, as it does describe the event as it it covered in the article.
     About using the descriptor "death" as opposed to "killing" or "murder" see WP:DEATHS. I, as the nominator, am not opposed to the name being Killing of Shani Louk either.
     If this topic is unclear to you, this new article by LA Times explains what happened: A young Israeli festivalgoer’s death is confirmed, shining light on families’ long ordeal
4. File:Shani Louk in Gaza City.jpg: (log) nominated at FfD; notified RodRabelo7 (talk · contribs) 21:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Wikipedia:Image use policy#Moral issues—Image was unfairly obtained (referring to the circumstances of the taking of the image).

1. Talk:Deportation of undocumented Afghans from Pakistan: nominated at RM; New name: Illegal Foreigners Repatriation Plan 23:27, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This is a procedural request. Editors have boldly moved to this title, which was opposed. I am starting this RM on their behalf.
2. Hamas beheading incidents: nominated at AfD; notified Greyshark09 (talk · contribs) 21:29, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: This is an inferior WP:CFORK of Kfar Aza massacre#Allegations of beheadings with a poorly referenced WP:SYNTH background, involving an unrelated beheading of a gay man in Palestine, not attributed to Hamas. The topic of beheadings done by Hamas is not notable independently of the Kfar Aza massacre.
3. Iman Gadzhi: nominated at AfD; notified Wallclockticking (talk · contribs) 12:44, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Doesn't pass WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:NCREATIVE, or WP:ENTERTAINER. None of the sources are all these three things at the same time: (1) independent of the subject, (2) reliable, (3) in-depth in terms of coverage. The person may have had some unspecified roles in some productions (World's Greatest Social Stars, Top 25!, etc.) but there is no evidence that these are significant productions and there is no evidence that these were significant roles. There is some coverage of a thing associated with the subject called "monk mode". Coverage of that is not meaningful in terms of sources useful for establishing notability either. The person has not made "unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment" and is not "known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique". His YouTube channel, TikTok and other online presences are not encyclopedically relevant at all.

1. Zedned: nominated at AfD; notified Babyqueendom (talk · contribs) 06:11, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: The subject is non-notable. The topic has not received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Further, when considering fulfilment of WP:NBAND criteria, there is no evidence per my WP:BEFORE that any are met. WP:BADCHARTS applies to the claim that the band has charted.
2. Category:As a service: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Marcocapelle (talk · contribs) 22:07, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Non-defining. Just a collocation within a phrasal template. It's only defining in the realm of Wikipedia:Marketing buzzspeak for marketing purposes but not for the purposes of encyclopedic categorization. Certain business models that contain "as a service" are defined as category:Service-oriented (business computing) in the context of Cloud computing, per that article. These include:{{blist
     |Infrastructure as a service
     |Software as a service
     |Platform as a service
     |Backend as a service
     |Function as a service
     }}
     :These belong to the Category:Service-oriented (business computing). Maybe, just maybe the following articles, included in the cloud computing navbox also belong to that category:{{blist
     |Content as a service
     |Data as a service
     |Desktop as a service
     |Network as a service
     |Security as a service
     }}
     :No article belongs to the "As a service" category (should already be clear from the name of the category that something is wrong with it). For example, Energy storage as a service and Mobility as a service have got nothing to do with the above mentioned topics, and the word "cloud" does not even appear in those articles. These are entirely different topics.
3. Madagascar chocolate: nominated at RfD; Target: Beyond Good (notified); notified Armani661 (talk · contribs) 00:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Anti-competitive-practice-style promotional redirect created by the creator of Beyond Good (a company that makes chocolate in Madagascar). Of course, Beyond Good is not the only producer of chocolate in Madagascar (see, for example, Chocolaterie Robert).
     Retarget to ? (I can't find a suitable target so I am bringing it here.)
4. Mr Wannabe (song): nominated at AfD; notified Babyqueendom (talk · contribs) 12:31, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: Not notable.
     Editing or incubating can not compensate for the present lack of notability, and there is no indication that this could eventually prove to be a notable topic. Merging is inappropriate because no article would benefit from the addition of any of this content, which is not adequately sourced, using reliable sources, and redirection is also inappropriate because there is no suitable target to redirect to, because Zedned as a subject of encyclopedic coverage also fails notability criteria, and that article's AfD is progressing towards a consenus to delete.
     Noting that WP:A9 doesn't apply, but it will apply again soon. See the past A9-deletion
     Blanking-and-redirecting could be a good idea, but editors may want to consider if all Zedned titles should be salted. Attention should be drawn to the creator of these articles. Zedned was recreated once after being draftified without leaving a redirect, and this has been recreated after the abovementioned speedy deletion.
5. Talk:Aquarius (beverage): nominated at RM 23:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
   • Reason: #* Aquarius (beverage) → Aquarius (drink)
     * Bevo (beverage) → Bevo (drink)
     * Chapo (beverage) → Chapo (drink)
     * Cheongju (beverage) → Cheongju (drink)
     * Ciel (beverage) → Ciel (drink)
     * Claret cup (beverage) → Claret cup (drink)
     * Concordia (beverage) → Concordia (drink)
     * Cranes (beverage) → Cranes (drink)
     * Hoppel poppel (beverage) → Hoppel poppel (drink)
     * Ironport (beverage) → Ironport (drink)
     * Jaguar (beverage) → Jaguar (drink)
     * Jarma (beverage) → Jarma (drink)
     * London fog (beverage) → London fog (drink)
     * Malamba (beverage) → Malamba (drink)
     * Masato (beverage) → Masato (drink)
     * Moke (beverage) → Moke (drink)
     * Mondo (beverage) → Mondo (drink)
     * Mulsum (beverage) → Mulsum (drink)
     * Oro (beverage) → Oro (drink)
     * Popo (beverage) → Popo (drink)
     * Quatro (beverage) → Quatro (drink)
     * Red Rock (beverage) → Red Rock (drink)
     * Sato (beverage) → Sato (drink)
     * Sedna (beverage) → Sedna (drink)
     * Sharbat (beverage) → Sharbat (drink)
     * Submarino (beverage) → Submarino (drink)
     * Terremoto (beverage) → Terremoto (drink)
     * Tonto (beverage) → Tonto (drink)
     * V8 (beverage) → V8 (drink)
     * ZICO (beverage) → ZICO (drink)
     This follows on the RM that spectacularly failed in moving a drink article from the "drink" disambiguator to the "beverage" diambiguator. There was significant agreement among editors that the disambiguator "drink" is the WP:CONDAB (Use consistent disambiguators for similar kinds of topics), and a disambiguator being the common disambiguator means that that disambiguator should be exclusively used. The disambiguator "beverage" is used for 30 articles, but "drink" is used for 153 articles: