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Article milestones Date Process Result February 10, 2010 Peer review Reviewed August 17, 2010 Good article nominee Listed November 6, 2020 Good article reassessment Kept March 1, 2023 Good article reassessment Kept Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on August 28, 2022, and August 28, 2023. Current status: Good article

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We say that it is also called the 105 Building, but the sources for this don't appear to be strong, and some of them might be circular sourcing. The sources note that it is also called the 105 Building, but they call it the Ryugyong Hotel. Who actually calls it the 105 Building?--Jack Upland (talk) 09:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jack Upland: This was brought up in the 1st talk page archive in 2008, and removed for a while. It also doesn't actually have 105 floors or even 100. B137 (talk) 05:35, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed "105 Building" again.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:08, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Ryugyong Hotel/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Citation needed content for almost a whole paragraph, undoubtly not "verifiable". If this were a GA nomination, it will fail immediately. If there are any sources that could help supporting or re-writing the paragraph involved, then everything will be great. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 07:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which paragraph are you talking about???--Jack Upland (talk) 08:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jack Upland: Architecture, starting from "making it the most prominent feature of Pyongyang's skyline and by far the tallest structure in North Korea" to "and is situated number 12 in the world for the most floors". Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 09:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jack Upland and Sanmosa: How is this progressing? AIRcorn (talk) 22:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Nobody has ever added any sources for the paragraph involved. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 00:14, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Added some sources and removed some others. Seems a shame to lose its status. AIRcorn (talk) 09:12, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  @Aircorn: Noted. The GAR may end with the result of continue listing. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 06:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• It looks like no unreferenced content remains in the formerly problematic paragraph. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:13, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In any of the pre glass facade concrete photos, it's obvious that it only have 80 or 90 floors, not 100 or more. It's a very wide low angle pyramid and there may be some staggered levels, or basement floors as one photo shows a sloped grade at the bottom. B137 (talk) 21:22, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The under construction photos of it's shell before glass facade show it has about 80 floors plus the 3 basement levels. The 105 number (+3b) is a simple extrapolation of it's 1,080 ft height divided by a generic 10ft/floor standard that mostly mid rise buildings loosely adhere to, giving it a marketing storey of 105 plus 3b. B137 (talk) 05:31, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any sources on this?--Jack Upland (talk) 01:14, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jack Upland: It be have 80 count layers of holes in the 2005 era pics of the concrete shell with no facade. Simple is as simple be, the identity property of addition. WP:Math not WP:Synth as pics and vids are commonly used as sources these days. The duck may swim on the lake. B137 (talk) 01:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hello - in review of the photo gallery section, it feels like there is an excessive amount of photos in this gallery. sometimes photos from within a day are provided, which is unnecessary in my opinion. suggest selecting key photos that are either 1) especially nice photos or 2) depict construction progress and dropping ones that do not add as much value to the article. Pdubs.94 (talk) 21:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to cull away. There are some photos there that are practically worthless.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added all the photos to commons:Category:Ryugyong Hotel, and agree removal of some from this article makes sense. CMD (talk) 03:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done i trimmed down to 5 photos. Pdubs.94 (talk) 01:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This hotel happens to have the only AS Number in North Korea AS131279^[1]

The AS number belongs to the company Star Joint Venture Co. Ltd., which is located at Ryugyong-dong according to whois data.^[2] --Matthäus Wander (talk) 15:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matthäus Wander (talk) 15:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]