Talk:Renault Sport Series

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Im thinking of creating a templete/infobox for all racing drivers in the World Series of Renault:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_by_Renault

By the way whats the diffrence seems to be a little confussing here certain pages ie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sports_templates has many types of sports listed, however http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_templates#Sports has just cricket listed, am I missing something here?

Anyway the templete would be very similar to the F1 driver which looks like this:

Michael Schumacher

Formula One World Championship career
Nationality	German
Team	Ferrari
Car number	5
Entries	242
Championships	7 (1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
Wins	87
Podiums	149
Pole positions	67
Fastest laps	72
First entry	1991 Belgian Grand Prix
First win	1992 Belgian Grand Prix
2006 position	2nd (69 pts)

Except for the fact that it would say something like World Series of Renault driver, I think the rest is relevant, any thoughts? Davidlightman 09:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)Davidlightman[reply]

Response: This is now included in WP:MOTOR, for which standardised Championship and Driver infoboxes have been created. Please avoid adding any non-standard versions. The article will be reviewed and cleaned up in due course.

I have changed the text in the intro paragraph to remove the reference to the Formula Renault V6 Eurocup. This was an entirely separate series from Nissan Open Fortuna/World Series by Nissan in any of its guises. It ran for just two years, concurrent to the aforementioned Spanish-based series. The later statement that the Eurocup was "merged" into the World Series is questionable and contrary to what was reported at the time. The chassis and engines were sold to Asia, where the series was re-created, and nothing remained of the European original. Naturally, the World Series would use a Renault/Nissan engine, and the existing V6 spec was borrowed. That doesn't constitute a merger. [1] shows 2004 Eurocup champion Giorgio Mondini and [2] shows 2004 Nissan champion Heikki Kovalainen. Adrian M. H. 15:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should have read, at least, an official site before relate to the article.

• Official site in English
  • Created as a result of the merger of the Eurocup Formula Renault V6 and the World Series by Nissan
• Official site in French
  • Née de la fusion de l’Eurocup Formula Renault V6 et de la World Series by Nissan, la World Series Formula Renault 3.5 est le championnat phare des meetings.
• Renault Japon in Japanese. In Japan, there is an important stockholder for Renault and a former organizer of the series, Nissan.
  • ワールドシリーズ・ｂｙ・ルノーは、F1世界選手権とF3選手権の間に位置するカテゴリーで昨年までのフォーミュラルノーV6ユーロカップとワールドシリーズ・ｂｙ・ニッサンが合併して2005年に発足致しました。

In a word, even if you see any country, the opinion of Renault is clear. I think we should esteem event organizer's official stance.

More over, I think the intention of Renault about the relation between FR V6 Eurocup and WSR is clear from fact that the event, World Series by Renault, has succeeded the name of the Eurocup (at "Eurocup Formula Renault 2.0" and "Eurocup Mégane Trophy") and Formula Renault (at "World Series Formula Renault 3.5" and "Eurocup Formula Renault 2.0") from the "Formula Renault V6 Eurocup". These were not added after the beginning of the event.

Therefore, I'm sorry, but I think it is difficult to agree with your edit. --Morio 15:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you rephrase your penultimate paragraph, please? It is not entirely clear and I do not wish to form an opinion of that, or a response to it, without clarification. Initially, I will say that this article appears to contradict how it was assessed in the specialist UK motorsport press at the time of the Eurocup's demise, which was initiated before the rebranding of the World Series. It was desribed as a closure, with the reason given being the preparation for Renault's commitment to GP2. Obviously, Renault was already involved in the World Series, because the European motorsport budgets of Nissan and Renault are necessarily interlinked. At that time, it was clear that the closing of the Eurocup was made on the basis of its lack of success versus its part in Renault's motorsport ladder. It was clearly redundant in the over-saturated European scene, in which Renault was at risk of competing with itself. Then came the rebranding of the World Series. At the time, it was not reported as a merger, but as two separate, but related events. No vestige of the Eurocup remained; its cars and engines were sold en masse to Asia, where they are still used. How does that constitute a merger? It does not; except, perhaps, in the retrospective vision of Renault's PR department. Certainly, the closure was viewed as a failure at the time, given that just two seasons had elapsed. If the concept of a merger can be verified independently (ie, not from Renault's website) then it is valid, though it still contradicts other (print) sources that were released at the time. Lastly, I don't like your inference; my prior online research revealed no independent sources that actually contradicted the view that was formed at the time. Adrian M. H. 15:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has slapped a citation and sources notice on the page, that may mean people's edits are deleted. Being ther3e an seeing the driver win doesn't seem to be enough for wikipedia, they want published material, however this may breach copyright. Daft as this sounds. Does anyone have a thought on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.111.169.120 (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article include Nissan 2.0L series (Open Fortuna by Nissan, Euro Open MoviStar by Nissan, Open Telefónica by Nissan, Telefónica World Series and Superfund World Series) and Renault 3.5L series (Formula Renault V6 Eurocup, World Series by Renault and Formula Asia V6 by Renault). Nissan series and Formula Renault V6 Eurocup have merged to create World Series by Renault in 2005 but distinction between this two categories should be make and probably not in this World Series by Renault article but in Formula Renault with disctinction between 2.0L and 3.5L series. - Rollof1 12:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to me having done some research [3] that the World Series by Renault is the name given to the meetings containing the three series:

• World Series Formula Renault 3.5
• Eurocup Formula Renault 2.0
• Megane Trophy

rather than just the 3.5 series.

I became curious because of the way Autosport.com has begun to refer to it as Formula Renault 3.5 rather than the World Series by Renault in its news articles. - mspete93 16:41, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should we therefore rename this article World Series Formula Renault 3.5? It seems this series is just one of three which collectively makes up the World Series by Renault at the moment. Officially Mr X (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, we could leave the name as it is, we just need to explain this in the lead section, a bit like Macau Grand Prix. I was also wondering about season articles. - mspete93 16:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What does the series call itself? --Falcadore (talk) 22:52, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right mspete, WSbR are the name of the event including several Renault series. WSbR it's commonly used (even by the press) to indicate the main event, accurately : Formula Renault 3.5 or Formula Renault 3.5 Series. A rename of all the related articles and links would be accurate. - Rollof1 (talk) 15:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Something similar to the layout on the V8 Supercar season articles wouldn't go a miss. A brief review of each series, before breaking it down on an article for each series under the WSbR banner. Formula Renault 3.5 Series, Eurocup Formula Renault 2.0, Eurocup Megane Trophy and from next season, F4 Eurocup 1.6. Cs-wolves(talk) 06:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is further highlighted by the fact that Monaco (a FR3.5 round) is not included in the WSR calendar [4][5]. - mspete93 13:25, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have successfully moved the season articles from 2005 to 2010. I have not yet changed the links in the navbox template in case we want WSbR summary articles created at the old page names. I'll change links on team and driver pages when I get a chance. No promises when that will happen though. - mspete93 14:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've had a go at a 2010 page, using Falcadore's structure from the V8 pages. Cs-wolves(talk) 17:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]