[go: up one dir, main page]

Jump to content

Talk:Priam

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sons of Priam

[edit]

I notice that Troilus is not mentioned in the list.

Priam's Matrimony

[edit]

I removed the claims by talk and talk because they were dubious and ambiguous/redundant, respectively.Mimson 21:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to

[edit]

Instead of according to greek mythology shouldn't it say, according to Homer?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.186.254.98 (talk) 11:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bible

[edit]

someone told me that he is mentioned in the bible can anyone confirm or deny this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.100.147.93 (talk) 02:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting Etymologies

[edit]

This article contains two conflicting statements regarding the origin of Priam's name:

"Modern scholars derive his name from the Luwian compound Priimuua, which means "exceptionally courageous".[1]"....AND

"After this, Podarces changed his name to Priam. This is an etymology based on priatos "ransomed"; the actual etymology of the name is probably not Greek, but perhaps Lydian in origin." Which is correct?Lily20 (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prose Edda

[edit]

The prologue to the Prose Edda talks about Thor being a grandson of Priam and going on to found the Scandinavian royal houses. Is there anyone with sufficient knowledge of genealogy who could integrate the Eddic version of Priam's family tree with the Geoffrey of Monmouth-derived one presented here?Nick xylas (talk) 11:25, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Benjamin Britten's opera 'King Priam' ought to be mentioned. Valetude (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Family tree

[edit]

The article needs to better distinguish between material coming from different historical layers of sources. (Where it cites Virgil, for instance, it should distinguish between things probably invented by Virgil and others that he may have borrowed from older literature available to him.) As for the family tree (Template:Trojan race), on the other hand, it is hardly possible to do so without discussing it in its own article. Currently, the tree is completely unsourced but obviously based in parts on comparatively late sources, not only Virgil but even Geoffrey of Monmouth. I would suggest removing it from the article but will paste it in the talk page, below. --Hegvald (talk) 09:02, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Epithet, plural and number

[edit]

1. The article says Podarces is the established epithet of Achilles in the Iliad. I don't understand this. If Podarces is the king's actual name why should it be the epithet of the warrior?

2. When Priam pleads for his son's body to Achilles he actually speaks in the plural so he says "I put my lips to the hands of the man who killed my sons". Achilles did not only slay Hector but many of his brothers.

3. Where in the Iliad in Book XXIV is mentioned that nobody will fight for 9 days and that fighting will resume after 12 days? Note that the days were 11 until the 4 May 2015‎ when somebody with IP 71.90.137.160 changed the number to 9.

ICE77 (talk) 20:03, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]