Talk:Joe Redner

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This article is pretty much a copy of the Mons Venus article. Any new Info?

What is Joe's ethnicity? Some claim his name is originally Jewish, while others claim he is from Gypsy background of Tampa's long established carnival-circus community.

Joe is German Italian, his mother was from Italy, his father is german, I am not sure which part of Germany. Verifed directly from sources related to Joe Redner. (from his now deceased mother, from his children, and from Joe himself.)206.113.167.2 15:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)LJ[reply]

Joe's mother's name was Agnes Statella. She was Sicilian. His father was indeed German. The name Redner is of Prussian origin and in German literally means "a speaker," in the sense of a spokesman or orator. In modern German slang it can also mean someone who talks too much. Degarth (talk) 13:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I asked Joe if his name was Jewish, he would not answer. 65.32.128.178 (talk) 23:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is said he was disowned by his family, and that he refuses to even consider to allow his granddaughter to ever dance in his clubs, causing many to consider him just a bit hypocritical. - What's good for your daughter is out of the question for his.

Absolutely not true. One of his daughters lives with him to this day. The rest of his family loves him very much. Not a single one of his family has "disowned" him. If his granddaughter wanted to dance for a living he would let her, just not at his club. Thats not hypocritical. Education Education Education, that has always been his mantra, even for the people that work for him!206.113.167.2 15:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)LJ[reply]

His mother had disowned him, long ago. 65.32.128.178 (talk) 23:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing the link to Joeredner.com because it is defunct.

Should there be a link to http://monsvenus.com/, given that Mons Venus redirects here? Kendall-K1 (talk) 03:31, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mons Venus should not redirect here. It seems fixed as of my posting this. If it is broken still, please fix it. This club should still pass WP:NOTIFS in my opinion. Jeff Carr (talk) 10:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the several cases Redner took to the Supreme Court based on free speech issues. They used to be in the article. –Mattisse (Talk)

Does anyone know what they are? There is actually a lot more about this guy then this wikipedia article is covering. It also excludes the excellent documentary that was made about him. He is very noteworthy and might go down in history as a visionary. Jeff Carr (talk) 09:55, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's amusing that the "evidence" used to support the claim that Redner created lap dances is an article from the Council for American-Islamic Relations website. Is there a source that might be more relevant? Newjerseyliz (talk) 16:44, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I recently watched the documentary about him. In my opinion, that claim is ludicrous. I don't know how one would source something that would be NPOV here. I'm afraid my liberal left leaning opinions do not let me comment or change the article here until there is some wikipedia consensus about what intellectual positions are accepted as philosophically indisputable. Jeff Carr (talk) 09:59, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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