Talk:Montecristo

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A fact from Montecristo appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 March 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that the Italian island of Montecristo, although 10.39 km2 (4.01 sq mi) in area, is almost deserted, having only two stable inhabitants? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2012/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Montecristo.

I wold like to propose some sort of disambiguation for this page, since a link from another page discussing Cuban cigars comes to this page. Any takers?

If the wikilink in Cohiba (cigar brand) is linking here instead of Montecristo (cigar brand), you can correct it by "piping" the link to look like this: [[Montecristo (cigar brand)|Montecristo]]. That makes the article text show the word Montecristo, but clicking the link will go to the article about the cigar brand instead of the island. There's already a link to the disambiguation page at the top of this article, so that should be sufficient. Hope that helps. :-) --NormanEinstein 01:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i disagree with the line under the photo of montecristo, because the island is 80km offcoast and being only 4km wide it would inpossible to see it that big unless you maginify your vision.--82.61.21.76 20:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC) p.kowalski@alice.it[reply]

According to an article dated 24th March,2008 published by ANI (Asian News International), Monte Cristo will soon be open to the general public for the first time in many decades.

Here's the link to the article - http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/World/20080324/916043.html

The current version of the Wikipedia article states that "The island is remote and kept by the Italian government as a nature preserve and hunting park, and only accessible by private yacht and permit."

As this is my first post as a Wikipedia member I'm unfamiliar with the whole editing process, so someone who's well versed with it please do make the necessary changes after perusing the above mentioned article.

--Azeb (talk) 07:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My dear, 4 years is a lot of time, especially in Italy. ;-) This was one of the crazy ideas of the previous government, which followed always the same pattern: first launch a mad idea, like opening to tourism an integral nature preserve, then watch the reaction of the public opinion, at the end forget the whole thing. Don't worry, Monte Cristo is still inaccessible and hopefully will so remain also in the future. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 06:11, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Like a lot of people, Wiki seems to dramatize the attempt to reduce murine population of Montecristo Island. "poison" and "bombing" terms remind me a sad chemical war chronicle. It is simply pellet bait with rodenticide wisely diffused over island's climbs and valleys, and not a devastating pollution episode or a wildlife menace.

I expanded the article and proposed it for DYK, and I totally agree with you. I removed twice the story of the rats, only to discover that someone else put it again. At the end I gave up. By the way, what it is written on the media is largely exaggerated or plainly false. The only serious reference is the pdf which i added. Unfortunately, a lot of people thinks that Wikipedia is a gossip site, and fighting against them is like emptying the ocean with a spoon... Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 06:08, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so sure... this 'serious reference' (by involved persons) says Il ratto nero Rattus rattus è presente a Montecristo presumibilmente dall’epoca Romana and I think 'presumibilmente' is interesting - although you cited this is as a fact in your edit summary - but not so much as Un’aumentata incidenza della predazione da parte dei ratti, indotta da un loro probabile aumento numerico conseguente all’incremento numerico della popolazione nidificante di gabbiano reale Larus michahellis avvenuto a partire dagli anni ’70 del XX secolo. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that there might be un loro probabile aumento numerico conseguente all’incremento numerico della popolazione nidificante dei umani. Particularly as there are recent sources for the opening of the island to tourism and the Minister of the Environment herself suggested that the island could be "Sold for Tourism", a source you removed, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:08, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These persons are "involved" in this story as much as Einstein was involved in Relativity. They are scientists which studied the problem and looked for a solution (if you understand Italian, you can find their names in the document). Personally, as source for an encyclopedia article I prefer always a scientific paper to (more or less serious) newspaper articles, which starts always from the paper. About the rats, you can read what is written on the paper about the diffusion of the rats in the Mediterranean islands. About the removal of the other story, I already explained you the reason: it is not actual anymore, it was just one of thousand ballon d'essai of the previous government. If you can find an actual and reliable source (Ministero dell'ambiente, Parco nazionale) which announces the future opening of the island, we can put it back on the article. But writing every gossip (also invented by the journalist, as the story that the rats arrived in the last years by boat) in not encyclopedic, and - above all - not serious. Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 18:06, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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