Talk:Shu Han

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Would it be better to have both traditional and simplified chinese characters here? -aZn_KiNg28

JEW Han, amirite??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Friedchikinz (talk • contribs) 19:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The most accurate source of Three Kingdoms era is the biographies written before the romance. Liu Bei wasn't a peasant, neither a nobleman. His rank as "uncle" of the emperor is really distant and in fact he lived in poverty. Until today he is adored as the Protector of the Shoemakers and in the history he even weave a hat to give to Zhuge Liang. Artcorve (talk) 05:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, and Huang Zhong. Each of these men came from either a state of poor or from another warlord. Althought there were other generals in Shu that displayed their own skill, none(or some) could be compared to the might, courage, boldness, and devotion that these men gave.

1.) Guan Yu slays Hua Xiong at the Sishui Pass. Later, he slays Yan Liang and Wen Chou at Guandu while under Cao Cao's service.

2.) Zhang Fei establishes himself not only as rearguard of Liu Bei at ChangBan but through various tasks while his sworn brother took over the Province of Jing and Yi.

3.) Zhao Yun saves the child of Liu Bei at ChangBan during Liu Bei's flee from Cao Cao and his relentless skill showed on the battle field.

4.) Ma Chao earned his rank with his valor known throughout the north and he was quoted once saying, "Ma Chao has the courage of the likes of Lu Bu and Han Xin but, he also has the heart of the Qiangs and the Huns." A quote from Cao Cao

5.) Huang Zhong may have been old in his age but he shows that even old aged men can still beat down even the toughest opponents such as Xiahou Yuan at Mount Dingjun. --Zhang Liao 22:35, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Too bias. Can't be used. You put them in a category that makes them sound 'from pauper to giant.' Zhang Fei and Guan Yu are the best examples, but they had many many years of fame before they gained any status of the rumored 'five tiger generals.' Don't use so much praise. Try this. I'm going to try to avoid facts since I don't have much source aside from the book itself, so someone can fill in 'event details' at thier own choice.

1) Guan Yu was general and famed figure under Liu Bei since the Turban campaigns. He was later named protector of eastern border of the Shu empire.

2) Zhang Fei was another general who had followed Liu Bei and Guan Yu since the Turban campaigns. He had gained fame while following the army.

3) Zhou Yun served Gonsun Zan for years until after his lord's defeat. He escaped capture and joined Liu Bei.

4) Ma Chao, son of Ma Teng, governor of the Xilang region. Escaped after the death of his father and the rout of his armies. Known to wear illustrious armor.

5) Huang Zhong, older general who served previously under (Jingzhou protector. Name has lost me.) Became a future vangaurd general.

How many "important" people do you think should be listed for a state that lasted 42 years? --Nlu (talk) 05:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, okay, heres what I will do than i will edit the list to what i think are the more important people meaning i will add some and delets some from the current list, if you disagree fell free to intrude, but I think I got it under control. Hardworker111 10:19, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The current list of 'notable figures' happens to coincide exactly with Dynasty Warriors characters; however, Guan Ping and Huang Yueying were not important figures in Shu's history. Ping's SGZ biography is non-existent (his mention is primarily in Guan Yu's bio). I'm sure civil administrators like Jiang Wan or Dong Yun might warrant consideration over these two (among others I'm surely forgetting). Redmac54 (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way someone can bring it back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.21.187.93 (talk) 03:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

judging from the map theres also a part of laos. do i need an explicit source or may i edit? EnTerbury (talk) 09:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's better to have an explicit source since mapping ancient states can be tricky. _dk (talk) 18:32, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]