Talk:Windows Media

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I think this article deserves a general rewrite. Windows Media is a brand. It would make sense to describe its origins and history (born out of NetShow), and the components that comprise it. The current article is fairly inconsistent - it talks about playlists, HD Photo, DVR-MS, SAMI, etc. While many of these technologies are associated with Windows Media, none of them actually fall under the Windows Media brand. Furthermore, it seems incorrect to say WM is intended for Microsoft Windows when it's been supported on Mac OS, Zune, Xbox and other platforms over the years.

Here's what I would suggest as the WM component list:

• Codecs
• File format (ASF)
• Network protocols (MMS, WMS HTTP, WMS RTSP)
• SDKs and tools (e.g. WM Format SDK)
• Encoder (e.g. WME9)
• DRM (e.g. WM DRM 10)
• Server (WMS)
• Player (WMP)

• No mention of Windows Media SDK?

• did we forget to use our signature?--Dagibit 03:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I was told that at-least wma was dead since its release because occasional files would download viruses instead of licence information. I my self have infected my computer from running wma files. Why is this not mentioned here?--Dagibit 03:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Perhaps because this is an article on Windows Media and not the actual file format? Unless you meant windows media when you typed "wma". If you want to whine about the wma format, do it on that article's talk page.--Younmm23 23:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted WMF from the list of formas because:

• It was neither wikilinked nor sourced.
• .WMF is the extension of Windows Metafile, a vector image type that can be opened by Windows XP and Adobe Illustrator as an image. Wikipedia Commons contains a number of such images.
• Microsoft website does not confirm WMF as a specific media format. As a matter of fact it confirms Windows Metafile.
• Wikipedia website does not confirm WMF as a specific media format. Windows Media Format redirects back this very same article!

Fleet Command (talk) 16:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This Wiki is IMHO not complete or correct in that the term "Windows Media" was the group name, as mentioned above it is a BRAND. At Microsoft, that created the items listed here, but that aspect of the word "Windows Media" should also include the ORIGINAL use, (that was the foot note on many peoples pay check "Windows Media Group") and this should be noted here. As mentioned briefly in the Netshow page refs, the Windows media group evolved out of the Netshow program. I will source this as time allows, but I am posing the QUESTION for other editors, after the prior unproductive interactions in the closed thread below. WPPilot talk 02:31, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I say no. It does not have due weight. This page should be converted to a set index article, its unreferenced contents deleted. I am going ahead and adding Windows Media Station to it for now, until someone nominate it for deletion. Fleet Command (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FleetCommand, why is it that you have a history of following around Codename Lisa (have you ever seen the movie Ground Hog Day?). Your profile says retired, unless Codename Lisa needs "backup" then from the wood works, here you are, like a tag team partner.talk→ WPPilot  14:16, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have been contributing to this area of Wikipedia since 2006 and have a post right above this threat which predates your sign up. I have written texts that have become Wikipedia policy! If anyone has to ask for permission from anyone, it is you and Codename Lisa who must ask for my permission. I don't watch movies but have certainly read Wikipedia:All socks! It is obviously your tactic to resort to accusations whenever you see the slightest opposition, be it my outright disagreement or Codename Lisa's conditional agreement. We're not your slaves and you can't accept it.

My answer stands. If you don't like "no" for an answer, don't ask the question in the first place, pilot boy. Fleet Command (talk) 22:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking for input, a simple no is not worthy of being considered as an answer and frankly I don't care, I retired from the computer business years ago, and you clearly know everything about them now, and from the past. Enjoy your tech pages. Its not worth my time. Cheers! talk→ WPPilot  03:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:WPPilot, For the uninitiated here, what do you want done? Is this a requested move? CombatWombat42 (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The edits that I was attempting to do here were

• 1) Add the Windows Media Directory to the page.
• 2) More importantly, include Windows Media Group, as the group that created the program. As you see at the top of this page a user (IP) mentions that the term Windows Media is a BRAND, I was suggesting that we also include the fact that the term "Windows Media" could also include the members of the Windows Media Group, at Microsoft, that created these tools.

My suggestion of the addition of the www.windowsmedia.com history, was due to the fact that this actually evolved from the original Netshow player. The player had a "guide" tab, and when the MS marketing guru's changed it to Windows Media the guide became its own page. I do have from that period of time a great deal of personal experience. My objective was to include these facts on the page, nothing more...talk→ WPPilot  22:14, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So far so good. They can be included, if they have significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:43, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So you want to inclue Windows Media Directory how? I did a quick google search on "Windows Media Group" and all it comes up with is stuff about group policy, do you have a link to it? I'm sorry, I think I'm not understanding you, can you link the diff's where you did it/got it reverted? CombatWombat42 (talk) 16:22, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Although he does have an edit in the article (Special:Diff/601510269/prev), it isn't about "the addition of the www.windowsmedia.com history". (Boldface emphasis is mine.) That's why I requested significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. (If you want to discuss that certain edit, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard § Windows Media.)

Just a heads up: If you are in the same region as mine, you might receive a 404 error. (Microsoft websites are region-sensitive; they do IP fingerprinting.) Go to entertainment.msn.com/windowsmediaguide/ instead. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

-- WPPilottalk -- 02:28, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]