Talk:Super Hydlide
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[edit]I'm sure this game came out in 1989, not 1990.76.226.99.243 (talk) 03:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Requested move 12 June 2015
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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Hydlide 3 → Super Hydlide – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The article was originally at this title, which is the only title the game is known by outside of Japan, but in December 2011 an editor moved the article to Hydlide 3, a title which was only used for certain versions of the game in Japan. The editor who moved the page has apparently since left Wikipedia, and though I've read over his rationale for the move several times I can't make much sense of it. He seems to be suggesting that the game was most commonly released as Hydlide 3 in English-speaking countries, but the fact is it was never released under that title in any country but Japan. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 15:23, 22 June 2015 (UTC) Martin IIIa (talk) 18:48, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Do not move- My understanding is that Hydlide 3: The Space Memories was the original title of the 1987 computer game and the 1989 Famicom port, while Super Hydlide was the title of the 1989/1990 MegaDrive-Genesis port. Both sources in the article refer to it as "Hydlide 3", which appears to be the "most common name" for the majority (and original) releases of this game. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:59, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, one of the two sources refers to both Hydlide 3 and Super Hydlide - as one would expect, since it's a retrospective on the Hydlide series. The other source only makes a passing mention of the game. Besides, judging which name is most common based on two sources is absurd; if those were the only two sources which referred to the game, it would clearly fail WP:NOTABILITY requirements. Running the names through a search engine yields 8,500 results for Super Hydlide and only 4,300 results for Hydlide 3. And as stated in WP:COMMONNAME, which is the "original" title of the game is irrelevant.--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Move to Super Hydlide and expand; I have found copied of 5 additional reviws for Super Hydlide, and believe the Genesis/MD version is the "primary version" in regards to this subject. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 15:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, one of the two sources refers to both Hydlide 3 and Super Hydlide - as one would expect, since it's a retrospective on the Hydlide series. The other source only makes a passing mention of the game. Besides, judging which name is most common based on two sources is absurd; if those were the only two sources which referred to the game, it would clearly fail WP:NOTABILITY requirements. Running the names through a search engine yields 8,500 results for Super Hydlide and only 4,300 results for Hydlide 3. And as stated in WP:COMMONNAME, which is the "original" title of the game is irrelevant.--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- (Move to Super Hydlide, then...) Merge to Hydlide. So it appears that the bigger issue here is that this game has very little sourcing. A video game reliable sources custom Google search revealed nothing more than passing mentions. If someone can retrieve the print sources mentioned at Moby, that could help settle the name dispute (and clarify Super from 3), but even with that, there may not be enough for an article. Merge the currently sourced info to the main game/series's page and build it out summary style. Redirect both Super Hydlide and Hydlide 3. – czar 13:20, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I've found all but one of these reviews and have added them in the references section. Thanks for pointing me towards them! ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:10, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- Nice work! Do we have any sources that verify the connection between Hydlide 3 and Super Hydlide? If not, this article appears to be best known as "Super Hydlide" in English, even if the rest of the reference text is in another language... This all said, I'm still in favor of merge—the references, now linked, can be expanded in the parent article and the whole thing can spin out summary style in time. – czar 16:52, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure all the reviews call it Super Hydlide because they reviewed the GenMD version, and that's what that version is titled. There may be reviews of the other versions of this game (who would call it Hydlide 3), I suppose. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 17:08, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- Nice work! Do we have any sources that verify the connection between Hydlide 3 and Super Hydlide? If not, this article appears to be best known as "Super Hydlide" in English, even if the rest of the reference text is in another language... This all said, I'm still in favor of merge—the references, now linked, can be expanded in the parent article and the whole thing can spin out summary style in time. – czar 16:52, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Jenks24, I think we have consensus for the move now – czar 16:54, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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