Template talk:Portal/Archive 9

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Remove icons for red links. Get from Template:Portal/doc/all.

Guilherme Burn (talk) 18:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Do I understand correctly that you want to remove all entries that have images for deleted portals? Or do you want to just delete the images, leaving the red links in place? — JFG ^talk 16:49, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

I read that like delete the images. I think also the portal boxes/portal bars-with-deleted-portals probably should be removed/fixed as well, but that's an aside. --Izno (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@Izno: I agree that the portal boxes/portal bars-with-deleted-portals should be removed/fixed.

They are categorised in the tracking categories Category:Portal templates with redlinked portals and Category:Portal templates with all redlinked portals.

I have just finished a month-long process of cleaning up those categories, which between them had over 100,000 entries when they started. As of the evening of tuesday 13th, they were clear of article and content categories, but still had a few dozen project pages in them.

Clearing all the deleted portals made visible a lot of broken links, which I fixed as along the way. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:21, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done as there is (a) discussion occurring still and (b) not a sandbox version ready to be implemented. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• I agree with Guilherme Burn that these images should be removed from the list. Discussion is ongoing on the deletion of more of the depressingly large number of abandoned junk portals ... but about 4870 of 5705 portals have been deleted since February, so we are already in a position to do a big cleanout. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:25, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
• Just came here to see if there was a discussion on removing deleted portals from the module code. I'm also in favor. --Gonnym (talk) 12:36, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
• I'm going to reactivate the edit request because I believe there exists consensus here. I'm not concerned about sandbox versions; the change is trivial here and just needs someone to go through 26 pages regardless. --Izno (talk) 13:51, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I agree with Izno that this should proceed. However, I disagree about sand boxing. Given the huge number of pages using those modules, it's important to sandbox the changes to minimise the number of edits. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:38, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
    • The list posted above does have incorrect removals. I did find evidence that all of those As on User:Izno/portals were deleted (with or without the spelling listed), besides those listed with "??? HUH ???" which appear either to have had some bizarre spelling or were never created in the first place. --Izno (talk) 03:02, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
• Note: Even though this edit was not implemented, the list provided by the original edit proposer needs to be double checked. Reason being: The entires on these pages are not case-sensitive. For example, the edit proposer claims that ["American civil war"] can be removed, which is false since Portal:American Civil War exists. Steel1943 (talk) 07:12, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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at Module:Portal/images/a can you add flag of Algeria. ["algeria"] = "Flag of Algeria.svg|border|link=|alt=flag", ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk (We are the champions, my friends) 20:04, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Request declined. Portal:Algeria was deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Algeria. I have speedy-deleted its re-creation, per WP:G4. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:48, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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On line 51 change australasia to australia
This is to provide accurate images for Portal:National Basketball League (Australia) dylan.ingleby (talk) 07:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done Seems to have been an oversight when the redirect at Portal:National Basketball League (Australasia) was deleted. Cabayi (talk) 13:17, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

@Dylan.ingleby and Cabayi: Note: Portal:National Basketball League (Australia) was deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:National Basketball League (Australia). I have speedy-deleted its re-creation, per WP:G4. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:51, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@BrownHairedGirl: If you read the deletion log for Portal:National Basketball League (Australia) the original deletion was due to it being an abandoned draft originally made in 2006, with only a two-line intro, one navbox and a category listing and no updates since it was created. The revival of the Portal in September 2019 was a completely new version with no links to the previous portal and much more content (included features articles, did you knows, maps, list of the next games, standings and more). dylan.ingleby (talk) 03:59, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@Dylan.ingleby: your summary misses a lot of factors. If you want to contest the speedy deletion, please ask on my talk page, which is the proper venue for such requests. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:00, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

In which case, I've removed

	["national basketball league (australia)"] = "Basketball.png|link=|alt=",

from Module:Portal/images/n. Cabayi (talk) 06:55, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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Image File:Wall Food 10048 (15800083686).jpg was deleted from commons 21 November 2019 currently used for salad and salads portals.

Picking an image at random from commons, we could change to File:Composed salad.jpg , or File:Vegetable dish of Cuisine of Esino Lario.jpg or just remove. KylieTastic (talk) 14:13, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done, arbitrarily used File:Composed salad.jpg. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:44, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Is there a reason these group of modules are preserving (an insane amount) of entries for deleted portals? It would seem at least one editor has reverted removals of deleted portal data. --Gonnym (talk) 14:26, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

@Gonnym: That editor provided reasoning (which I don't agree with) at User talk:Steel1943/Archive 16#PLEASE. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:26, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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Change methodism image from the UMC logo (File:Logo of the United Methodist Church.svg) to File:John Wesley clipped.png as the UMC is only one of the denominations within. If too large please inform me of the dimensions it needs to be. Jerod Lycett (talk) 13:20, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jerodlycett: that image isn't really the best to use as a portal primary image as it is quite grainy, this isn't a "no" but do you have any other suggestions? — xaosflux ^Talk 16:04, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Sadly, no I don't. It's the image used at Template:WikiProject Christianity though, and looks okay there. I checked out Commons and couldn't find anything better that could be used to overall represent Methodism and have it be separate from other groups. Jerod Lycett (talk) 16:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Jerodlycett: thanks for the update, done. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:51, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

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Please replace with changes as made in Module:Portal/sandbox. And please protect Module:Portal/styles.css. This way classes can be used to apply the CSS, making it simpler to apply changes on non-desktop and other specialised layouts. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

TheDJ, I'll leave the request since it requires protection as well, but have you considered applying for template editor access? I don't think that would in any way lessens the impact of you giving up the bit and would be useful for you. Whatever you choose I respect your choice. ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 13:21, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

I have protected the style sheet, so a template editor can make the changes to the module, if they wish — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:52, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done Implemented. Any template-editor may revert if necessary, given the number of pages which may change, should there be something unexpected that crops up (though of course I would prefer correction instead :). Izno (talk) 02:27, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

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Why is the image for Portal:Wikipedia set to commons:file:X mark.svg (at Module:Portal/images/w)? Shouldn't it be changed to something like commons:file:Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg or commons:file:Wikipe-tan head.png?WanderingWanda (talk) 18:43, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

I'll change this to a formal edit request: please change the image for Wikipedia at Module:Portal/images/w from commons:file:X mark.svg to commons:file:Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg WanderingWanda (talk) 18:59, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done Izno (talk) 00:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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At the images/c page. Insert two lines between current 211 and 212 that read:

["coronavirus disease 2019"] = "File:SARS-CoV-2 (Wikimedia colors).svg|alt=virus icon",
["covid-19"] = "File:SARS-CoV-2 (Wikimedia colors).svg|alt=virus icon",

For Portal:Coronavirus disease 2019 and its alt-name redirect. Kingsif (talk) 18:50, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:57, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Pppery, remove the "File:" from "coronavirus disease 2019" and "covid-19". ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 19:03, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Fixed * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 19:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi guys, could please link the following image to the below aliases for Portal:Traditional African religion: File:Brooklyn Museum 1989.51.39 Nommo Figure with Raised Arms.jpg

Aliases

• Portal:Traditional African religions
• P:TAR

Many thanks. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 14:36, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Could anyone phease help? @Northamerica1000 and John of Reading:? Thanks. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 07:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I no longer have the "template editor" user right. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh! Okay. Thank you John. Then perhaps Northamerica1000 or @Pppery: could help? Senegambianamestudy (talk) 09:57, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

@Senegambianamestudy:  Partly done: I have added the image for the Portal:Traditional African religions alias (diff), (see right). I'm not sure offhand about the process for adding an image to a shortcut, or if this is necessary. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay. That's fine. Thanks North America. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 06:45, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

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@Senegambianamestudy: From your reply directly above, it sounds like this is good to go, so I have removed the "{{edit template-protected|Module:Portal/images/p}}" from atop and added {{edit template-protected|Module:Portal/images/p|answered=yes}} here. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

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File:Alcatel 9109HA.png was the icon for the {{portal:1990s}} link (as used for one in Template:YearInCountryPortalBox), but it has been deleted from Commons as a copyright violation. That deletion affected over a thousand pages. A suitable replacement is needed as soon as possible. - Sumanuil (talk) 21:23, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

To editor Sumanuil:  done – replaced with File:Hourglass.svg. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 00:54, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Since File:Hourglass.svg appears to be taken by WikiProject Years, it might be better to choose another image file, such as File:Early internet (cropped).png, which depicts the gaining popularity of the World Wide Web during the early part of the 90s. What do you think? P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 01:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Seems a little complex for an icon. Is there something with just a 90s-style computer, perhaps? - Sumanuil (talk) 02:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Don't understand what you mean by complex. It's just a globe, a 90s-style computer and 3 letters, WWW, for the World Wide Web. The internet became popular globally in the 90s, so the symbolism of that image seems to capture that essence in a very powerful way, doesn't it? Here's the 1990 computer used in the image. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 05:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Not sure how to explain it, but it seems too 'busy', like there's too many things in the pic for it to be 'intelligible' at an icon size. - Sumanuil (talk) 17:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay, we go with the computer then, File:EC1835 C cut.jpg. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 18:12, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

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Some of the file strings in subpages of Module:Portal/images don't have the link= parameter which makes the portal icons unclickable. Most of them do, so I take it that unclickable portal icons is the desired behaviour. At least for consistency's sake, can someone with the appropriate permissions add link= to those strings without it? For example:

["viruses"] = "Sida-aids.png|alt=icon",

["viruses"] = "Sida-aids.png|link=|alt=icon",

—guywan (talk • contribs) 20:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done Unclickable images are only permitted when the image is public domain. File:Sida-aids.png isn't. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:01, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

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Hi ile:Quran logo.png was deleted from commons 29 March 2020, as there is no actual portal can just be removed. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC) KylieTastic (talk) 14:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:55, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, from looking at Template:Portal/doc/all it appears that the majority of portals were deleted, would it not be sensible to now also tidy up the associated images and remove all non-existent portal image entries? Is there a reason to keep, or it is just a lack of a WikiGnome with the "Template editor" perm to grind through? Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

This was opposed by Buaidh at User talk:Steel1943/Archive 16#PLEASE, but I think there is still consensus for removing them, as shown at Template talk:Portal/Archive 9#Remove icons for red links, and the real reason it hasn't happened is simply that nobody cares enough. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for the answer Pppery - although even with Buaidh reason that some are used in other places, many aren't (as can be checked by image usage). However as I thought, mostly just a lack of a editor with the will and the permission. Cheers, keep safe KylieTastic (talk) 15:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

We talked about this before but apparently this are interfaced with Template:WikiProject box so project boxes need them.

Portal Astrology

WikiProject Astrology

Coronavirus disease 2019 portal

WikiProject COVID-19

--Moxy 🍁 15:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) These modules are named Module:Portal/images/xxx, so should any be used by Template:Portal and any other use should not be supported at all. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Also note that Template:WPbox and Template:WikiProject box are not the same template, and the former uses Module:Portal/images but not the latter. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

In addition to Template:Portal, the following templates use the image links from Module:Portal/images:

• Template:NBbox/1 invoked by Template:Regional notice board box
• Template:Pbox
• Template:Pbox/1 invoked Template:Pbox
• Template:Regional notice board box
• Template:WikiProject work group box
• Template:WPbox
• Template:WPbox/1 invoked Template:WPbox
• Template:Yynb
• Template:Yyp
• Template:Yytab
• Template:Yywp

Module:Portal/images was specifically set up to provide a more efficient way for Template:Portal to access images. Since these other templates also had a need to access many of these same images, it was felt that Module:Portal/images could serve as the image link source for all these templates rather than creating redundant modules for each template. I suppose we could have renamed Module:Portal/images as Module:Images/images so that users wouldn't assume that it was only for the use with Template:Portal, but a consensus felt this would generate an unnecessary amount of work. Please visit my talk page if you have any questions or suggestions. Yours aye,  Buaidh  talk contribs 23:42, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

So, does there not being consensus to rename the module mean that there isn't consensus to broaden it's scope either and I should go ahead with the original proposal to remove non-existent portals? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:11, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Clearly misunderstood the point on the module.....use by much more then just portals. Aslong as its not deleted we can do the right thing down the road later when more understand it's purpose.--Moxy 🍁 20:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

No, the requested move showed, in my mind, that there was never consensus to expand its use outside of portals. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:41, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

The problem we have is that they are used and have been for a very very long time.--Moxy 🍁 11:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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The Global Warming Portal has an icon that's a map from 2008. It matters because if you click the icon, it zooms the image instead of taking you to the portal. You can see the effect in the portal link on the right.

I can't figure out how to edit portal icons, the help docs seemed to point me towards making a request here. If so, please swap away from this:

To the newer / better: .

If I can do this myself please let me know how. Editing the global warming portal didn't seem to be the way. Thanks! Efbrazil (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC) Efbrazil (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

This was the right venue, and you couldn't have done it yourself, so  Done, but I personally think both images are too detailed to make good icons. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:43, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, File:UmaidBhawan Exterior 1.jpg used as the Jodhpur portal image was deleted from commons 05:07, 9 May 2020, Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

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Per discussion please apply either Special:Diff/946203861/960069111 (using os.date) or Special:Diff/946203861/960074141 (using expandTemplate and {{Ambox globe}}—currently in /sandbox) to Module:Portal/images/c. I'm not sure, which version is better. Test demonstrating comparison with live version can seen at Template:Portal bar/testcases § One portal. —⁠andrybak (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done using the pure-lua version, so Template:Ambox globe doesn't become used on 1 million pages. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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Please apply Special:Diff/960190336 to use Module:Yesno to check boolean parameters. —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Andrybak: please elaborate? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:55, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

MSGJ, parameters |redlinks=, |nominimum=, and |tracking= of template {{Portal}} are boolean flags. To allow all conventions of boolean template parameters to be used, check the values using Module:Yesno instead of string comparisons. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:03, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Has this been tested? Primefac (talk) 19:54, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Primefac, tests for parameter |redlinks=, tests for parameter |nominimum=. Tracking categories are disabled on /testcases page, so checking |tracking= is not practical. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 21:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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At Module:Portal/images/m, replace Flag of Mississippi.svg|border|link=|alt=flag with Coat of arms of Mississippi.svg|link=|alt= as the former file is no longer current. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:59, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done Nardog (talk) 13:01, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

{{Portal|Banks}} puts a link to Alt=icon on the symbol. I don't know where to correct this. Oh I see, it's the entry at Module:Portal/images/b, it has to be

	["banks"] = "All-currency-symbol.svg|link=|alt=icon",

--androl (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:35, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, File:Flag of Region Reunion.png was deleted from commons 1 July 2020 - and Portal:Réunion does not exist either. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:24, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, File:Bandera de Madrid.svg was deleted 30 July 2020 set as the Madrid portal that does not exist anyway so can just be removed rather than replaced. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:05, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

So, am I reading you right that you want this line

	["madrid"] = "Bandera de Madrid.svg|alt=flag",

removed from the module? Primefac (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Primefac, yes no image or portal so serves no purpose just flagged up as an error on Template:Portal/doc/all which I notice via Category:Templates with missing files. Yes it causes no problems, but if errors aren't fixed I wont notice any new ones that need addressing. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 15:57, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 16:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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This is to kindly ask for your help to set this portal image (File:Phoenician aleph.svg to the Phoenicia portal. The alt text would be: "Black on white image of the Phoenician letter Aleph". The link parameter is = the Phoenicia article. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 05:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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Add File:Rocktet icon201001.svg for Portal:Rocketry. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 09:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 11:52, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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Please update the image for hindustani to File:Hindustani.svg. Getsnoopy (talk) 21:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:29, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, File:Flag of Rivers State.png was deleted 20 February 2021 so suggest revert this change. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 10:02, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 10:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

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Change icon for portal sports to File:Sport balls.svg and maybe reduce the sports balls file size before if possible. Best regards 185.209.239.130 (talk) 20:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. The SVG seems enough larger not to implement off the bat, and I'm not quite sold on switching to the one (more noise in small size). Izno (talk) 01:33, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

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Suggestion to change Current Picture, i think it is better fitted for wikipedia > (Wikipetan-manga.png) —— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 23:15, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done, but not so sure as the word is not legible at that size — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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The file "Emblem-Punjab-Protocol-Manual-page98-appendix12.svg" has been deleted. Can some please replace it? - Sumanuil (talk) 21:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

To editor Sumanuil:  done. Replaced with File:Seal of Punjab.gif. Thank you very much for your input! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 02:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I believe the image for the Afghanistan page should be changed to the flag of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Taliban.svg

We should probably wait until they (or anyone) has established a functioning government. Then again, doing so hasn't helped Somaliland. Don't jump the gun. - Sumanuil (talk) 21:43, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. I would like to request the update of the new portal image please (also present on the portal in other languages). Change ["evangelical christianity"] = "Ichthys.svg to ["evangelical christianity"] = " ChristianitySymbolWhite.PNG. ServB1 (talk) 23:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done — xaosflux ^Talk 14:41, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Module:Portal/images/p redirects here, so I guess the request should made here. Please replace

["physics"] = "Stylised Lithium Atom.svg|alt=icon",

with

["physics"] = "Stylised atom with three Bohr model orbits and stylised nucleus.svg|alt=icon",

File moved on Commons. File:Stylised Lithium Atom.svg File:Stylised atom with three Bohr model orbits and stylised nucleus.svg. Christian75 (talk) 13:36, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 22:51, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

In 'Portal:Kent', the image used is File:Flag of Kent.svg. Could this be changed to File:FlagOfKent.svg? They both show a rampant white horse on red, but the latter is closer to the pattern which appears on the UK Flag Registry, shown in the relevant entry. Thanks. Hogweard (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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I'd like to add an image for the Go portal. A reasonable icon to use would be Coastside (talk) 07:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done User:GKFX^talk 14:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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I would like the attending editor to change the current portal image of Afghanistan (line 61-["afghanistan"] = "Flag of Afghanistan.svg|border|link=|alt=flag",) to this file. This is because Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan controls most of the country and is the current de-facto government of the country. Interesting Geek (talk) 09:00, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

To editor Interesting Geek:  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 14:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

See also: User talk:Paine Ellsworth § Re: Template edit request for extended discussion. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 09:06, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
See also: Template talk:Country data Afghanistan § RfC on main flag, open RfC as of this date. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 10:55, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Since we can see that the above RfC is apparently headed toward use of the Taliban flag, and since {{Country data Afghanistan}} has already been changed, this template should also be edited so that the taliban flag is used. So for editor Interesting Geek, this request has been granted and the edit has been  done. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 13:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. Can someone add an image to the portal bar of the newly created Portal:Clans of Scotland. I’m not sure what the image should be here are some examples.

Sahaib3005 (talk) 21:14, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:53, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

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I want to add an image for the portal of Vaishnavism, which I had created in the previous month as per the guidelines of Wikipedia. Dawnpope (talk) 04:34, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. You didn't specify what em image you want to add, so there's nothing a template editor can do. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:07, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

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I want to add the icon for Portal:Vaishnavism

(["vaishnavism"] = Vishnu.jpg Dawnpope (talk) 06:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

To editor Dawnpope:  done. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 15:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Greetings and felicitations. I just discovered that the border box is missing from this template's output, and I already miss it. I read the revision history, and understand the problem this fixes, but am wondering if there is an alternative that includes the box, at least in desktop mode. (Notification: Northamerica1000.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 08:53, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

@DocWatson42: See below for more context. Personally, I like the layout without the box; portal links in See also sections look less choppy that way on article pages, in my opinion. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:02, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Put me in the camp that would prefer the box restored. It would then be more consistent with the box around the Commons links, for example. Imzadi 1979 → 04:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't mind the box, just as long as billions of readers can still actually see portal links in articles with a boxed version. As it was previously, they couldn't. Otherwise, the encyclopedia would be moving backwards in favor of aesthetic layout, rather than providing information to readers, essentially putting blinders on them. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Moved from User talk:Mr. Stradivarius

Hi Mr. Stradivarius: I just wanted to let you know that I have upgraded Template:Portal to enable the portal links in articles to be viewable on mobile devices. The previous, Lua based version of the template simply does not display the portal links on mobile devices, which has become a significant problem. For example, way back in February 2013, Wikipedia Mobile received 3 Billion Monthly Page Views. The former Lua based incarnation of the template shortly thereafter in April 2013 had a problematic side effect of disenfranchising billions of readers from having access to portal links in articles, a major problem, because if readers don't have access to thei links, they can never choose to use them. I don't know how many monthly page views Wikipedia Mobile receives now, but it is very likely a much greater amount compared to 2013, particularly when one takes into account the ever-increasing usage and popularity of mobile devices to surf the web.

This matter has been discussed for years here and there, and going into 2022, it seems like the right thing to enable billions of readers to have access to viewable portal links, so they at least have the option to easily access portals and know that the option to do so exists.

I hope this is okay with you. Some minor parameters that exist in the Lua version don't exist in the present version, such as moving the links to the left, resizing, etc. However, it does not appear that many pages utilize these functions anyway, and compared to the gravitas of enabling billions of mobile readers to now see portal links, when before they were blinded, the latter is logically of much greater significant benefit to the encyclopedia at this time.

A question for you, would it be possible to correct the Lua version to enable the portal links in articles to be viewable in Mobile view? Thanks for all of the great work you do. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:36, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Having portals display properly on mobile sounds like a good idea to me! When I ported the template from wikitext to Lua, I basically copied the template structure exactly as it was, and didn't think about mobile at all. Improvements to the template are certainly welcome. I think it would be a good idea to merge Module:Portal and Module:Portal-inline now that Template:Portal and Template:Portal-inline use such similar syntax, but I don't have any plans to edit them myself right now. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:46, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind sentiments. Bottom line is that now, billions more readers will now see the portal links. I have no experience editing Module pages and Lua stuff, so pinging Certes here, who does. Certes may have ideas to mention here as well. Frankly, my main concern was the ongoing problem of portal links being nonexistent on mobile devices, which has been solved. It's a situation that needed to be addressed for a long time, and now it is fixed. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:05, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

On desktop, Template:Portal (example) and Template:Portal-mobile (example) look similar and seem interchangeable. Redirecting Template:Portal to Template:Portal-mobile seems reasonable and probably won't break anything. However, it might be more efficient to change Module:Portal to remove whatever hides the links on mobile, which may be one of the classes inserted at Module:Portal#L-136. Behind the scenes, Template:Portal-mobile transcludes Template:Portal-inline which invokes Module:Portal-inline which in turn calls functions from Module:Portal. There are also 6,500 direct uses of Template:Portal-inline (example). Some of them could be edited to use Template:Portal, but others do want the portal link inline rather then in a sidebar. Certes (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

The Lua version can be made to show on mobile by changing the css class name from portal to anything else, so I've changed it to portalbox in the sandbox version. See this demo. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:23, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you; that may be all we need. It adds a box around the links; does anyone have any preference about that? If the box is wanted or can be suppressed, we could release that, then either replace Template:Portal-mobile by a redirect to Template:Portal, or even bulk-replace the transclusions and TfD Portal-mobile. Certes (talk) 14:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Hang on: that raises a more general question. Why does class=portal hide content on mobile at all? Where else is it used? Should we simply change the css to stop hiding class=portal items on mobile? Certes (talk) 14:32, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I think it's something the devs did to mobile version to hide certain content. I think they also hide the navbox class as well. The portal styles as set at Module:Portal/styles.css and the sandbox version at Module:Portal/sandbox/styles.css, to which I've also added the float:right. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

To add, rather than just been hidden, it's actually not sent over to the mobile version at all. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, class=navbox also prevents appearance on mobile. As well as navboxes, that hides other portal features such as lists of other selected articles, and we've discussed creating a Navbox-mobile template to work around that. Does class=portal apply to anything other than these lists of links to related portals? The change to Module:Portal/styles.css should solve our current problem, but I'm concerned about what might break elsewhere. Certes (talk) 15:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Module:Portal/styles.css is only referenced from 5 pages, so should be safe to update the class. -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:58, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

See also WT:WikiProject Portals#Important update. Certes (talk) 16:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Done, but I'm still accustomed to seeing not only portal templates, but also other, similar templates (e.g., Wiki sister projects) set off from the rest of the article by a border. The border draws attention to the template. I reiterate: is there a way to have both a border and make the link(s) available to mobile users? —DocWatson42 (talk) 07:02, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Also, the removal of the box now causes the template not to stack properly (in desktop mode) with infoboxes, and presumably other, similar, constructs. See My Side of the Mountain and compare it to the Internet Archive copy. —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:32, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Part of the problem with the instance noted directly above is that the portal link was placed directly below the infobox, where portals are not typically placed (perm link). I have since corrected this (diff). The portal links stack fine elsewhere in articles, such as in See also sections. However, thanks for bring this up, because Module developers may be able to fix this, whereby when a portal link is placed right below an infobox or other types of boxes, it is automatically placed below that content. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

I've switched things back to use the Lua module but with the upsated css class name. So the surrounding box is back. -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:58, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

North America: "However, thanks for bring this up": You're welcome. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 02:25, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Per recent work performed by WOSlinker (diff), the box is back in place, and portal links are appearing in mobile view (example link; scroll down to the See also section). Looking good! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Thank you! I wish all similar changes were this quick and (apparently) easy. —DocWatson42 (talk) 02:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

The change has triggered a fair amount of clean-up, but much of it should have been done earlier when portals were deleted anyway. Certes (talk) 02:51, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Yup. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:25, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to add two entry points to Module:Portal, in order to reduce code duplication over in Module:Portal bar:

1. p._checkTracking(), which will be the AND of checkTrackingNamespace() and checkTrackingPagename()
2. p._processPortalArgs(), which will wrap processPortalArgs()

Any objections before I do this? It should not change the behavior of either {{Portal}} or {{Portal bar}}. — hike395 (talk) 02:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Later --- I did some code cleanup on the functions in question, also. Code waiting at Module:Portal bar/sandbox, ready to be deployed. — hike395 (talk) 21:47, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done copied from sandbox: tests look good. Let me know if anyone sees anything unusual. — hike395 (talk) 23:48, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Add ["tornadoes"] = "File:EF4DaltonMNtornadoJuly2020.png|link=|alt=", to Module:Portal/images/t. Noah^Talk 03:52, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Would that image still be clear at the low resolution available in portal icons? Mockup: Tornadoes portal. Certes (talk) 12:53, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

@Certes: would probably be better. Not exactly easy to find a clear tornado, but I think this is about the best one we can get. Noah^Talk 13:28, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah and Certes:  Done (diff). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 14:16, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

When I did the refactoring work, above, I noticed some problems in the tracking and error handling of {{Portal}} and {{Portal-inline}}:

1. Tracking was off by default (which wasn't intended, I believe)
2. When only non-existent portals are given, {{Portal}} returns a tiny little box.
3. When {{Portal-inline}} was given two portals, the result was both an error message and a single portal, which looks very odd.

Given these issues, I took the opportunity to fix, clean up, and refactor the exception handling code in Module:Portal/sandbox. All of the exception logic is now centralized in p._checkPortals(), which does two things:

1. Determines whether too few or too many portal arguments have been provided
2. Find which arguments correspond to existing portals, and filters out the non-existent ones (depending on args.redlinks)

The function returns a (possibly) filtered list of portals, a (possible) tracking category, and a (possible) error message.

The code over in Module:Portal-inline/sandbox and Module:Portal bar/sandbox is now even simpler (less than 100 lines each), and is about how to display results.

You can see the effect of the code changes in Template:Portal/testcases, Template:Portal-inline/testcases, and Template:Portal bar/testcases. The behavior of the main template is unchanged: only the exceptional/error cases have changed.

Any comments or feedback before we make this go live? I'm about to go on Wikibreak until after Jan 1. A code review would be appreciated: feel free to edit the sandboxes to fix any bugs or make improvements.

Thanks for your attention! — hike395 (talk) 03:38, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for carrying out this work. I haven't analysed the code changes in detail but this looks like a very handy improvement. I've recently fixed all articles I could find which attempted to link deleted or mistyped portals, but getting the tracking sorted out would be helpful in finishing the job. Certes (talk) 13:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done I moved the sandbox versions of Module:Portal, Module:Portal-inline, and Module:Portal bar up to their respective main versions. Please let me know if anyone finds anything anomalous. @Certes: there were only 2 pages with broken portal links (now fixed), so I think you did a great job in the cleanup.

The sandbox handling in all of these modules is fragile: I should go back and fix that. — hike395 (talk) 14:21, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

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• Module:Portal/images/e

Change file:Cartography of Europe.svg to file:Cartography of Europe (blue).svg
Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 21:42, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Reason? P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 23:23, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: The current green file has been turned to blue twice on Commons (since it represents Europe in cultural and political terms), but it's used in geographical projects too, so they restored the green version, while projects referred to Europe in cultural and/or political terms preferred the blue version, and that's the case of this project, so we made two distinct versions, keeping the green one for the geographical context. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 01:01, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@Est. 2021: I see you have changed Portal:European military history. Are you requesting a change to its icon in Module:Portal/images/e? (Its talk page redirects here.) Certes (talk) 01:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@Certes: Yes, correct. Sorry for my bad wording. Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 01:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 20:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm proposing redirecting Template:Portal-mobile to this template. Please feel free to join in the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 February 12#Template:Portal-mobile. — hike395 (talk) 18:13, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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For this Portal : [ "normandie" ] . Now, the image is Drapeau de la Basse-Normandie.svg . The image should be Flag of Normandie.svg (better quality image, and the image generally use in Wikipedia for the Normandy flag) Oedipe23 (talk) 06:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 11:05, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, can someone replace the following?

• File:Emblem of the United States Navy.png → File:Emblem of the United States Navy.svg
• File:Military service mark of the United States Army.png → File:Mark of the United States Army.svg

Jay Coop · Talk · Contributions 09:14, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

This request applies to Module:Portal/images/u. (Its talk page redirects here.) Certes (talk) 10:50, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done Terasail^[✉️] 11:17, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

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Led Zeppelin is currently set to use File:Zoso-square-layout.svg that was deleted from commons 31 December 2021. No one appears to be using this so it could just be removed, or use File:Hindenburg burning.jpg which is the image currently used on Template:WikiProject Led Zeppelin. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:35, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

The selected image needs to appear as a small icon: . Would it be clearer to choose one of the other three members' corresponding symbols: ? I'd recommend Zoso Robert Plant feather symbol.svg as it's unambiguous. Certes (talk) 12:15, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• Fine by me KylieTastic (talk) 17:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

I just realised that the portal itself has been deleted, so that line of the module isn't in use. The entry could be left alone along with the other deleted portals, or removed if it's messing up any reports (Template:Portal/doc/all?). Certes (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

• Yup as I said in the original report I can't see any uses, but it is used indirectly in the listing on Wikipedia:Userboxes/WikiProjects/Entertainers and Wikipedia:Userboxes/WikiProjects/alphabetical/16, but that is the total of the three uses I can see (including Template:Portal/doc/all). KylieTastic (talk) 20:16, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done – File:Zoso Robert Plant feather symbol.svg replaced the deleted image. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 17:22, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Icons should not appear in the Media Viewer. This can be achieved by assigning them to the class "noviewer" (class=noviewer). (See: Template talk:Icon/Archive 1#Appearance in the Media Viewer) --Nachtbold (talk) 22:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

As far as I know, all icons used portal links are already marked "noviewer". Can you provide an example where Media Viewer is popping up? — hike395 (talk) 02:58, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

I have been trying to get the box displayed to the left, using |left=yes, but it still appears on the right. Is there a problem with the module or is the documentation incorrect? Keith D (talk) 16:28, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

@Keith D:  Fixed --- There was a bug in the CSS introduced at the end of 2021, now fixed. Sorry for the delay. — hike395 (talk) 03:32, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Hike395: Many thanks. Keith D (talk) 12:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)