Talk:Wing warping

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I can't find any information on this company. I can find references to www.cadestech.com which is an Indian engineering company that does some aerospace design, but nothing obvious in connection with wing morphing or NASA. There is also a French finace company called CADES. -- Solipsist 15:07, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... I think the Indian engineering company is a possibility, but it's not located in Europe. Since it's unverifiable, I'll remove the text, since by leaving it in and fixing it, I effectively took responsibility for it. --Deathphoenix 15:26, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Following was removed: It was ussually done by pulling the braces or struts in opposing corners. Say that each of your wings is attached to the side of the fuselage by two braces, one near the front of the wing (e.g. attached to the bottom of the front spar) and one near the back of the wing (e.g. attached to the bottom of the aft spar). If you want to bank left, you can pull the brace near the front of the left wing (making the left wing twist its front down and its back up, making less lift) and the brace near the back of the right wing (making the right wing twist its back down and its front up, making more lift). And vice versa for banking right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.167.237 (talk) 08:25, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have read the patent for this very patiently, and with a sincere effort to understand it - I honestly believe that I have got the general gist, and that the Montgomery patent, interesting as it is, does not actually describe "wing warping" in the sense of this article. The "extra sources" do not, to be honest, look awfully reliable either, among other things, they reek of "special pleading".

A properly researched description of Montgomery's method of achieving lateral control may well prove an interesting article in its own right - or be compared with wing-warping, ailerons, and other methods (successful and otherwise) to achieve lateral (roll) stability/control, in a more general article - called perhaps Lateral Control (aircraft) or something like that.

In the meantime - it's a simple matter of relevance. This article is very specifically about a method of lateral control that was very clearly invented by the Wright Brothers, and (incidentally) was very soon superseded. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 03:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a look at Zanonia's edit to the aileron article - these seem to be altogether more apt and relevant (in context). --Soundofmusicals (talk) 04:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure that no one would argue for a complete list of aeroplanes between 1903 and 1915 that used wing-warping for lateral control - it would obviously overwhelm the article. We probably have about enough examples now - but any additions really need to be quite distinctive - given that the early Fokker monoplanes ALL had wing warping (for instance) we probably don't need to mention more than one of them in a "representative" list, if you can see my point. For the moment I have simply trimmed the list of this kind of duplication - eventually we might have a different kind of list altogether, still thinking about this one.

Another edit - this time a straight reversion of an accurate and patently "good faith" insertion, also deserves an explanation. We are talking about wing-warping here. Any mention of related topics, such as ailerons, needs to be reasonably relevant. It is quite true that the ailerons fitted to some of the early Antoinettes were aerodynamically quite horrific - they were attached to the most flexible part (the trailing edge) of a very flexible wing, and on top of that were pretty flexible themselves! One could go into exactly why this is unlikely to provide predictable lateral control, (read Wheeler, if you can get hold of a copy) but this kind of thing obviously belongs (if anywhere) in an article about ailerons, or perhaps one about lateral control in in general. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 15:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will be working on this article for a school project and I found some sources that will be helpful

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/morphing-wings/

http://news.mit.edu/2016/morphing-airplane-wing-design-1103

https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/wright-brothers/online/fly/1899/breakthrough.cfm

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/soro.2016.0032

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2007-1707

Akhargis1 (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2018 (UTC)Akhargis1[reply]

It seems like you have a lot of good information so far in your article. You also have a lot of sources which can be helpful for readers. When reading what you have written so far, it seems to be a little confusing but that might just be because you're adding to an existing article? It looks like you truly read through multiple articles to get a general understanding for yourself so you don't accidentally plagiarize. Overall, I think you have a pretty good neutral understanding of your topic!