Talk:Shaykh Tusi

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Can improvement be made to the text regarding non-translated symbols in ASCII? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.234.248 (talk) 06:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:HyperGaruda, DeCausa, Human10.0 and Toddy1 are hereby invited to take a look at my most recent edit which seems to have been reverted. Seeing that Mehdi ghaed has reverted me without providing any reason in the edit summary. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

you have to mention why delete my edtion not me. i think your reason are not sufficient and necessary.--m,sharaf (talk) 16:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ m,sharaf that is precisely the reason I have invited other editors to this debate. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 16:33, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

you speedy both removed my edition and removed other information in Article. it is not fairness. at least you have to alarm me to solve the problem if there were any problem.--m,sharaf (talk) 16:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have identified the CopyVio source and removed the section accordingly. Please be aware that adding copy-pasted material to Wikipedia is copyright infringement, which should be removed as soon as possible. - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:06, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FreeatlastChitchat: What you are attempting to do, is the right thing to do. What I do not understand, is why you did not write a few lines on this talk page explaining your edit. If you had done this at the same time as making the edit at 8:31, 16 December 2015, you would have made everyone's life easier. (Especially your own.)

I am a bit confused about the extent of copying from Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition.

• Were all the paragraphs deleted by FreeatlastChitchat at 08:31, 16 December 2015 stolen from Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition?
• Or was the copyright theft limited to the paragraphs deleted by HyperGaruda at 18:04, 16 December 2015?

-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:48, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The copyvio was limited to what I had deleted. Brill's encyclopedic language is characterised by the many diacritics used in transliterating from Arabic (e.g. ʿarabī), so it's not difficult to see what is theirs. The rest seems to be cleanup of unsourced content and fixing faulty English ("plain old gibberish" if I'm correct). Although it is mentioned -in a way- in the edit summary, a bit more specificity and less metaphors could have made it easier to understand for some. - HyperGaruda (talk) 22:42, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ Toddy1 My edit removed four things.

1. Direct copypaste/theft of Brill which comes under copyvio and it was the most seriuos problem
2. Nonsensical phrases, which were just not understandable.
3. Peacock terms and other value laden phrases
4. Unsourced content.

FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 03:06, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://referenceworks.brillonline.com/entries/encyclopaedia-of-islam-2/al-tusi-SIM_7653. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

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@FreeatlastChitchat and HyperGaruda:. i add one part by the name "establishment of Najaf Hawzeh. but you delete this part along with other parts. whilst your reason according to wikipedia is not relevant. this part also has valid reference.--m,sharaf (talk) 09:54, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sa.vakilian and Mhhossein:. I want to demand you to complete the article as it is did in the Shaykh Al Mofid. Aslo i try to propose a new construction for article.--m,sharaf (talk) 20:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

m,sharaf: Good suggestion. I think Many references used in Shaykh al-Mufid can be used here, too. Mhhossein (talk) 06:19, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]