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Reference 3: "Segundo a Presidência da República, a cantora de nacionalidade portuguesa e canadiana Nelly Furtado será condecorada com a comenda da Ordem do Infante D. Henrique." tranlated: "According to the Presidency of the Republic, the Portuguese and Canadian singer Nelly Furtado will be awarded the Order of Prince Henry." The president of Portugal, who will know, directly states it. Also article is clear that her parents have Portuguese citizenship so she will too as Portugal practices jus sanguinis. Basically the same level of support as having Canadian citizenship via jus soli based on where born. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't state nor mean anything about citizenship at all. All she was granted was a Commander from the Order of Prince Henry — that does not equal Portuguese citizenship. A lot of what you’re saying is merely just hearsay, you’re just assuming. You must find an actual source that directly states she has citizenship in Portugal. I had a discussion regarding this exact issue with another editor and we both agreed she didn’t hold nor could we find any citizenship in Portugal. Pillowdelight (talk) 01:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Portuguese president directly stated it "cantora de nacionalidade portuguesa e canadiana Nelly Furtado" word for word "singer of nationality Portuguese and Canadian Nelly Furtoado". A direct statement of fact by someone who would know. That is a good reference for dual citizenship. Canadians with just Portuguese ancestry but not citizenship are called "luso-canadianas" in that reference which was not used to describe Furtado. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It depends on a country's laws and culture. Legally they are the same thing in both Canada and Portugal. Portuguese nationality law#Terminology "In the Portuguese context, the two terms are normally used interchangeably." Portugal decides who is a citizen/national of that country and the president of the country stated she was a Portuguese national (and thus citizen) in that statement he made about her. We have deprecated using nationality in the infobox because of people not understanding the ethnic nationality, legal nationality and citizenship distinctions WP:INFONAT but legal nationality and citizenship are clearly synonyms in Portuguese law. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Directly and clearly supported by sources. Has a good reference as shown above. What is the problem here? The fact the reference is in Portuguese and not English? That Portugal can't identify its nationals? That the source is dubious? Or the person making the statement of fact isn't reliable? Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What are you talking about.....no mention of citizenship! If this was the caese there would be sources all over. This is a great example of WP:SYNTH "Do not combine material from multiple sources to state or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources." Moxy🍁 06:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is one foreign source with a clear and direct statement of fact. Language translation from a foreign source isn't synthesis. Is there any doubt the translation is wrong? Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Need another source - again .no mention of citizenship!..This reminds me of Buffy Sainte-Marie situation
Canada considers me a “citizen” in quotes. So Canada…[she laughs] Every time I’ve had something like the Governor-General’s Award or Pierre Trudeau invited me to do that command-performance for the Queen, or when I was named an Officer in the Order of Canada, I explained every time that I don’t even have a Canadian passport. And everybody said ‘That’s OK. You’re one of us’.
Nationality indicates the place where a person or his parents are born and Citizenship is legally acquired after fulfilling the eligibilities of becoming a citizen of any country. Do we have any sources that she got citizenship by way of apply for Portuguese nationality status? Moxy🍁 07:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The president of Portugal directly stated in the reference that she has Portuguese nationality. Presumption is he knows the facts and is making a true statement. It was not stated how she got it, just that she has it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:INFONAT we shouldn't use |nationality= in the infobox. |Citizenship= is preferred but in this case isn't important to her notability so inclusion is an editorial choice. Two editors have removed it, I was the only one to object. I will accept the majority decision. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As has been discussed before..... the only source that covers this is Vogue magazine..,.. but the question is are they just regurgitating what we say here? They're not an investigative publication. Moxy🍁 20:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
