Talk:Media franchise

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Please add mobile gaming to the Silent Hill template. Orphan and Last Escape are not part of the main plot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.235.160.40 (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just created this article. It could probably use a section on what "canon" means to a fiction media franchise. It could also use some video game examples. It probably needs to be reorganized a bit. I wrote it mainly with film franchises in mind, and when it occured to me that the ...for Dummies books were an example of a media franchise, I just tacked it on. And it's just occured to me that some mention should probably me made of such huge media franchises as Playboy (magazine, books, TV channel, movies, website, video games, merchandise, pinball machine[!]) and Martha Stewart (TV show, magazine, books) should be added. --Tysto 05:03, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, at least in part, and I may add some other bits to it as well. I did already create a redirect from television franchise. FrozenPurpleCube 14:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following quote regarding Playboy magazine doesn't seem to be NPOV

The Playboy franchise began with the pornographic magazine, ...

I question if the word 'pornographic' is correct in describing this magazine. Request discussion leading to Wikipedia:Consensus. Possibly, the combined term softcore porn might be a more accurate term. --TGC55 (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was pointed out to this article on IRC, as someone wanted to translate it into French. Now, I have some idea what a media franchise is, this article isn't that clear, especially for someone who might not be familiar with the concepts. I added this to my to-do list, but I've got another article that's in need of a lot more help. help both but do the french minecraft they need that.Bold textTrue kerfoot I like your writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.232.152.22 (talk) 18:21, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's been in common usage, but a franchise is when you operate a business on behalf of another business, such as owning your own fast food restaurant. When more than one movie comes out based on the same theme, such as Batman or Star Wars, it is a series, not a franchise. A "Star Wars franchise" would be if other people were making their own authorized films using the name, themes, and characters for George Lucas, but not Lucas himself. Individual McDonalds restaurants, or local network television stations, i.e., an ABC affiliate, are a franchise. Unfortunately the media itself has been dumbing down the English language for a while now, and one writer just copies what they hear, even if it is incorrect usage. If people are having a hard time grasping the subject in non English speaking countries, it's because it's not the correct usage of the word.

Franchise: (noun)

"an authorization granted by a government or company to an individual or group enabling them to carry out specified commercial activities, e.g., providing a broadcasting service or acting as an agent for a company's products."

DavidRavenMoon (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nerds don't get to tell the movie industry that they're using a word wrong. A "horse opera" isn't a proper opera either. So what? --Tysto (talk) 01:51, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I very much agree that it's incorrect to call things like "Star Wars" franchises. Some of the things on the list are borderline, like the Bond films, but the majority of them aren't franchises at all.

However, there are film series which are franchises. For instance, a studio or production company made Horror Film I, II and III themselves but after that, they sold the rights to just about anyone who had enough money and basic qualifications to make IV and after. In that case, they really were acting exactly the way McDonalds acts when they let anyone with a certain amount of money open a McDonalds.

So I think this page should have a prominent note explaining that the usage is wrong, but also giving an example of a series which was turned into a franchise, to show how the error came about and the word became applied to any series of films.

hostile17 (talk) 23:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Recently, some parts of the film industry have erroneously begun to use the word "franchise" as a synonym for a film series. However, unless the owners of the copyright to a film series also have trademarked the names of characters and other elements in the films, and are licensing the use of these to others, a film series is not a franchise, as the act of such licensing is what constitutes franchising.^[1][2]" Wow! That's a very POV paragraph. It also ignores the fact that many of the film series that have been called franchises (such as Star Trek, Batman, etc) are licensed adaptations of concepts from outside of film with the entire concept being the "franchise". That is, that the "Batman franchise" consists of the comic books, television shows, toys, trading cards, etc as well as the films. --Khajidha (talk) 15:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's no need to give it a separate page. It's just about how the Japanese companies run media franchise under the Japanese Engrish term. (Perhaps, one may create a new section explaining how the franchises are ran in country-by-country cases?) JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 16:22, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose There is a need to give it a separate page. It is about how Japanese companies invented the concept and successfully exploit it for 50 years now. There are whole books written about it. You are welcome to add a section is you find reliable sources which say that mediamikkusu is nothing special and known under some silly hollywood+siliconvalley buzzword concocted by americans who think they invented all civilization staring from forke and spoone. -M.Altenmann >t 05:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The article's existence is completely justified.--FollowTheSigns (talk) 05:40, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since the title of this page is incorrect ad these entities aren't franchises like KFC are, why don't we incorporate the information from this page into Media Mix instead of the other way around?--143.167.25.73 (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For reference, here is the unedited quote used in § Transmedia franchise, directly from the source as represented in Google Books:

In one of the most celebrated ventures in media convergence, Larry and Andy Wachowski, creators of The Matrix trilogy, produced the game Enter the Matrix simultaneously with the last two films of the trilogy, shooting scenes for the game on the movies' sets with the movies' actors, and releasing the game on May 15, 2003, the same day as The Matrix: Reloaded. Likewise, on September 21, 2004, Lucasfilm jointly released a new DVD box set of the original Star Wars trilogy in 2004 with Star Wars: Battlefront, a combat game in which players could reenact battles from all six Star Wars films. In 2005, Peter Jackson likewise produced his blockbuster film King Kong (2005) in tandem with a successful King Kong game designed by Michael Ancel and published by Ubisoft. In the last several years, numerous licensed videogame adaptations of major summer and holiday blockbusters were released a few days before or a few days after their respective films, including: all three Star Wars films (1999–2005); all five Harry Potter films (2001–2008); all three Spider-Man films (2002–2007); Hulk (2003); The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002); The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003); The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (2005); The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008); Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006); Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007); Transformers (2007); and Ironman (2008). These multimedia franchises have made it more difficult to distinguish the production of films and videogames as separate enterprises.

— Harry Brown, Videogames and Education^[1]

—151.132.206.250 (talk) 19:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[same user as above] The quote as used is missing a word here and there, but is there any real need to quote such a long passage, rather than do something like this? I don’t think there’s anything here that stretches credulity to anywhere near the point that it demands immediate material proof. —96.8.24.95 (talk) 23:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC) edited 00:12, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 07:45, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed that User:FMM-1992 moved this article without warning from "media franchise" to "multimedia franchise" on 11 June 2020, with the following rationale: "More common, accepted, and better term, even its list has uses this term: List of multimedia franchises."

That makes no sense at all because as anyone who is familiar with media franchises is well aware, "media franchise" is by far the more common term. Google Ngram Viewer confirms this. It's not even close. Anyone who regularly reads EW, THR, Variety, Deadline, and TheWrap regularly would already know this. (I scan the headlines in all five at least once per week.)

As a matter of common courtesy, editors need to be wary of the risks of unknown unknowns (as Donald Rumsfeld famously put it) when operating outside of their areas of expertise and to not make unnecessary work for other editors with profoundly incorrect edits and moves.

Any objections before I fix this mess by moving this back to the correct title? --Coolcaesar (talk) 03:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello user:Coolcaesar, thanks for your attention and notifying me. I checked d:Q196600#sitelinks-wikipedia that shows this is the only Latin script article that has "multi" in its title and I realized now that not every media franchise is multimedia, because, a multimedia franchise has installments exist in multiple forms of media, such as book, comic, film, TV series, and video game; but not all media franchises have such outputs, so I have no objection against this move. Thank you and good luck. -- FMM-1992 (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 September 2022 and 15 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Danted313 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Xinyue Hu (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

… on websites like tumblr, Reddit and the self-titled "wiki" site, Fandom.

What does that mean? Is Fandom a non-wiki pretending to be a wiki? —Tamfang (talk) 04:32, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Marilyn Monroe listed in the middle of a collection of fictional characters? (If this were Twitter, I'd say: Wrong answers only.) —Tamfang (talk) 16:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Removed. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:49, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]