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Soyotes or Soyons are alternate names, as per Tatars#Abakan_Tatars.--Imz 14:28, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

... one could find in Ossendowski's book Beasts, Men and GodsFerdynand Antoni Ossendowski

and i need any language code of the Soyot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.26.235.66 (talk) 10:02, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Using the Buryat language does not mean that they are Mongols or Buryats. The same as in China, the use of the Chinese language by the Mongols or the transition of some Mongols to the Chinese language does not mean that they became Chinese. And the one who introduced these categories is biased, but most of them act in Ruviks, where he has a lot of them, including the people Afshars whom he also includes in the category of Mongolian peoples only on the basis of the fact that some of them once knew the Mongolian language. And assigning categories on this basis looks like pan-Mongolism. 46.211.169.9 (talk) 08:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed ethnic identity is more complex than the language spoken. But it also more complex than genetic heritage or any other simple factor. It is entirely possible for a people to belong to two larger ethnic groups; in this case Soyot are Samoyedic, Turkic and Mongolic.

If you know the history of the Soyot you'd know that we're descendants of Samoyedic people who migrated to the Sayan and consequentely assimilated into the local existing cultures, that includes both Turkic and Mongolic cultures. If you're so sure to deny the Mongolic part of our cultural identity, then you should also campaign to remove the Turkic part.

Also if you're slinging around delusional accusations that can easily be falsified, you're not going to gain support, or even make people attempt to take you seriously. Kardoen (talk) 10:06, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

there is no need to speak on their behalf, misleading the participants, falsely introducing yourself as one of them, in order to create a sense of trust in your words. And besides, where are the sources that they are Buryats and Mongols? 46.211.172.57 (talk) 12:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of whose behalf? Needlessly accusing others of being a sock-puppet does not make your point of view more right. It just makes you a twat. If you can't behave in a reasonable manner the discission is over. Kardoen (talk) 13:06, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Provide links that immediately open to reliable, unbiased sources, including indicating pages to read so that everyone can see that they are Buryats, Mongols, according to the categories that you want to contribute and return. First, sources for discussion on the discussion page and then after discussion and agreement in the text of the article, because there is an incorrect interpretation of the source or there is no such concept in the source at all46.211.153.228 (talk) 15:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]