Talk:Stellantis Europe

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On 4 November 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from FCA Italy to Stellantis Italy. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Ridwan97, I noticed you had just renamed the article. Just curious, is there any reliable source that proves Stellantis Italy S.p.A. actually exists, or this is merely an assumption? A social media page may suffice. I can't find anything about it in Stellantis website or any news about it. Andra Febrian (talk) 03:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Andra Febrian: As I know from their social media accounts which known as "Stellantis Italy".Ridwan97 (talk) 03:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Andra Febrian: FCA Italy has not been renamed to Stellantis Italy. See today's press release on Stellantis' official web site, which specifically mentions FCA Italy. 79.17.215.38 (talk) 08:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Ridwan97: Is there any chance to rename this article back to FCA Italy? Andra Febrian (talk) 13:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Andra Febrian: Just do it until the company officially renamed Stellantis Italy. Thanks for your attention. Ridwan97 (talk) 13:31, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ridwan97 and Andra Febrian: The article should moved back and the text should go back to time, bevor Ridwan97 began to chance. The company hasn't chanced its name, its always named as FCA Italy S.p.A., as you look in the (official) italian company register. I did it (24 February 2021), you can read there:

FCA ITALY S.P.A., IN FORMA ESTESA FIAT CHRYSLER AUTOMOBILES ITALY S.P.A., E IN FORMA ABBREVIATA FIAT GROUP AUTOMOBILES S.P.A. E FIAT AUTO S.P.A. / Codice Fiscale 07973780013

And if you pay like me you can find:

Elenco dei soci e degli altri titolari di diritti su azioni o quote sociali al 05/02/2021
pratica con atto del 17/01/2021 Data deposito: 05/02/2021
                                Data protocollo: 05/02/2021
                                Numero protocollo: TO-2021-18090
capitale sociale                Capitale sociale dichiarato sul modello con cui è stato depositato l'elenco dei soci:
                                850.000.000,00 Euro
Proprieta'                      Quota composta da: 850.000.000 azioni ordinarie
                                pari a nominali: 850.000.000,00 Euro
STELLANTIS N.V.                 Codice fiscale: 97784450013
                                Cittadinanza: paesi bassi
                                Tipo di diritto: proprieta

194.166.199.118 (talk) 15:23, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agreed. Someone changed it without consensus. And we haven't even talked about numerous other subsidiaries that gets renamed in Wikipedia, but in reality they weren't renamed, a violation WP:CRYSTALBALL.

These are the articles that its titles should be reverted since it was renamed without consensus or any sources that said the company has been renamed. However, renaming back to old name is rather tedious as we need to request admins to delete the old redirect, so this will take a while. To be honest, the tedious work is why I haven't taken action.

• Stellantis France
• Stellantis Canada
• Stellantis Ireland
• Stellantis Poland
• Stellantis Trnava Plant
• Stellantis Serbia
• Stellantis Mangualde Plant
• Stellantis Mulhouse Plant
• Stellantis Poissy Plant
• Stellantis Rennes Plant
• Stellantis Sochaux Plant
• Stellantis Vigo Plant

Any help would be appreciated. Andra Febrian (talk) 15:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yep, your are prompt. :-) I have answered at the other talk.

Consequently we should have to rename all other Articels of Companies and Plants of FCA/PSA now Stellantis to Stellantis xzy like Stellantis Germany, Stellantis Austria, etc. and Stellantis Rüsselsheim Plant, Stellantis Eisenach Plant, Stellantis Wien Plant, etc., so on with Vauxhall/Luton&more, Hungary etc. (NO!, it's only joke.)

@Ridwan97 and CCCC10: See here above, see Talk:Stellantis#Manufacturer parameter in the infobox for Stellantis vehicles. 194.166.199.118 (talk) 16:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you're trying to blame me, no sir, I don't think I was the "prompt". Andra Febrian (talk) 09:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, oh, oh. Sorry, Andra Febrian, for the misunderstanding, as I probably triggered it. There's nothing to blame you. With prompt I meant that you very quick with your answers. In the whole matter you are right in everything you write, so we completely agree. All good. See also my answer at talk Stellantis. (BTW: I'm not a sir.)

My joke suggestions were directed towards the two users @Ridwan97 and CCCC10. 194.166.199.118 (talk) 17:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• media.stellantis.com "FCA Italy S.p.A. (hereinafter "FCA Italy")". there is no mention of "Stellantis Italy" nor even "Stellantis". YBSOne (talk) 14:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] See this press release dated April 7th: "Stellantis, with its subsidiary FCA Italy S.p.A., and Israel Innovation Authority announce the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding" ... "FCA Italy [“FCA”] is a wholly owned subsidiary of Stellantis N.V., one of the world’s leading automakers that designs, develops, manufactures, distributes, and sells vehicles and mobility solutions around the world and also a mobility provider guided by a clear vision to offer freedom of movement with distinctive, affordable and reliable mobility solutions." ... "FCA Italy S.p.A. who formally signed the agreement, is a key subsidiary of Stellantis N.V., a global company of 400,000 employees and with a rich heritage stretching back 125 years, home to a full portfolio of storied and iconic automotive brands (Jeep, Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Fiat, Ram, Opel, Peugeot, Citroën among them) that have graced the road and conquered the podium in the world of motorsport as well as innovative mobility brands." 95.249.246.159 (talk) 10:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Stellantis Europe has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 4 § Stellantis Europe until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]